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Post by rizen on Oct 28, 2017 1:42:54 GMT
Which one is the best for str monk?
*lets say that all eq. are in their final up
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Post by pingrek on Oct 28, 2017 1:52:10 GMT
Which one is the best for str monk? *lets say that all eq. are in their final up Dai up veleno would end up being the better one I think because you get autoskill% for extra chance at veleno proc |
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Post by rizen on Oct 28, 2017 1:53:48 GMT
Which one is the best for str monk? *lets say that all eq. are in their final up Dai up veleno would end up being the better one I think because you get autoskill% for extra chance at veleno proc Thats what I'm thinking too, but the tri attack chance looks promising. XD |
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Post by pingrek on Oct 28, 2017 1:56:01 GMT
Dai up veleno would end up being the better one I think because you get autoskill% for extra chance at veleno proc Thats what I'm thinking too, but the tri attack chance looks promising. XD It's got a soft cap at 10k damage so it will get outshined by veleno in terms of damage if you deal 15k+ damage |
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Post by rizen on Oct 28, 2017 3:43:57 GMT
Nasturtium has a soft cap too? Demn i thought soft caps are only applicable to additional atk chance not triple attack.
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Post by pingrek on Oct 28, 2017 4:18:22 GMT
Nasturtium has a soft cap too? Demn i thought soft caps are only applicable to additional atk chance not triple attack. Most physical autoskills have a soft cap, it's just some are at a lower value like at 10k like WOL, wyn, nasturtium, showy bangle, while others have a higher cap like how edg has triple attack chance just like nasturtium yet it will do more damage than nasturtium because the cap on it is slightly higher letting it do more damage before hitting the cap and the damage getting diminished |
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Post by ≧▽≦Pipopapo on Oct 28, 2017 11:53:03 GMT
using dai up isn't good since -70% Crit rate and accuracy -30 your basic atk will always miss and other autoskill wont trigger
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Post by pingrek on Oct 28, 2017 13:38:04 GMT
using dai up isn't good since -70% Crit rate and accuracy -30 your basic atk will always miss and other autoskill wont trigger Having max overcapped crt plus maybe a tech 4 or 5 and your covered from the crt rate negative |
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Post by 'AhSaN' on Oct 28, 2017 15:08:34 GMT
I dont know about Nasturtium Veleno. But if I go full damage and usually grinding bosses in a party, I'd choose Daiginjo + Veleno Rosa. Because the stats fit Veleno Rosa. But in case of soloing, I've doubt if Force Helm Veleno is good. Never tried that but what concerns me is that it has no Autoskill. Without that, The Melee R, and the Damage boost should be great. If you treat it like wearing HCB and covering Autoskill +%.
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Post by ≧▽≦Pipopapo on Oct 28, 2017 17:00:09 GMT
using dai up isn't good since -70% Crit rate and accuracy -30 your basic atk will always miss and other autoskill wont trigger Having max overcapped crt plus maybe a tech 4 or 5 and your covered from the crt rate negative its hard to cover 70% even you have max crt stats and tech 5/4 |
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Post by pingrek on Oct 28, 2017 17:11:17 GMT
Having max overcapped crt plus maybe a tech 4 or 5 and your covered from the crt rate negative its hard to cover 70% even you have max crt stats and tech 5/4 Chances are the armor will be dmail reup or ira reup both of which have crt rate so if either of those is what's being used then a tech5 or 4 with max crt is enough as long as a boss doesn't have a crt rate debuff |
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Post by kenken on Oct 29, 2017 6:17:42 GMT
What add you think can be paired for edg? I dunt wanna make another thread abt this coz the concern is somehow same, additional equip  atm i use edg, ira reup, nastur and catura wol. I find dps is good but yeah i dont have hp absorb, i wanna use soul sucker fang as soon as price will go down. But since ive read that nastur had dmg cap, im planning on getting hcb instead :/ im confused x.x thanks for opinions and help |
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Post by haz on Oct 29, 2017 8:06:15 GMT
This my opinion.
Nasturtium has soft cap so i drop it out of comparison.
Real dmge comparison is force helm vs daiginjo.
Depends on your crt rate and special equip (like ror)
>>Highest crt dmge+auto = daiginjo+ror
>>but it's totally impossible to land crt even with max tech/purple line/crt stats
>>Highest possible crt dmge+auto = daiginjo+wild ring
>> Assuming u have enough crt rate. This is optimum dmge+auto you can have.the dmge slightly lower than above combo but hey, it's possible e.e
>>Next force helm+ror
>> Like above but lower crt dmge/auto
>>Force helm+any spec equip
>>Lower crt dmge than above
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atm i use edg, ira reup, nastur and catura wol. I find dps is good but yeah i dont have hp absorb, i wanna use soul sucker fang as soon as price will go down. But since ive read that nastur had dmg cap, im planning on getting hcb instead :/ im confused x.x thanks for opinions and help