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Post by ✯✯✯ on Jul 16, 2014 17:22:17 GMT
omg i am seriously nub with these formulas and tiny details but well my pally is 162 at 46k hp and well it do deals like upto 6k dmg but consume 1k hp and 50mp/skill and with every deduction of hp my dmg goes down and more down... so it depends on ur maxhp%... btw full vit/int build
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Post by MiLiGRiTo on Jul 17, 2014 2:59:08 GMT
omg i am seriously nub with these formulas and tiny details but well my pally is 162 at 46k hp and well it do deals like upto 6k dmg but consume 1k hp and 50mp/skill and with every deduction of hp my dmg goes down and more down... so it depends on ur maxhp%... btw full vit/int build What is your ATK stat? I'm doing reverse math on it and I'm looking at around 1.1k+ (assuming that 6k damage is to 1 mega at full HP)
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Post by MiLiGRiTo on Jul 17, 2014 6:10:13 GMT
omg i am seriously nub with these formulas and tiny details but well my pally is 162 at 46k hp and well it do deals like upto 6k dmg but consume 1k hp and 50mp/skill and with every deduction of hp my dmg goes down and more down... so it depends on ur maxhp%... btw full vit/int build BTW, you lose 2% of your current HP which is the cost for the skill. So it will start at 920HP for 46k, and then decrease as your HP decreases (e.g. 400HP by the time you are 20kHP). People who try to raise their HP to 100k+ will lose 2k+ HP for the skill cost which lowers down as they lose HP. By then it looks like they are doing more damage to themselves than the mobs they are fighting against.
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Post by ✯✯✯ on Jul 21, 2014 10:31:34 GMT
omg i am seriously nub with these formulas and tiny details but well my pally is 162 at 46k hp and well it do deals like upto 6k dmg but consume 1k hp and 50mp/skill and with every deduction of hp my dmg goes down and more down... so it depends on ur maxhp%... btw full vit/int build BTW, you lose 2% of your current HP which is the cost for the skill. So it will start at 920HP for 46k, and then decrease as your HP decreases (e.g. 400HP by the time you are 20kHP). People who try to raise their HP to 100k+ will lose 2k+ HP for the skill cost which lowers down as they lose HP. By then it looks like they are doing more damage to themselves than the mobs they are fighting against. hmm ok my atk stat is 918 and at maxhp with warcry which is 49761 i deal 5133 dmg to single roche and i think more the hp more u'll dmg so in 100k if u r consuming 2k hp u might be dealing double the amount too if i am not wrong..
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Post by MiLiGRiTo on Jul 21, 2014 11:15:31 GMT
BTW, you lose 2% of your current HP which is the cost for the skill. So it will start at for 46k, and then decrease as your HP decreases (e.g. 400HP by the time you are 20kHP). People who try to raise their HP to 100k+ will lose 2k+ HP for the skill cost which lowers down as they lose HP. By then it looks like they are doing more damage to themselves than the mobs they are fighting against. hmm ok my atk stat is 918 and at maxhp with warcry which is 49761 i deal 5133 dmg to single roche and i think more the hp more u'll dmg so in 100k if u r consuming 2k hp u might be dealing double the amount too if i am not wrong.. Per your Info and my proposed formula: 918atk - 330 megaroche def = 588x4= 2352 49761hp x 0.055 =2737 2352 + 2737 =5089 which should be near your dmg, slightly off due to ramdom factor (And did not add the str part since you only have 1 str stat) of course bigger hp means bigger dmg. But bigger atk is also bigger dmg. Im doing 14k at roches at 52k hp because I have high atk. Only the atk part of the formula is affected by elemental bonus like gloria. For this reason I can do 20k dmg vs dark while a 100k hp cannot hit as high.
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Post by ✯✯✯ on Jul 22, 2014 10:41:03 GMT
hmm ok my atk stat is 918 and at maxhp with warcry which is 49761 i deal 5133 dmg to single roche and i think more the hp more u'll dmg so in 100k if u r consuming 2k hp u might be dealing double the amount too if i am not wrong.. Per your Info and my proposed formula: 918atk - 330 megaroche def = 588x4= 2352 49761hp x 0.055 =2737 2352 + 2737 =5089 which should be near your dmg, slightly off due to ramdom factor (And did not add the str part since you only have 1 str stat) of course bigger hp means bigger dmg. But bigger atk is also bigger dmg. Im doing 14k at roches at 52k hp because I have high atk. Only the atk part of the formula is affected by elemental bonus like gloria. For this reason I can do 20k dmg vs dark while a 100k hp cannot hit as high. yeah i prefer more hp then dmg due to my purpose is only in tanking, since i kinda m nub in pally case ur guidance about maxhp possible would be much appreciated i am vit/int with fuma up, idealsol, saltus up abi hp lvl 3, dragonewt and all with maxhp+20%.. still my hp is 47k without warcry and 50k with katz up hp20%... how to go for more hp?
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Post by MiLiGRiTo on Jul 22, 2014 10:59:58 GMT
Per your Info and my proposed formula: 918atk -330 megaroche def = 588x4= 2352 49761hp x 0.055 =2737 2352 + 2737 =5089 which should be near your dmg, slightly off due to ramdom factor (And did not add the str part since you only have 1 str stat) of course bigger hp means bigger dmg. But bigger atk is also bigger dmg. Im doing 14k at roches at 52k hp because I have high atk. Only the atk part of the formula is affected by elemental bonus like gloria. For this reason I can do 20k dmg vs dark while a 100k hp cannot hit as high. yeah i prefer more hp then dmg due to my purpose is only in tanking, since i kinda m nub in pally case ur guidance about maxhp possible would be much appreciated i am vit/int with fuma up, idealsol, saltus up abi hp lvl 3, dragonewt and all with maxhp+20%.. still my hp is 47k without warcry and 50k with katz up hp20%... how to go for more hp? miwi hat grants 20% hp or stier up 15%hp. Orichal hammer weapon gives 10% hp. I dont really have good knowledge with hp gears because I dont use It.
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Post by ✯✯✯ on Jul 22, 2014 11:09:28 GMT
yeah i prefer more hp then dmg due to my purpose is only in tanking, since i kinda m nub in pally case ur guidance about maxhp possible would be much appreciated i am vit/int with fuma up, idealsol, saltus up abi hp lvl 3, dragonewt and all with maxhp+20%.. still my hp is 47k without warcry and 50k with katz up hp20%... how to go for more hp? miwi hat grants 20% hp or stier up 15%hp. Orichal hammer weapon gives 10% hp. I dont really have good knowledge with hp gears because I dont use It. saltus hp+10%, idealsole hp+20%... so yeah maybe i have better atm i wonder how ima gonna reach 70k+
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Post by MiLiGRiTo on Jul 22, 2014 14:41:20 GMT
miwi at irants 20% hp or stier up 15%hp. Orichal hammer weaponigives 10% hp. I dont really have good knowledge with hp gears because I dont use It. saltus hp+10%, idealsole hp+20%... so yeah maybe i have better atm i wonder how ima gonna reach 70k+ Oh. Then the only way Is to be 5slot or gain more levels. Kaise pilz will give 30%hp but It Is not really recommended for tanks. At lvl 220 there Is a buff that boosts hp even further.
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Post by ✯✯✯ on Jul 23, 2014 8:38:25 GMT
saltus hp+10%, idealsole hp+20%... so yeah maybe i have better atm i wonder how ima gonna reach 70k+ Oh. Then the only way Is to be 5slot or gain more levels. Kaise pilz will give 30%hp but It Is not really recommended for tanks. At lvl 220 there Is a buff that boosts hp even further. patience is the key for me then, ty ^^
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Post by Prayerz on Jul 26, 2014 5:44:21 GMT
Hp gear for paladins:
Dragon Roar (20%) Vermillion (20%)
Saltus Upgraded(10%) Chainmail reupgraded (15%?)
Ideasol (20%) Miwi Hat (20%) Stier Up (15%)
Knight Gauntlet (15%)
And you can line them all with HP+20% xtals. So, with a max of 70% hp from gear (I dont knoe if other gears have higher percentages), and lets assume only 3 slots, with 3 20% xtals, you can have up to 130% more hp.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2014 5:47:47 GMT
just 1 question. why is guardian level 2 formula results in guardian level 1 damage?
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Post by MiLiGRiTo on Jul 26, 2014 11:09:48 GMT
just 1 question. why is guardian level 2 formula results in guardian level 1 damage? I dont understand the question. Guardian 1 has 4x atk multiplier and 0.055 hp multiplier. Guardian 2 has 4.2x and 0.08.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2014 11:11:44 GMT
just 1 question. why is guardian level 2 formula results in guardian level 1 damage? I dont understand the question. Guardian 1 has 4x atk multiplier and 0.055 hp multiplier. Guardian 2 has 4.2x and 0.08. check. Formula for Guardian Level 2: (((Current HP) x .02) x .16) + (Base Attack + STR) = G (Value of "G") x 4.2 = X X - (Enemy Defense x 4.2) = Guardian Level 1 Damage
(Value of guardian level 1 damage) x Attribute Value (Depends on element of attack and element of enemy, if any) why is the result highlighted is guardian level 1 if the formula is guardian level 2?
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Post by MiLiGRiTo on Jul 26, 2014 11:35:33 GMT
I dont unerstand the question. Guardian 1 has 4x atk multiplier and 0.055 hp multiplier. Guardian 2 has 4.2x and 0.08. check. Formula for Guardian Level 2: (((Current HP) x .02) x .16) + (Base Attack + STR) = G (Value of "G") x 4.2 = X X - (Enemy Defense x 4.2) = Guardian Level 1 Damage
(Value of guardian level 1 damage) x Attribute Value (Depends on element of attack and element of enemy, if any) why is the result highlighted is guardian level 1 if the formula is guardian level 2? Oh It must be a typo. Anyway I tested the formula to be wrong and also the jp wiki formula which Is why I suggested a revised formula.
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