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Post by divinelight on Aug 7, 2020 5:20:17 GMT
So with the anniversary event and the new magic crysta is mujie, in your experience which is better for bishop overall mujie or dunk 2?
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Post by Nobody (Retired for now) on Aug 7, 2020 5:24:25 GMT
I would still use Dunkelis II over Mujie, we as Bishop have a very low Spellburst rate.
I think for me Mujie works better for High Wizard, and Enchanter. Because Enchanters can have up to 5 Autoskills, and 10% Spellburst could translate to 10% to every Autoskill.
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Post by divinelight on Aug 7, 2020 5:32:27 GMT
I would still use Dunkelis II over Mujie, we as Bishop have a very low Spellburst rate. I think for me Mujie works better for High Wizard, and Enchanter. Because Enchanters can have up to 5 Autoskills, and 10% Spellburst could translate to 10% to every Autoskill. oh ok i was asking because i saw this video showing that mujie gives more nemesis+holy spike dps on targets that have no magic defense, but i am not sure if its worth sacrificing the magic pierce that dunk 2 gives for the dps mujie gives on targets with no magic defense, and worried that the with less magic pierce we can struggle on mobs or bosses that have high magic defense you see
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Post by Nobody (Retired for now) on Aug 7, 2020 5:36:52 GMT
I would still use Dunkelis II over Mujie, we as Bishop have a very low Spellburst rate. I think for me Mujie works better for High Wizard, and Enchanter. Because Enchanters can have up to 5 Autoskills, and 10% Spellburst could translate to 10% to every Autoskill. oh ok i was asking because i saw this video showing that mujie gives more nemesis+holy spike dps on targets that have no magic defense, but i am not sure if its worth sacrificing the magic pierce that dunk 2 gives for the dps mujie gives on targets with no magic defense, and worried that the with less magic pierce we can struggle on bosses that have high magic defense you see I see. But, most enemies have defense. And we, as Bishops have pretty low DPS compared to other classes, and we are supposed to be Healers. Dunkelis II would help us to do our job better, and would give us a more stable DPS.
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Post by Nobody (Retired for now) on Aug 7, 2020 5:38:31 GMT
Other point, that 20% hate rise.
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Post by divinelight on Aug 7, 2020 5:43:50 GMT
oh ok i was asking because i saw this video showing that mujie gives more nemesis+holy spike dps on targets that have no magic defense, but i am not sure if its worth sacrificing the magic pierce that dunk 2 gives for the dps mujie gives on targets with no magic defense, and worried that the with less magic pierce we can struggle on bosses that have high magic defense you see I see. But, most enemies have defense. And we, as Bishops have pretty low DPS compared to other classes, and we are supposed to be Healers. Dunkelis II would help us to do our job better, and would give us a more stable DPS. yes you are right dunk 2 is still the overall best add crysta for bishop like ourselves, because the magic pierce is necessary for us to deal with targets that have high magic defense, and the hate rise can pose trouble with the tank because they need to hold aggro and mujie will take aggro and make boss target us and be potentially lethal for us as healers
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mcserg
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Post by mcserg on Aug 7, 2020 9:52:15 GMT
Yall make sound like yall are using damage set in party, i myself find it rare to use damage set when farming bosses if im in a party and i'll be using mujie since it'll be better for grinding
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Post by Undyne on Aug 7, 2020 14:44:36 GMT
Mujie would far surpass Dunk II in terms of damage. Spellburst is +10% chance to do a flat 50% more dmg. With a low damage spell, Magic pierce has very little effect to begin with. There's a reason you see Nocros being used much more than Angel Ring or Faw.
Mujie imo makes spellburst builds viable on every mage now. 20% Spellburst from any 2s of your choice, plus Struggler and Full abis. Thats 45% without sacrificing Als, normal xtals, Magic%, and barely any Matk%.
This is just talking in terms of damage ofc, if you want to do pts the Hate may turn you off from it. But you need to ask yourself, does 3% Matk really affect the already ridiculous heal bishop has enough to pick it over such a dps upgrade?
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Post by Nobody (Retired for now) on Aug 7, 2020 17:56:28 GMT
That is true, 2s would completely change the perspective. But getting any decent 2s gear (Without coins) is completely exhausting.
And my prefference on Dunkelis II is kind of, personal. Aiming for support on a PT specifically as Bishop.
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Post by °Malice° on Aug 7, 2020 18:58:42 GMT
Yall make sound like yall are using damage set in party, i myself find it rare to use damage set when farming bosses if im in a party and i'll be using mujie since it'll be better for grinding *use full drop set in boss pt farm and survive*
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Post by mcserg on Aug 7, 2020 19:29:15 GMT
Yall make sound like yall are using damage set in party, i myself find it rare to use damage set when farming bosses if im in a party and i'll be using mujie since it'll be better for grinding *use full drop set in boss pt farm and survive* Yall must have some trash party then i haven't seen a parties, imagine having to kill a boss in 5mins
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Post by Nobody (Retired for now) on Aug 8, 2020 5:35:41 GMT
*use full drop set in boss pt farm and survive* Yall must have some trash party then i haven't seen a parties, imagine having to kill a boss in 5mins I normally won't PT anybody anyways, unless I'm extremely bored. But yes, I do as much as possible for making things faster even when I solo. If I want X item normally I would farm something I can kill efficiently alone, and then sell its stuff for then buy my X thing.
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Post by mcserg on Aug 8, 2020 11:46:43 GMT
Yall must have some trash party then i haven't seen a parties, imagine having to kill a boss in 5mins I normally won't PT anybody anyways, unless I'm extremely bored. But yes, I do as much as possible for making things faster even when I solo. If I want X item normally I would farm something I can kill efficiently alone, and then sell its stuff for then buy my X thing. Then why would hate raise matter if you're doing solo? Would gain a lot more dps by sb just slap in some abis and you'll easily have +30%
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Post by Nobody (Retired for now) on Aug 8, 2020 12:23:37 GMT
I normally won't PT anybody anyways, unless I'm extremely bored. But yes, I do as much as possible for making things faster even when I solo. If I want X item normally I would farm something I can kill efficiently alone, and then sell its stuff for then buy my X thing. Then why would hate raise matter if you're doing solo? Would gain a lot more dps by sb just slap in some abis and you'll easily have +30% Because I'm not talking about myself since the beggining, I was giving my opinion to Divinelight. Otherwise, I would not have any kind of interest.
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Post by divinelight on Aug 9, 2020 4:41:34 GMT
thank you everyone i replaced dunk 2 with mujie, and it definitely do higher dps and the magic pierce drop was negligible just like undyne said, thank you for sharing your experience and insight everyone
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