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Post by Loftyz47 on Oct 26, 2019 13:14:03 GMT
Wow. Nice answer. Lighten my curiosity alot tyvm. Oh 1more thing lol. Below quoted from t 3rd answer " In a recipe that normally makes x1, but can great success x2 or x3, making a x3 is extremely unlikely, but having a higher level than the recipe will also greatly increase the great success raTe. with a high enough rate, u will be doing all x3 " Whats t value difference between prod lvl than recipe lvl that started to gv x3 item quite reliably kinda >80%or90% (if base is x1 item) ? maybe these videos can be some kind of reference. www.youtube.com/watch?v=IdKN1xTpZxc+75 levels above recipe = 2.2x on average (destroying an average of 4 sets. if 0 destroyed, 2.3x on average) www.youtube.com/watch?v=q9W1B0XW080+100 levels above recipe = 2.45x on average (destroying an average of 7 sets. if 0 destroyed, 2.6x on average) So I guess, if you were +125 levels above the recipe, you'd be x3 great successing most of the time. At this point, you could start replacing some melee to neutral gear for other melee to element gear that will boost your success rate. Ideally; with AI, consumable boosts, and (most importantly) production relics, you wouldn't be failing much at all. I didn't have most of these in the videos. when you're above +150 levels, anything other than x3 great success is either impossible, or extremely hard on an asymptote approaching impossible. This can be problematic, if u wanted to make Chocolate [mat for Mokkaparat] (great success makes handmade choco instead) Black/Blue/Green/Red/White/Yellow Gem [mat for beads & skill quests] via "x2 great success of ____ Raw Stone" (x1 success is rock. x2 great success is the Gem. x3 great success is a different item) Masamune [mat for Shinuchi variants](great success makes Muramasa instead, which is useless From my old testing, I found that my Alchemist was incapable of making Gems (185 levels above recipe), and incapable of making Chocolate (140 levels above recipe), probably because it's a x2 great success (the recipe has no "x3 great success") As for Masamune, I had to train 96 smithing on an alt. And I've never made a Muramasa on that character. Also, I don't actually know if melee to neutral affects the great success rate, but it's widely believed that it does. I'm pretty sure that it does. |
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Post by Loftyz47 on Nov 20, 2019 17:10:27 GMT
common relics updated
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Post by doubled on Feb 20, 2020 12:16:32 GMT
The mistia sword hav melee 30% to dark
Might wanna add that
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Post by Loftyz47 on Feb 21, 2020 23:33:02 GMT
The mistia sword hav melee 30% to dark Might wanna add that has that been confirmed anywhere? if so, i'll add. |
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Post by doubled on Feb 22, 2020 1:23:36 GMT
The mistia sword hav melee 30% to dark Might wanna add that has that been confirmed anywhere? if so, i'll add. It says here www.iruna-online.info/item/mistiaMelee to Dark +30% Dark R +20% MaxHP +20% ATK +7% Magic R +15% Rate cut +5% Absolute Evasion -10% Magic Evasion -10% also damage test mistia won against melee +25% to dark excalibur+(This is with exca having atk+10% and mistia only +7%) |
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Post by doubled on Feb 23, 2020 17:05:55 GMT
also little correction , lava guard 2s with 2 sakimoris should be +6.8 succes chance not 6.4
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Post by friedchoco on Mar 18, 2020 12:24:00 GMT
i have a dumb question..
does ft also increase success rate?
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Post by sumails on Mar 20, 2020 7:00:34 GMT
are ther no sets for cooking or u wont need it?
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Post by °Malice° on Mar 20, 2020 7:37:55 GMT
are ther no sets for cooking or u wont need it? food for life I think melee to neutral gives a portion of great success rate on all prod. From the spoiler above, thers no set for melee to water. So i guess melee to water (wind element weapons) is for cooking. |
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Post by Loftyz47 on Mar 23, 2020 8:33:12 GMT
i didnt bother with cooking success set, cause it's trained entirely by failset.
If you wanted a success set, i guess it would be something like..
Trishula II ♢Sturm
Trash ♢Sturm
Failwind ♢Celawinos
Spec ♢Spool Secret Production Book
▲ Storm of Doom, Dym, Spikeleon, Meelis, Sauro II
Storm Breath, ele drink
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Post by dritz on May 2, 2020 13:28:55 GMT
Hello im thinking to change my char to alche, still newbie =) . Str/vit/agi/dex is my build. Can i be alchemist without an INT stats? .thanks for the answer. =)
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Post by :\ on May 2, 2020 13:32:43 GMT
Hello im thinking to change my char to alche, still newbie =) . Str/vit/agi/dex is my build. Can i be alchemist without an INT stats? .thanks for the answer. =) theres an alchemist section for this question xd |
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Post by Loftyz47 on May 14, 2020 3:05:48 GMT
Updated.
Make sure to get Dark Helm (up), Silver Mail (up), and any Tower xtals you need.
New additions since last update
Fleurselman (up)
Melee to Wind+38%
Failwind (up)
Melee to Wind+17%
Burning Clapper (consumable)
Melee to Fire+10%, Melee to Dark+10%
may have the same buff name as Flint
For relics, Hortes has the first uncommon+fragment combination that gives Melee+1% AND Magic+1%.
This basically obsoletes every other boss for the purpose of relic farming.
As always, great game design from Asobimo.
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Post by godofafro on May 14, 2020 4:11:26 GMT
For relics, Hortes has the first uncommon+fragment combination that gives Melee+1% AND Magic+1%. This basically obsoletes every other boss for the purpose of relic farming. I think this affects only jobs like summoners or servants...maybe enchanters too |
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