Makina Yuki
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Post by Makina Yuki on Mar 23, 2018 15:25:16 GMT
Undyne Ohh, I get what you mean I dont know how hard zero to survive. I always think that they hard to survive even before class adjusment, but maybe you know better than me how hard it is. But yea, I agree that mirage damage reduction is dissapointing and you still need relies at resist set etc.
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Post by Undyne on Mar 23, 2018 15:41:58 GMT
Sometimes it feels like assault is a 40% dodge rate at ep 5+ and even with mirage using zero set, still taking 8-12k even from bosses like Pauk who have pretty pathetic damage, glad you understand now at least. Tbh made the paladin because I was tired of living off RNG and monk because I wanted bosses to die somewhat easily for once xD
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Rocketpower
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Post by Rocketpower on Mar 23, 2018 15:48:10 GMT
Umm Anyone know what's the Lv.340 High wizard skill? o.o
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Rocketpower
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Post by Rocketpower on Mar 23, 2018 15:50:17 GMT
Rocketpower yea, I test sin and they only do 500k bs damage, but did you think that I can do more damage with weapon that better than kagekiri? Also, I dont get crt damage al in test server so far .-. Rocketpowerthis is bs with kagekiri 900k but i don't have best meta eqp, plus there might be ways to enhance it further, idk much bout sins q.q only did phantom+bs, but i believe theres more to it I know qwq this is super late, But what was the Boss name you tried this on??
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Post by Undyne on Mar 23, 2018 15:52:37 GMT
Multicast, essentially doubles element magic spells at the cost of -75% cspd, and force boost which gives element magic +50%, mpc-66%, cast time-50% iirc, can only use it after successfully using an elemental imp
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Post by 'AhSaN' on Mar 23, 2018 16:25:03 GMT
Undyne I have both High Wizard and Monk. What I can say about these two is they have different ways to survive. High Wizard, it survived with having distance between boss, drain, and Thunderbolt, which saves you. But when you run in front of Aggressive mobs, without any VIT, RIP. Monk, it survived with having High Magic Resistance and Evasion. Just some VIT to be able to not 1H-K-O by Physical attacks. It passes with flying colors when it comes to dealing with aggressive mobs. But RIP when it comes to only Physical damage dealers. What I'd say is, they both are balanced, in different way, but balanced. I'm not regularly reading the Balance Adjustment. But I did not see "Imperial Ray" getting nerfed or something. It gives a survival buff, I forgot what it really gives (IIRC, its EVA and something else). But it seems like it's fine. I beleive with Drain and Imperial Buff, we can overcome Bandersnatch's Survival nerf. Also most HW uses 170VIT. Which decently increases MaxHP. So, that'd be kinda balanced between HW and Monk.
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Post by Undyne on Mar 23, 2018 16:36:12 GMT
Its marked as def, and yes it gives abuff to evasion. However hw is not built to depend on evasion, agi majorly screws up spamming, you could use 100gl and some green in apos but that isn't very much either
With my monk at 280, I can use a full DPS set and take hits relatively well thanks to asura, its quite a large damage reduction as well and does not end when hit once, and cannot be debuffed by bosses
Edit: what annoys me is the lengths we have to go to the be efficient solo as is, before this balance change. Hoping asobimo will rethink this
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Post by NightBreeze on Mar 23, 2018 16:41:37 GMT
I know qwq this is super late, But what was the Boss name you tried this on?? That's Obligaus.
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Post by Undyne on Mar 23, 2018 16:51:56 GMT
Also, has anyone checked the blog today? Because I see something about the bishop resu rework there
Edit: yay they un-destroyed res lol, 30 second debuff instead of 60
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Post by Done~with~forums on Mar 23, 2018 17:28:54 GMT
High wizard actually has high survival capability but the hw now a day just wana zero verything some dont even drain xD
1.Mirage lowers dmg (even nerf still lowers)
2.Thor hammer blinds so boss cant crt hit you
3.blizard lowers def/mdef of bosses and slows mobs movement speed
4.imp ray buff gives eva and rate cut (fight me i took 1 dmg from 3 eyes shell break useing this buff)
5.thunder bolt lowers bosses/mobs atk speed
6.earth quake stuns and slows boss atk speed
7.earth spike stuns boss/mobs
8. Cast def Last but not least drain can revive you can helps keep you alive
If i forgot something my bad c.c
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Post by Undyne on Mar 23, 2018 17:45:18 GMT
Tbh I use imp more than ZR now, because no ones mentioned cast defense yet xD huge Dmg cut, but can't be used with ZR. I'm excited for imp lv 2 but I feel like the be evasion nerf is going to take a lot of hw independence away. We can't exactly imp every boss to death, that's kinda what ZR was for. I just feel like the nerf involving evasion isnt necessary to prevent hw from tanking. They could've just greatly lowered aggro of ZR so they can't keep aggro, or do what they did and take the safety net away (resu)
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Rocketpower
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Post by Rocketpower on Mar 23, 2018 18:10:47 GMT
I know qwq this is super late, But what was the Boss name you tried this on?? That's Obligaus. oches..960k dmg..with Darkness buff and 2slot Add/Armor and Phantom... and here at English I can deal 1.1m with 1slot Armor and Add...without Phantom buff...Men this hurts the dmg a lot.....
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Post by Undyne on Mar 23, 2018 18:15:45 GMT
Bright side is, sins still probably going to be the best boss farmer in the game xD slower but much safer than before
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Post by NightBreeze on Mar 23, 2018 18:20:05 GMT
Bright side is, sins still probably going to be the best boss farmer in the game xD slower but much safer than before Safer? How?
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Post by Undyne on Mar 23, 2018 18:22:32 GMT
You pretty much need to use phantom step now, so make use of the other new skill. Sicarius stun>go crazy for 10 sec venom dance>repeat. Stun locking the boss basically while still doing nice damage
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