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Post by ShaDH04 on Aug 7, 2020 18:12:58 GMT
I tested Aldi vs. Ideaus on armor and Aldi won by roughly 1k. I had 416 CRT at the time of testing. It might be the fact that I dont have enough CRT for Ideaus to win but I'd like to know everyone else's results if they have tested it yet.
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Post by °Malice° on Aug 7, 2020 18:56:08 GMT
I think its like raton win over ideaus on add cuz raton have total 20% dmg multiplier (14% c.dmg + 6% atk) while ideaus only have total 15% dmg multiplier if str 250+.
That aldi crysta have like total 22% dmg multiplier (10% atk + 12% c.dmg on armor)
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Post by ∙°Emi°∙ [lurking on forum] on Aug 8, 2020 4:05:18 GMT
I tested Aldi vs. Ideaus on armor and Aldi won by roughly 1k. I had 416 CRT at the time of testing. It might be the fact that I dont have enough CRT for Ideaus to win but I'd like to know everyone else's results if they have tested it yet.
* ATK% is more effective on mobs with higher def compared to CRT dmg%
* The higher the base attack, the more damage ideaus (or ATK%) should do
For both conditions (low/high def) Aldi won by 1-3k issen / dnewt.I think its like raton win over ideaus on add cuz raton have total 20% dmg multiplier (14% c.dmg + 6% atk) while ideaus only have total 15% dmg multiplier if str 250+. That aldi crysta have like total 22% dmg multiplier (10% atk + 12% c.dmg on armor)
Although I'm a completely nub in ninja ;-; I thought I might contribute to the thread as well for those of you who are curious how the damage fares in different conditions |
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Post by °Malice° on Aug 8, 2020 4:58:46 GMT
I tested Aldi vs. Ideaus on armor and Aldi won by roughly 1k. I had 416 CRT at the time of testing. It might be the fact that I dont have enough CRT for Ideaus to win but I'd like to know everyone else's results if they have tested it yet.
* The higher the base attack, the more damage ideaus should do
For both conditions (low/high def) Aldi won by 1-3k issen / dnewt.I think its like raton win over ideaus on add cuz raton have total 20% dmg multiplier (14% c.dmg + 6% atk) while ideaus only have total 15% dmg multiplier if str 250+. That aldi crysta have like total 22% dmg multiplier (10% atk + 12% c.dmg on armor)
Although I'm a completely nub in ninja ;-; I thought I might contribute to the thread as well for those of you who are curious how the damage fares in different conditions if u want to test dmg accurately, use a very low atk weapon like toy glove (1atk) I think the rng in dmg formula from weapon is ((rng from 0~weapon atk -1)/5) With that formula n toy glove, rng in dmg completely removed. |
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Post by Done~with~forums on Aug 8, 2020 9:06:26 GMT
I'm a monk and it dose about the same dmg for me as mr ori
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Post by °Malice° on Aug 14, 2020 2:37:12 GMT
I tested Aldi vs. Ideaus on armor and Aldi won by roughly 1k. I had 416 CRT at the time of testing. It might be the fact that I dont have enough CRT for Ideaus to win but I'd like to know everyone else's results if they have tested it yet. Using my sin been dealing 617-620k on ratagne with ira ideaus. Changed to ira aldi and i able to deal 624-627k. And my crt only 223. For me yeh aldi beat ideaus. U can compare between these 2 crysta by this calculation Atk= 5000 Atk= x1.65 (+50% probably from eq/crysta) + ideaus (+15%) Base c.dmg = x1.5 (+50%) 5000 x 1.65 x 1.5= 12375 Atk= 5000 Atk= x1.6 (+50% probably from eq/crysta) + aldi (+10%) Base c.dmg= x1.62 (+50%) + aldi (+12% cdmg on armor) 5000 x 1.6 x 1.62= 12960 This is just theory and i found it quite accurate. As what i said b4 equality of all dmg multiplier gives best dmg |
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Post by °Malice° on Aug 14, 2020 4:01:16 GMT
I think its like raton win over ideaus on add cuz raton have total 20% dmg multiplier (14% c.dmg + 6% atk) while ideaus only have total 15% dmg multiplier if str 250+. That aldi crysta have like total 22% dmg multiplier (10% atk + 12% c.dmg on armor)
Although I'm a completely nub in ninja ;-; I thought I might contribute to the thread as well for those of you who are curious how the damage fares in different conditionsThe reason y c.dmg% lost to atk% is most of class with CRT stat can have easily got 300% c.dmg. As u know we could never achieve 300% in atk. If we could achieve 300% in atk and c.dmg then add 10% c.dmg/atk, both multiplier will work to give more dmg. Thers no things like "CRT dmg formula is more complicated and will be significantly less in amount of dmg it adds compared to atk%" What is needed is equal/closer ratio of each multiplier or trade off of multiplier such as from 20% atk, 10% c.dmg to 10%atk, 10% c.dmg, 10% melee to elements. Or maybe 10%atk 20% c.dmg to 15%atk 15%c.dmg |
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Post by ♪Sumire on Aug 16, 2020 2:40:47 GMT
with my pf build
aldi wins by 1k ish to bosses that have low to no def
but when i tested on mg ideaus won by 6k
im currently lv389 with build str crt 450 agi 350 dex 265 (sirius hybrid build)
with only 20% element to my set (and 1s gears only)
doc (no pf buff) deals 580k ish on battle luna for ideaus and 581k for aldi
dmg on mg(high def target) 20% element still
ideaus 512k
aldi 506/507k
dmg difference decreases when i use drinks and ignite (at full self buff difference was only 1k in favor of ideaus)
i got quite abit of crt dmg on my setup
2% from al
13% from sirius
8% from griffith or was it 7%
and 10% from breezy
as i am a sirius user the 5% atk lost from aldi actually manage to shave off 300ish atk
im not sure on other builds that doesnt have as high base atk as sirius users
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Post by NightBreeze on Aug 20, 2020 10:11:43 GMT
I think its like raton win over ideaus on add cuz raton have total 20% dmg multiplier (14% c.dmg + 6% atk) while ideaus only have total 15% dmg multiplier if str 250+. That aldi crysta have like total 22% dmg multiplier (10% atk + 12% c.dmg on armor) I think ideaus beats raton. Actually even vida beats raton. It's not correct to compare them by adding both multipliers together, since crt dmg multiplier is less effective than atk multiplier. I like to think that crt dmg is around 2 times or worse than atk. So for example 20% crt dmg would be equal to around 10% atk. So aldi would give around 10% + (12/2)% = 16% atk. I'd say it's pretty accurate, given how in ppl's tests it's about the same or slightly better than ideaus. |
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Post by °Malice° on Aug 20, 2020 14:16:26 GMT
I think its like raton win over ideaus on add cuz raton have total 20% dmg multiplier (14% c.dmg + 6% atk) while ideaus only have total 15% dmg multiplier if str 250+. That aldi crysta have like total 22% dmg multiplier (10% atk + 12% c.dmg on armor) I think ideaus beats raton. Actually even vida beats raton. It's not correct to compare them by adding both multipliers together, since crt dmg multiplier is less effective than atk multiplier. I like to think that crt dmg is around 2 times or worse than atk. So for example 20% crt dmg would be equal to around 10% atk. So aldi would give around 10% + (12/2)% = 16% atk. I'd say it's pretty accurate, given how in ppl's tests it's about the same or slightly better than ideaus. i used to think like that before but not anymore. |
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