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Post by stuntman on Feb 22, 2020 12:05:46 GMT
I want to know why magic ninja rise AGI till max ?
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Post by doubled on Feb 22, 2020 12:20:20 GMT
Hicolon crysta user(Matk up by agi)
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♪Sumire
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Post by ♪Sumire on Feb 22, 2020 13:01:28 GMT
its not really a requirement
u can still use a no agi build
ppl use agi for various reasons
1. eva
2. magic amp
3. hicolon
4.because thats what they see on youtube
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Niu
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Post by Niu on Feb 22, 2020 13:02:58 GMT
Max eva is good for losing less clones. At some point it's a choice between more vit or agi for survivability or dex for spellboost, matk from Hicolon is just an extra perk from agi, you can still use Agira instead.
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Post by NightBreeze on Feb 22, 2020 21:27:40 GMT
I want to know why magic ninja rise AGI till max ? Before the balance update, the common magic ninja build used to be INT DEX CRT. After the balance, people were disappointed with the SK nerf and many ditched CRT altogether and switched to a pure jutsu-using magic build, putting the points in AGI instead, with the intent of losing fewer clones by increasing evasion. In fact, SK dmg can still be decent, but the skill formula changed so it depends more on MATK instead of MATK & CRT DMG like before the balance. The new 340 skills seem to have given the jutsus an edge, however. So the majority of people don't care about SK anymore. So we know that ninja needs INT and DEX. Then around 100-140 VIT for struggler (depends on your char level). And after that we have points to cap another stat - CRT (if you want to still be able to use SK, and DoC for mob kills) or AGI (for more evasion and better survival and using only jutsus). |
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Post by wafu on Feb 23, 2020 2:50:10 GMT
sk is not a magic ninja tho
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Post by NightBreeze on Feb 23, 2020 19:39:57 GMT
sk is not a magic ninja tho I don't think so, what do you mean? There are 2 types of ninja: physical and magical. The physical type focuses on ATK. The magical one focuses on MATK. SK depends on MATK, so it's a magic ninja skill. The type of magic ninja who puts AGI instead of CRT is a kind of deviation from the normal magic ninja, because that makes some skills unusable, so I'd call it "pure/strictly magic ninja", if that's what you were thinking of. |
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Post by wafu on Feb 24, 2020 0:19:30 GMT
sk is not a magic ninja tho I don't think so, what do you mean? There are 2 types of ninja: physical and magical. The physical type focuses on ATK. The magical one focuses on MATK. SK depends on MATK, so it's a magic ninja skill. The type of magic ninja who puts AGI instead of CRT is a kind of deviation from the normal magic ninja, because that makes some skills unusable, so I'd call it "pure/strictly magic ninja", if that's what you were thinking of. if the skill can crit its a physical, if the skill can spell burst its a magical sk affects by matk but it doesnt mean its magical |
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Post by NightBreeze on Feb 24, 2020 1:31:24 GMT
I don't think so, what do you mean? There are 2 types of ninja: physical and magical. The physical type focuses on ATK. The magical one focuses on MATK. SK depends on MATK, so it's a magic ninja skill. The type of magic ninja who puts AGI instead of CRT is a kind of deviation from the normal magic ninja, because that makes some skills unusable, so I'd call it "pure/strictly magic ninja", if that's what you were thinking of. if the skill can crit its a physical, if the skill can spell burst its a magical sk affects by matk but it doesnt mean its magical It's about which build can use it. Physical build cannot use SK. Magical build can use it. Pure magical build cannot use it. |
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Post by wafu on Feb 24, 2020 2:04:49 GMT
if the skill can crit its a physical, if the skill can spell burst its a magical sk affects by matk but it doesnt mean its magical It's about which build can use it. Physical build cannot use SK. Magical build can use it. Pure magical build cannot use it. if the skill is affected by melee to element its a physical, if the skill is affected by magic+% its a magical a "magic" skill that doesn't affected by magic+% is not a magical skill |
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Post by NightBreeze on Feb 24, 2020 2:23:42 GMT
It's about which build can use it. Physical build cannot use SK. Magical build can use it. Pure magical build cannot use it. if the skill is affected by melee to element its a physical, if the skill is affected by magic+% its a magical a "magic" skill that doesn't affected by magic+% is not a magical skill Again, it's about the build. Even if it's a physical skill, it's affected by MATK. And the ninja build which uses MATK is magical ninja. You said SK is not magic ninja. That's incorrect, because this skill can be used only by magic ninjas. |
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Post by wafu on Feb 24, 2020 10:42:14 GMT
if the skill is affected by melee to element its a physical, if the skill is affected by magic+% its a magical a "magic" skill that doesn't affected by magic+% is not a magical skill Again, it's about the build. Even if it's a physical skill, it's affected by MATK. And the ninja build which uses MATK is magical ninja. You said SK is not magic ninja. That's incorrect, because this skill can be used only by magic ninjas. it depends on you on what "magical" means to you before update sk depends on c.dmg than matk and you can try attack build for you to be sure that sk can only be used by "magic ninja" |
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Post by NightBreeze on Feb 24, 2020 11:03:19 GMT
Again, it's about the build. Even if it's a physical skill, it's affected by MATK. And the ninja build which uses MATK is magical ninja. You said SK is not magic ninja. That's incorrect, because this skill can be used only by magic ninjas. it depends on you on what "magical" means to you before update sk depends on c.dmg than matk and you can try attack build for you to be sure that sk can only be used by "magic ninja" Yes, SK dmg sucks if used by AGI CRT ninja. I'm sure it depends on MATK. Anyway, from what I understand you call the magic build with CRT "sk build" and the magic build with AGI "magic build". In truth, they both can use jutsus equally well. So I think it's normal to call them both magic build. |
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Post by wafu on Feb 24, 2020 11:19:29 GMT
it depends on you on what "magical" means to you before update sk depends on c.dmg than matk and you can try attack build for you to be sure that sk can only be used by "magic ninja" Yes, SK dmg sucks if used by AGI CRT ninja. I'm sure it depends on MATK. Anyway, from what I understand you call the magic build with CRT "sk build" and the magic build with AGI "magic build". In truth, they both can use jutsus equally well. So I think it's normal to call them both magic build. actually i dnt care abt the build my point is a ninja that uses sk is cant be called as a magic ninja cuz the skill itself is physical even tho matk is a huge factor on dmg than atk it doesnt change the fact that its not magic skill |
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Post by NightBreeze on Feb 24, 2020 13:11:51 GMT
Yes, SK dmg sucks if used by AGI CRT ninja. I'm sure it depends on MATK. Anyway, from what I understand you call the magic build with CRT "sk build" and the magic build with AGI "magic build". In truth, they both can use jutsus equally well. So I think it's normal to call them both magic build. actually i dnt care abt the build my point is a ninja that uses sk is cant be called as a magic ninja cuz the skill itself is physical even tho matk is a huge factor on dmg than atk it doesnt change the fact that its not magic skill Well I think what you're saying makes no sense. You're saying that if a hw uses head crush a few times, it can't be called a magic hw. A ninja that uses SK one moment, can use jutsus the next moment. It's the same build, and it was designed that jutsus are to be used for dps, and sk for tanking (sk has high hate rise). The pure magic build with agi instead of crt is something made up by the players that didn't even exist before the balance, please don't try saying that it's somehow more "magical" than the normal magic ninja build that can use sk too. |
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