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Post by Legacy on Oct 13, 2018 9:15:42 GMT
Okay so here is a video of someone who went crit str dex for max damage and honestly... I am not too impressed
youtu.be/9wee5XvZyL0
Keep in mind this person is level 370 with all 2s gear hitting a steady 35k ea pet so about 105k but I am seeing some 51ks in their but it's mostly white dmg idk why with the amount of crit he he has
Now here's another video of someone who seemed to also have went crit and is hitting 65k-81k crit damage
youtu.be/6yFSfDAjRaI
Its constant enough leading me to believe that she is also relying on crit o.o on that note when she does crit with a beast she's one hitting so the rest of the beasts don't get a chance to get their hits in not letting me get a better look at how constant it is
But crit seems to have an important role in dmg but with over 400 crit doesn't look as constant as it should and I'm curious as to why .-. maybe it only affect baby wolf is what I'm thinking
With that being said let's bring crit into the conversation o.o// or just debunk my whole theroy and I'll go on with my day u.u lol
I'm just looking for confirmation that crit affects.
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♪Sumire
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Summoner new skills pls *-*
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Post by ♪Sumire on Oct 13, 2018 10:35:07 GMT
from what I can see .. the person on the 2nd link is auto attacking (double attack animation .. so the dmg is probably hers not the summons.. summoned skill doesn't crt but the magic skills can spellburst
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♪Sumire
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Summoner new skills pls *-*
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Post by ♪Sumire on Oct 13, 2018 10:38:13 GMT
some of my summoner friends also choose to auto attack together with their summons (physical and magic autos)
which is also a good idea if u want a consistent mp recovery (using amaterasu masusume which grants mp recovery by atk)
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Post by Legacy on Oct 13, 2018 14:07:47 GMT
from what I can see .. the person on the 2nd link is auto attacking (double attack animation .. so the dmg is probably hers not the summons.. summoned skill doesn't crt but the magic skills can spellburst yeah I kept an eye on that but the auto atk was like 8k 16k double atk
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♪Sumire
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Summoner new skills pls *-*
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Post by ♪Sumire on Oct 13, 2018 15:32:55 GMT
Watched the vid again And it seems only command attack is critting .discussed with some of my friends and they said their command match isn't critting even with tech abis ..so that's probably due to hide attack
The video doesn't show her gears/stats/Al nor extra skills
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Post by Legacy on Oct 13, 2018 17:37:15 GMT
Watched the vid again And it seems only command attack is critting .discussed with some of my friends and they said their command match isn't critting even with tech abis ..so that's probably due to hide attack The video doesn't show her gears/stats/Al nor extra skills hmm that makes sense does command atk show all three atks mashed together?
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Post by Undyne on Oct 13, 2018 18:02:28 GMT
Well, I have seen Match Crt with no crt or hide, so I believe it can. But in comparison to having your baby wolves all use Skill 3, I'd say it's frankly not worth spamming it. I have seen at Least 1 summoner (somewhat low lv at that) get their ice spear to 35k. three of those is almost as high as I managed to get match to on the test server with all 2s gear (140k.)
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Post by lahunts on Oct 14, 2018 15:19:45 GMT
OK I did some number crunching....
I'm not high enough level yet to test myself but I used what I could find.
It appears that comand:match lv1: - uses 33% of your crt dmg - crits based on your crt rate - all three summons hit at once giving you only one big number - you using match does not conflict with the summons normal attack pattern; therefore its just extra damage - I don't have spell burst, but from what I read it can spell burst based on your spell burst rate. - hide attack does work
I'm thinking crt may not be a bad idea, but mostly for the crt rate. Someone said tech abi didn't work so maybe it's a bug or abis don't count toward command:March's crt rate which is sad.
Looking forward to more opinions!
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Post by Legacy on Oct 14, 2018 20:56:55 GMT
Yeah from what I'm hearing I don't think the loss in survivability is worth it
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Post by Shady_Shiroe on Oct 17, 2018 23:56:07 GMT
I could be that the summons are only affected by stats and maybe even apostila
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Post by lahunts on Oct 18, 2018 3:13:53 GMT
Pretty sure with 1 crt changing from my atk/matk set to a crt and crt rate set increased the dmg and crt rate of the team attack skill. But it could just be how rng fell... I'd love to hear how some crt builds are fairing. So far I'm loving the magic bow int dex agi vit build.
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Post by novalord on Oct 19, 2018 10:55:23 GMT
Honestly I don't know if crit is worth the dmg and I will probably change it to int if it keeps on beings so low. Only doing 70-75k per match hit (crt 192).
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Post by lahunts on Oct 19, 2018 12:42:01 GMT
Honestly I don't know if crit is worth the dmg and I will probably change it to int if it keeps on beings so low. Only doing 70-75k per match hit (crt 192). Yea that is low... What is your ice spear and scratch doing? My match with three wolfs is 55k, ice spear does up to 45k per wolf and 52k on a fire mob, and scratch is up to 26-27k. I have 300 int 50 vit 160 agi 180 dex.
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Post by novalord on Oct 19, 2018 14:46:01 GMT
Honestly I don't know if crit is worth the dmg and I will probably change it to int if it keeps on beings so low. Only doing 70-75k per match hit (crt 192). Yea that is low... What is your ice spear and scratch doing? My match with three wolfs is 55k, ice spear does up to 45k per wolf and 52k on a fire mob, and scratch is up to 26-27k. I have 300 int 50 vit 160 agi 180 dex. I have max dex 133 str and 192 crt Match: 70-75k, Scratch: 23k per wolf, Ice spear: 33k per wolf (haven't tried on fire element mobs yet) lv226 atm
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Post by Legacy on Oct 19, 2018 22:25:29 GMT
I read somewhere that agi increases absolute Eva on summoned beast and crit only affects the mashed atk skill which is pretty lame so I'd probably cancel out crit now
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