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Post by Deleted on Jun 15, 2018 5:12:52 GMT
Instead of spending on a melee pierce set that doesn't even work on barriers, just use an assault xtal/pet skill lol I wasted a lot of spina on this >.> it needs -4sec sd to spam tho, and the damage is about as strong as your regular crt damage. A melee pierce set should still be useful vs high def enemies.
With barrier bosses in mind, I'm trying to make a melee pierce set. I need some help in completing it. Here's what I thought of so far:
Legacy of will ii w/ skarops
Hulam ries re up w/ belial
Schwartz w/ ganei (cloning gear)
Barbarotita re up w/ ganei (my current add gear)
Disaster stone/Wild ring (my current specs)
My current stat build is str crt 100gr (spec claw build).
I made this set with the balance patch in mind so I only need -2sec sd. I have cheltil and sauro ii al, but I plan to extract cheltil, so I might need a qc in there somewhere.
I'm not sure if I'll do decent damage with this setup tbh. Idk how I'll balance atk, crt dmg and melee pierce+% for best results.
There weren't any spec claws with melee pierce, so I went for sword cuz it's the next best weapon for my stats. I couldn't get rid of my ganei on add cuz I can't clone without it atm, tho maybe it's possible with ries' hp+2k? If it works, I'm planning to get barb re up steiner instead.
Anyway, comments and suggestions are much appreciated. Tia.
Edit - new question - mephisto skarops vs low ii skarops?
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Post by NightBreeze on Jun 15, 2018 17:32:32 GMT
I believe melee pierce doesn't affect DOC.
cmiiw
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Post by Deleted on Jun 15, 2018 18:42:08 GMT
I believe melee pierce doesn't affect DOC. cmiiw This is news to me  would anyone confirm this? |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 18, 2018 14:27:57 GMT
Alright, so I finally farmed a hulam ries re up no xtal. I compared the damage to exe 4 cerberus. Here's what I got with 4 clone docs: Gear list: • Weapon: mephisto claw @289 +9 cerberus • Add gear: barbarotita re up ganei • Special: disaster stone ns Mob: oltra; I'm pretty sure these have some good def/mdef • Exe 4 cerb = 38,035.9 (average) Actual values →
41,105
40,992
33,363
41,135
33,469
26,125
40,938
40,929
41,279
41,024
• Hulam ries re up = 42,938 (average) Actual values →
45,285
45,367
37,320
45,232
37,365
45,349
37,209
45,379
45,364
45,510
If I did anything wrong with the test, lmk. Edit - anyway, it looks like this'll work o.O |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 18, 2018 16:02:25 GMT
Update: With same gears, I did 4 clone docs with belial xtal in h.ries. Results: • H.Ries belial = 48,524 (average) Actual values →
50,452
50,515
50,394
50,204
50,317
50,568
50,375
41,085
41,021
50,310
New question - mephisto skarops vs low ii skarops? |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2018 12:10:02 GMT
Okay, so I tried doc on oltras again after rebalance. Mephisto cerberus Boo up iniliba Barba re up ganei Killer seed ns Atk = 4,706 Damage: 119k Mephisto skarops H.Ries re up belial Barba up ganei Killer seed ns Atk = 4,194 Melee pierce = +51% Damage: 136k So it looks like melee pierce is still doing its job, right? It is, but then I tried fighting irai 1... The melee pierce set isn't working. I'm doing 11-12 damage per clone with both sets. What am I doing wrong? It took me a month to earn the spina for the melee pierce set so I'm more than devastated with the results.   |
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Dragsbro
Community Contributor 
I'm kind of a necromancer, as in playing with SK is just toying with dead stuff at this point
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Post by Dragsbro on Jul 12, 2018 14:15:01 GMT
Okay, so I tried doc on oltras again after rebalance. Mephisto cerberus Boo up iniliba Barba re up ganei Killer seed ns Atk = 4,706 Damage: 119k Mephisto skarops H.Ries re up belial Barba up ganei Killer seed ns Atk = 4,194 Melee pierce = +51% Damage: 136k So it looks like melee pierce is still doing its job, right? It is, but then I tried fighting irai 1... The melee pierce set isn't working. I'm doing 11-12 damage per clone with both sets. What am I doing wrong? It took me a month to earn the spina for the melee pierce set so I'm more than devastated with the results. As far as i know, Irai has a melee barrier, and not a high DEF. See it as, instead of equipping a lot of DEF equipments, he equipped max Super refine boo+sieger plate full Melee resistance xtals. DEF =/= Resist for us, i guess it goes the same way for bosses |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2018 14:32:04 GMT
Okay, so I tried doc on oltras again after rebalance. Mephisto cerberus Boo up iniliba Barba re up ganei Killer seed ns Atk = 4,706 Damage: 119k Mephisto skarops H.Ries re up belial Barba up ganei Killer seed ns Atk = 4,194 Melee pierce = +51% Damage: 136k So it looks like melee pierce is still doing its job, right? It is, but then I tried fighting irai 1... The melee pierce set isn't working. I'm doing 11-12 damage per clone with both sets. What am I doing wrong? It took me a month to earn the spina for the melee pierce set so I'm more than devastated with the results. As far as i know, Irai has a melee barrier, and not a high DEF. See it as, instead of equipping a lot of DEF equipments, he equipped max Super refine boo+sieger plate full Melee resistance xtals. DEF =/= Resist for us, i guess it goes the same way for bosses That makes sense if that is the case. What would you recommend I do in these situations? Also, is grapagos' barrier the same? |
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Post by NightBreeze on Jul 12, 2018 16:27:31 GMT
As far as i know, Irai has a melee barrier, and not a high DEF. See it as, instead of equipping a lot of DEF equipments, he equipped max Super refine boo+sieger plate full Melee resistance xtals. DEF =/= Resist for us, i guess it goes the same way for bosses That makes sense if that is the case. What would you recommend I do in these situations? Also, is grapagos' barrier the same? Maybe you can spam es-domi till you get past the barrier lol. I think magic should ignore this type of melee barrier. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2018 17:03:53 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jul 27, 2018 21:02:55 GMT
Update: assault xtal solved my problem. It needs -4sec sd to spam, and is about as strong as my auto attack damage.
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would anyone confirm this?
