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Post by 'AhSaN' on Jan 9, 2018 15:42:59 GMT
Hey guys!  I'm 'AhSaN' . I like to ask you about a build I'd like to go right now. This is based on my thoughts. And this setup is for pure party play. (I didn't test it yet e.e). If you're looking for soloing set for Shell Break dependent Geo monk, look at sensei @zura 's quote. I'd stick his quote after mine. (Sorry sensei Zura ^^")
My Build:
AGI=CRT>360INT>170VIT
Equipments:
Snead Claw + Sauro II
Exelis IV + Dorry
Daiginjo [Holiday] + Raton
Hard Scale Claw + Beelzenoid
Star Ability: 3 Quick Cool, 2 Autoskill
Apostolia: 2Red 3Green
▲Jahoel
▲Cheltil
▲Sauro II
▲Cordal II
▲Halios
The idea here is to rely on very high shell break Proc rate for damage using Geo breaker while being able to switch to Claw Monk for solo farming. This build is just for being party dependent mode. As you can see, Daiginjo [Holiday]
has a bad amount of critical rate negative. I do not have any Technique or Critical rate to support my Geo. That way my critical rate is very low. But, according to JP Wiki, Geo Breaker always does critical damage when the mob/boss is frozen or stunned. So that way, if the mob is frozen or stunned, Daiginjo's critical rate negative will not affect me.
[align center] Sensei @zura 's set[/align center]
Equipments:Snead claw II + sauro 2
Ira re up + Bodyguard cordal
Daiginjo up + Bodyguard cordal
Hard Scale Claw + Mr oritius
Ability:Full qc abi
▲Cheltil
▲Sauro 2
▲Sauro 3
▲Mamonea
▲Cordal 2
Calculations:
Crt dmg +72%
Atk +31%
Crt rate = 97
Sd -8sec
Autoskill +34%
Shell break +15%
This works for a solo set without using purple lines, but it needs 436 crt stat. Also, I made some mistakes. Your original build has +40% auto. The other one I made has +50%.
Lastly, I'd like to thank Sensei @ewpeople and Sensei ijus. This idea popped into my mind when I was checking their posts. xD
Thank you >.<
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ijus
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Since dec 2013~
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Post by ijus on Jan 9, 2018 16:47:54 GMT
Hello o.o//
IMO
1) VIT are always good.20-30k hp is the range u want to be so u wont get 1 hit
2) The typical geo build(even hybrid could outdamage u x.x)
3) Err..upgrade everything u can afford to? XD
4) cons ._.
-why snead claw?its auto based on maxmp
-daiginjo has that enormous crt rate penalty.im not sure w/out any crt % addition,would be enough to max crt rate(not w/o ira&purple line)
-lack of atk % could lower ur dps
Honestly for me i dont really think it would workout x.x it doesnt feel right for me..tho i would like u thought why such equip are choosen o.o/
IMO,if u wana go for purely shell dependent monk
1)ceduroll grapagos/sauro ll
2)ira ll mr. obligaus(6% auto ftw *-*)
3)daiginjo up raton
4)soul sucker fang
With lvl 5,4,3 auto abi
Hit hard for every shell that proc *-*)9
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Post by pingrek on Jan 9, 2018 17:40:32 GMT
Hello o.o// IMO 1) VIT are always good.20-30k hp is the range u want to be so u wont get 1 hit 2) The typical geo build(even hybrid could outdamage u x.x) 3) Err..upgrade everything u can afford to? XD 4) cons ._. -why snead claw?its auto based on maxmp -daiginjo has that enormous crt rate penalty.im not sure w/out any crt % addition,would be enough to max crt rate(not w/o ira&purple line) -lack of atk % could lower ur dps Honestly for me i dont really think it would workout x.x it doesnt feel right for me..tho i would like u thought why such equip are choosen o.o/ IMO,if u wana go for purely shell dependent monk 1)ceduroll grapagos/sauro ll 2)ira ll mr. obligaus(6% auto ftw *-*) 3)daiginjo up raton 4)soul sucker fang With lvl 5,4,3 auto abi Hit hard for every shell that proc *-*)9 I think the reason for snead claw is I think it has a hidden shell break rate +% if a monk but I can't remember what the % is supposed to be, and the reason for daiginjo is that geobreaker is supposed to always crit and do high damage to an enemy if they are stunned or frozen even if your character is blinded or your crit rate is abysmal due to negative rates from equips |
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ijus
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Post by ijus on Jan 9, 2018 22:41:45 GMT
Ohh..its about 10% hidden shell break bonus according to info o.o/
Hmm i think 'always crt when enemy is frozen/stuned' means geo always do double the damage when these two debuff present on an enemy o.o
a non crit geo due to low crit rate wont have that wouldnt have the crit damage multiplier wouldn'nt be not that impressive? o.o//
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Post by 'AhSaN' on Jan 10, 2018 8:30:25 GMT
Sorry for late reply >~<
ijus This equipment setup was for Geo only xD I want to go Snead Claw for that shell break +10% (As pingrek said) I am kinda confused too if that means increasing Proc rate or doing more damage. But I think it will increase the proc rate saying because I saw many Geo users switch to Mail breaker when a boss activates it's barrier.
And, The third question was a typing mistake xD. I was using voice typing 😅 (Too lazy to type ._.) I wanted to write if this set up will do more damage than a regular autoskill type monk?
The reason for thinking this setup is because I think Geo+Shell Break always does high damage. (Correct me if I'm wrong) But A chakra monk ATK growth rate is very low comparing to regular Geo build. so I thought increasing SB rate would make it proc most of the time and making Geo damage higher. Right now with this set, I am expecting to have Shell Break +80% (With the Autoskill +% taken from equipments to increase SB rate) this way I am thinking that my damage will be as good as a INT DEX CRT Geo Monk. but I'm not really sure .... will a Geo/Hybrid still easily outdamage me? (´°̥̥̥̥̥̥̥̥ω°̥̥̥̥̥̥̥̥｀)
And... third last question owo/ What should I change since it has lack of ATK +%?
Thank you
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ijus
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Post by ijus on Jan 10, 2018 8:50:15 GMT
Hmm there is a thread discussing about auto & shell break proc( +3% autoskil on add +1% shell?) Means +30% autoskill is about +10% sb TwT
The craziest/top build now should be veleno. Lots of video show how insane/fast they can kill x.x
ATK % should come with combination off xtal&equip. Since no STR, means ur basic damage really relied on weapon( 400 AGI would only give 800 raw ATK )
Well there arent many normal claw with hidden shell bonus that i know that also give ATK% bonus x.x
But its a very interesting idea,geo that will always hit an geo shell(if not often x.x) should be a nightmare to barrier bosses
We should first think of getting shell break to 70-80% chance,that 4 for every 5 hit. Ashura indeed pretty demanding *-*)9
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Post by 'AhSaN' on Jan 10, 2018 16:48:43 GMT
Yeah xD since it is not going to be interfering with my current Autoskill build I think it'll be very fun to test out owo.
By the way, I have this build setup in my mind before I wanted to go SB Geo
AGI=CRT=360INT>150~VIT (Adjusting)>100GR
This build will be a Little good, right? With GR it'll get some base ATK and EVA for survival. And new skills are much more powerful on Chakra Monks (I think Combo & Martial Arts do not need base ATK to increase. As Combo increases the damage you deal?) And, the new adjustments, it seems like we'll get a good amount of MaxHP and MaxMP improvement? With this stat setup... wouldn't it be very balanced? >u<
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Post by bikini on Jan 21, 2018 23:19:07 GMT
sb is high when use claw than other weap.
use special " hard scale claw" instead ssf
40℅ passive and 10℅ snead, hard reach 70-80sb.
u need 70-75℅ auto for reach 70℅ sb(x.x)
How many sb give yellow candy?
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Post by 'AhSaN' on Jan 22, 2018 4:03:20 GMT
sb is high when use claw than other weap. use special " hard scale claw" instead ssf 40℅ passive and 10℅ snead, hard reach 70-80sb. u need 70-75℅ auto for reach 70℅ sb(x.x) How many sb give yellow candy?
I'll give you my passive SB plan
Adding Snead Claw and HSC makes +15%.
So total is 67% SB Rate.
If I manage to add Autoskill +39% then I will reach +80% Shell Break rate. This is what I am planning to do. So that even being a Survivability based Monk, my Geo damage will still be comparible to regular Geo Monks.
Only thing to do.... Need to check if this setup would be good  I still don't know if being fully SB dependent Geo will dead as high damage as Regular Geo in overall 10-Hits damage comparison owo/ |
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Post by batuo on Feb 6, 2018 2:12:04 GMT
You could always use barbarotita reup Raton allows for huge damage increase
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2018 2:14:13 GMT
You could always use barbarotita reup Raton allows for huge damage increase I think the reason he used dai up is because of the autoskill+% which increases shellbreak+% which is beneficial to this build since, well, title says it all. |
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Post by dansi on Feb 8, 2018 18:20:03 GMT
how much Hard Scale Claw slot?
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Post by Aza on Mar 3, 2020 0:59:05 GMT
I used exactly same stats and I'm loving it! My Geo can hit up to 1.2m solo on 3i (freeze+shellbreak), can evade most 3i hits so I can be a tank+dmg and when I need to solo boss I can switch to auto-atk. Normal claw geo is not that bad  Tho the pure one can do more but the gap isn't that huge I guess. |
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I'm 'AhSaN' . I like to ask you about a build I'd like to go right now. This is based on my thoughts. And this setup is for pure party play. (I didn't test it yet e.e). If you're looking for soloing set for Shell Break dependent Geo monk, look at sensei @zura 's quote. I'd stick his quote after mine. (Sorry sensei Zura ^^") 
I still don't know if being fully SB dependent Geo will dead as high damage as Regular Geo in overall 10-Hits damage comparison owo/ 
Tho the pure one can do more but the gap isn't that huge I guess.