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Post by NightBreeze on Feb 24, 2020 14:19:23 GMT
Hmm technically they're both magic ninjas, but it seems some people might misunderstand. wafu are you satisfied if I call the int-dex-vit-crt build "hybrid ninja" and the int-dex-vit-agi build "magic ninja"?
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Post by wafu on Feb 24, 2020 15:11:52 GMT
actually i dnt care abt the build my point is a ninja that uses sk is cant be called as a magic ninja cuz the skill itself is physical even tho matk is a huge factor on dmg than atk it doesnt change the fact that its not magic skill Well I think what you're saying makes no sense. You're saying that if a hw uses head crush a few times, it can't be called a magic hw. A ninja that uses SK one moment, can use jutsus the next moment. It's the same build, and it was designed that jutsus are to be used for dps, and sk for tanking (sk has high hate rise). The pure magic build with agi instead of crt is something made up by the players that didn't even exist before the balance, please don't try saying that it's somehow more "magical" than the normal magic ninja build that can use sk too. or maybe ur the one who doesnt make sense at all cuz u dnt even know if the person who asking is refering to sk cuz for me i will not even categorize sk as magical as what u said and sk build with agi? srsly afaik the stat u nid for sk is mainly int,crt,dex and will just put rest on gbl if they want some evasion
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Post by wafu on Feb 24, 2020 15:15:48 GMT
Hmm technically they're both magic ninjas, but it seems some people might misunderstand. wafu are you satisfied if I call the int-dex-vit-crt build "hybrid ninja" and the int-dex-vit-agi build "magic ninja"? as i said i dnt care abt the build but u cant call an sk user a magic ninja, sk is still in a physical category and not a magic ninja lol
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Post by NightBreeze on Feb 24, 2020 15:53:57 GMT
Hmm technically they're both magic ninjas, but it seems some people might misunderstand. wafu are you satisfied if I call the int-dex-vit-crt build "hybrid ninja" and the int-dex-vit-agi build "magic ninja"? as i said i dnt care abt the build but u cant call an sk user a magic ninja, sk is still in a physical category and not a magic ninja lol Umm you do realize that a sk user can also do everything a non-crt magic ninja can, right? That means sk user = magic ninja + ability to use sk. So a kind of a hybrid. I asked you a question in hope of resolving this dispute, please answer it.
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♪Sumire
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Post by ♪Sumire on Feb 24, 2020 16:53:08 GMT
int dex crt vit (true ninja) why true ninja u asked?
int dex vit (works for rod jutsu users..which also works for throw jutsu users)
crt mainly for sk/domi/doc
basically this is the all in one build
u really dont need to use agi if u want eva just a full green apos +100 gr and a shlek is enough for u to hit at least 1k (with makibishi and if ur lvl is high enough)(ull lose a few matk but the dmg should still be high enough)
thats the beauty of a class that works both ways and with any type of weap (except sp sword)
its up to the player if how he wants to build his m.nin i tried both high eva builds agi and non agi type the only difference was that i have to turn my auto atk off xD)
both build works . . and i liked the no agi one since i could dump more vit that works well for the resist set when ur against a stun loving and buff wipe boss also for blinders) high agi gives me more chance to evade but with lowered hp some boss can do enough dmg at unexpected moments to kill)
the only problem i have with high vit ..is burn
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Post by wafu on Feb 24, 2020 17:13:52 GMT
as i said i dnt care abt the build but u cant call an sk user a magic ninja, sk is still in a physical category and not a magic ninja lol Umm you do realize that a sk user can also do everything a non-crt magic ninja can, right? That means sk user = magic ninja + ability to use sk. So a kind of a hybrid. I asked you a question in hope of resolving this dispute, please answer it. welp im just here to educate so u can learn how to differentiate if u insist that sk is "magic" then.. okay lol
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Post by NightBreeze on Feb 24, 2020 19:31:13 GMT
Umm you do realize that a sk user can also do everything a non-crt magic ninja can, right? That means sk user = magic ninja + ability to use sk. So a kind of a hybrid. I asked you a question in hope of resolving this dispute, please answer it. welp im just here to educate so u can learn how to differentiate if u insist that sk is "magic" then.. okay lol I don't understand what your issue is. SK is a physical skill used by magic ninjas. Where did I say sk is "magic"? I told you that SK is a physical skill. But the ninjas who use it are magic ninjas, because they can use jutsus as well. Or if you prefer, hybrid ninjas. You still haven't answered my question, so idk if you're ok with the term "hybrid ninja".
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Post by wafu on Feb 24, 2020 19:40:22 GMT
welp im just here to educate so u can learn how to differentiate if u insist that sk is "magic" then.. okay lol I don't understand what your issue is. SK is a physical skill used by magic ninjas. Where did I say sk is "magic"? I told you that SK is a physical skill. But the ninjas who use it are magic ninjas, because they can use jutsus as well. Or if you prefer, hybrid ninjas. You still haven't answered my question, so idk if you're ok with the term "hybrid ninja". if you're a magic ninja urself and u use sk then okay if u insist that sk is a magic ninja then okay lol
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Post by virus on Nov 26, 2020 2:59:52 GMT
I want to know why magic ninja rise AGI till max ? Before the balance update, the common magic ninja build used to be INT DEX CRT. After the balance, people were disappointed with the SK nerf and many ditched CRT altogether and switched to a pure jutsu-using magic build, putting the points in AGI instead, with the intent of losing fewer clones by increasing evasion. In fact, SK dmg can still be decent, but the skill formula changed so it depends more on MATK instead of MATK & CRT DMG like before the balance. The new 340 skills seem to have given the jutsus an edge, however. So the majority of people don't care about SK anymore. So we know that ninja needs INT and DEX. Then around 100-140 VIT for struggler (depends on your char level). And after that we have points to cap another stat - CRT (if you want to still be able to use SK, and DoC for mob kills) or AGI (for more evasion and better survival and using only jutsus). Years ago I stopped playing iruna, I came back this month to play I have a ninja account I want to be a magic ninja, I have the stats int, dex, crt what equipment, apostolia and other things do you recommend me to do. I remind you that for the time I do not know much about the updates and other things added, I thank you for the information
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Post by virus on Nov 26, 2020 3:01:03 GMT
int dex crt vit (true ninja) why true ninja u asked? int dex vit (works for rod jutsu users..which also works for throw jutsu users) crt mainly for sk/domi/doc basically this is the all in one build u really dont need to use agi if u want eva just a full green apos +100 gr and a shlek is enough for u to hit at least 1k (with makibishi and if ur lvl is high enough)(ull lose a few matk but the dmg should still be high enough) thats the beauty of a class that works both ways and with any type of weap (except sp sword) its up to the player if how he wants to build his m.nin i tried both high eva builds agi and non agi type the only difference was that i have to turn my auto atk off xD) both build works . . and i liked the no agi one since i could dump more vit that works well for the resist set when ur against a stun loving and buff wipe boss also for blinders) high agi gives me more chance to evade but with lowered hp some boss can do enough dmg at unexpected moments to kill) the only problem i have with high vit ..is burn Years ago I stopped playing iruna, I returned this month to play I have a ninja account I want to be a magic ninja, I have the stats int, dex, crt what equipment, apostolia and other things they recommend me to do. I remind you that for the time I do not know much about the updates and other things added, I thank you for the information
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Post by Dragsbro on Nov 26, 2020 12:48:39 GMT
int dex crt vit int dex vit (works for rod jutsu users..which also works for throw jutsu users) crt mainly for sk/domi/doc basically this is the all in one build thats the beauty of a class that works both ways and with any type of weap its up to the player if how he wants to build his m.nin both build works . Years ago I stopped playing iruna, I returned this month to play I have a ninja account I want to be a magic ninja, I have the stats int, dex, crt what equipment, apostolia and other things they recommend me to do. I remind you that for the time I do not know much about the updates and other things added, I thank you for the information Hello, I don't know when you stopped playing, but if your stats were INT DEX CRT i assume you were there around the times of Silent Killing There have been many changes, notably 1) you can only have 3 clones at max 2) you have 2 new buffs, 1 is for melee/survival mode, the other is for magic mode 3) clones now drain MPs so you have to cancel it out with either Desperate move or Domination (you only need to do it once per login if you use certain items) SK itself got nerfed rather hard, hence why a bunch of people went full magic mode Basically, with an Hybrid build, You'd want to go for INT DEX CRT VIT (or STR if you want to ditch survival for more DoC power, but not really recommended) You might want to use either some all-in-one equipment (for example Uroboros, Ultimi, Spin shield and special eqp from MQ with 2 Ideaus) for low budget, or a variety of eqps to try to max out your different skills with different sets (Elemental throws, ira/ultimi, monty beret, MQ spec w/2 ideaus + Magic weapon such as universe, stroz rod or butterfly fan, struggler, sage hat, same MQ spec w/2 ideaus or 2 agira if you got 2 specs) (Theres a stickied thread for magic/hybrid ninjas in this section, with a list of eqp you can check out if you want)
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Post by virus on Nov 28, 2020 4:07:04 GMT
Years ago I stopped playing iruna, I returned this month to play I have a ninja account I want to be a magic ninja, I have the stats int, dex, crt what equipment, apostolia and other things they recommend me to do. I remind you that for the time I do not know much about the updates and other things added, I thank you for the information Hello, I don't know when you stopped playing, but if your stats were INT DEX CRT i assume you were there around the times of Silent Killing There have been many changes, notably 1) you can only have 3 clones at max 2) you have 2 new buffs, 1 is for melee/survival mode, the other is for magic mode 3) clones now drain MPs so you have to cancel it out with either Desperate move or Domination (you only need to do it once per login if you use certain items) SK itself got nerfed rather hard, hence why a bunch of people went full magic mode Basically, with an Hybrid build, You'd want to go for INT DEX CRT VIT (or STR if you want to ditch survival for more DoC power, but not really recommended) You might want to use either some all-in-one equipment (for example Uroboros, Ultimi, Spin shield and special eqp from MQ with 2 Ideaus) for low budget, or a variety of eqps to try to max out your different skills with different sets (Elemental throws, ira/ultimi, monty beret, MQ spec w/2 ideaus + Magic weapon such as universe, stroz rod or butterfly fan, struggler, sage hat, same MQ spec w/2 ideaus or 2 agira if you got 2 specs) (Theres a stickied thread for magic/hybrid ninjas in this section, with a list of eqp you can check out if you want) Could you tell me where is the thread about magic / hybrid ninja, I'm very interested in returning to the game and I'm a bit lost about the equipment and apostolia that benefit me, I would appreciate it
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