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Post by Maxwello on Jan 14, 2018 1:40:49 GMT
Please don't forget that the clones are the only defence though. If ur a gladiator and expect a normal hit ti do Whatever dmg u know u can take xx hits. Clones work same way they are instead of hp.
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Post by Done~with~forums on Jan 14, 2018 1:45:25 GMT
Please don't forget that the clones are the only defence though. If ur a gladiator and expect a normal hit ti do Whatever dmg u know u can take xx hits. Clones work same way they are instead of hp. we have a revive passives and it works back to back xD i have a ninja and sometimes i just dont use clones and let my passive carry me most times it happend in 1 go was 6 but mostly 2-3x but most ninjas think this skill useless but for a vit build like me its works well with swift shadow and clones for amazing survival
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Post by Maxwello on Jan 14, 2018 1:53:38 GMT
Sorry ye I'm speaking for the 2014 to 2015 and half of 2016 sort of era where the agi crt 1 hp build was the recommended ninja and for one who stuck with it and became good at it and who really enjoys it for its pros and cons
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Post by Makina Yuki on Jan 14, 2018 4:24:01 GMT
Thats why asobimo said you can choose survival or damage build for your ninja. They modified clones so I believe they will add more survival skill for agi crt user.
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Post by AnTz on Jan 14, 2018 4:47:32 GMT
Sorry ye I'm speaking for the 2014 to 2015 and half of 2016 sort of era where the agi crt 1 hp build was the recommended ninja and for one who stuck with it and became good at it and who really enjoys it for its pros and cons In my point of view, AGI CRT build is never been recommended build for ninja from developer's perspective. Do ninja get claw mastery/or other skills that give benefit to that build instead of desperate move, DoC n later boosted by PF, Which then gonna be nerfed soon? Instead of those, ninja is given a throw/shuriken mastery and wide variety of magic skills. Isnt it explicit enough to see developer's intention that ninja should be built as throw based magic class? But, back again that Iruna is MMORPG. MMORPG always have what we call by player exploit. AGI CRT ninja is product of player creativity, exploiting the skills given by dev to make unthinkable build that have totally different gameplay. It have superb solo skill compared to the 'original' build at early stage, but also have fatal weakness: limited skills that can be utilized. AGI CRT build blooms again when Phantom flame is released. Make it become a one hit killer for mid & old boss, and one of the best dps class in game. But apparently, because of this, meta for party is broken, many other classes become categorized as weak, and doesnt get chance to be in party. And so... here we are now.. Waiting for balancing patch xD
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Post by Makina Yuki on Jan 14, 2018 5:38:05 GMT
Even true strong class such as gladiator & enchanter are underated in meta party .-.
I think asobimo made right decision for clone mechanic because most player think that sk can tank just using clone & dealt high damage at same time. Most ppl ignore another tanking aspect such as hate management. Even ench with good hate management with autoskill (will nefred soon too x.x) + high dps & survival still not welcomed in meta party.
In my opinion, ninja is dps class. Semi tank+dps class should be enchanter, gladi, and samu role.
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Post by Maxwello on Jan 14, 2018 9:58:28 GMT
Not being funny but there is no developer instruction manual or class (stat allocation) recommendations so of course I mean community recommended.
Sounds like a few people here are following captain hindsight's lead.
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Post by ruebear on Jan 19, 2018 15:50:05 GMT
I know I should read before posting but who has time to read through 24 pages of posts? Any how..
Can anyone explain more in depth on how Minstrels are going to be nerfed? I don't see why they should be nerfed.
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Post by Done~with~forums on Jan 19, 2018 18:46:18 GMT
I know I should read before posting but who has time to read through 24 pages of posts? Any how.. Can anyone explain more in depth on how Minstrels are going to be nerfed? I don't see why they should be nerfed. form what i read in this thread they are geting song nerfed and receiving solo capability so its not rly bad its a good thing
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Post by NightBreeze on Jan 19, 2018 22:18:28 GMT
I know I should read before posting but who has time to read through 24 pages of posts? Any how.. Can anyone explain more in depth on how Minstrels are going to be nerfed? I don't see why they should be nerfed. form what i read in this thread they are geting song nerfed and receiving solo capability so its not rly bad its a good thing For players like me who use their minstrel just for buffing and don't care about soloing, it's a bad thing.
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Post by Done~with~forums on Jan 19, 2018 22:31:16 GMT
form what i read in this thread they are geting song nerfed and receiving solo capability so its not rly bad its a good thing For players like me who use their minstrel just for buffing and don't care about soloing, it's a bad thing. rip pro leecher lol so is alot of what they are doing rip clones rip songs rip rev rip matk rip crt rip more to come
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Post by Zycron on Jan 19, 2018 23:06:28 GMT
Are they going to Nerf all autoskill builds or just enchanter? And I dont think they are going to totally break clones it's not like the game is in it's prime anymore if they ruin soloing they are going to loose alot of money I think you guys are overthinking things at least I hope
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Post by Ismyle on Jan 19, 2018 23:18:56 GMT
I know I should read before posting but who has time to read through 24 pages of posts? Any how.. Can anyone explain more in depth on how Minstrels are going to be nerfed? I don't see why they should be nerfed. form what i read in this thread they are geting song nerfed and receiving solo capability so its not rly bad its a good thing "recieving solo capability" Now I can see a glimpse of hope for more solo minstrels.
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Post by rakesh22 on Jan 20, 2018 5:30:11 GMT
So how much is the crit nerf gonna affect my gladiator damage? Pillar, tempest, astute?
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Post by UIRepth on Jan 20, 2018 6:46:28 GMT
So how much is the crit nerf gonna affect my gladiator damage? Pillar, tempest, astute? Crit dmg = A*B*C*D to A*B*(C+D) A=white dmg B=Element C=critical dmg from CRT stat D=Crit dmg from skill,buff,passive etc
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