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Post by Warhiet on Oct 4, 2017 21:01:33 GMT
Aright guys, I've gone around reading through the guides on here for bishop and I have one problem: They are all old. I think the most current one is about a year old and any beyond that are multiple years old.
I'm not much for casting classes but since I'm back I figured I'd give it a try. I'm currently a level 120 Adventurer with 367 unattributed stat points. My goal is both healing and solo play since most people tend to have to deal with real life at random moments.
Now, being I'm heading into this blind I was thinking of doing a three-two-one distribution build with Int Dex Vit. I've no gear to speak of except witch hat, magic robes, and a Prince rod. Gear can be worked on later.
It should be noted that I eventually plan to turn this guy into an alchemist that can solo bosses. But that is a very long way off as I want my crafts at 125 a pop before switching and I need a spina base.
So with the goal of a solo healer in mind, what should I do with these points, and what is good early gear I can use to supplement it?
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Post by basiliko on Oct 4, 2017 21:47:49 GMT
The guide isnt as outdated as you might think, only the equipment suggestion is outdated, but the leveling method is the same.
Generally cleric-bishop is very hard for non-veteran players to solo because your Holy Light deals pity damage and Nemesis is lv 160 skill.
You can take advantage of current +1000%exp event right now. I would recommend you two paths: 1. change to app wiz (not full wiz) and seek pt at Yarde or 3i who want a mp heal slave (need vit for larger mp heal) 2. change to full bishop and buy spam heal set, seek pt at Yarde or 3i for someone who need spam heal or holy bless (need dex for speed)
If you level via solo, then you will need to save spina for counter set (water counter is best) or snead claw (invest in agi), both aint cheap
Water counter set: Freesia Rod, Snow Earmuff, Crystal Ice Necklace\Shellfish ring
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Post by Warhiet on Oct 4, 2017 22:38:03 GMT
Alright, that sounds easy enough. But what about stat distribution for bishop? What's the ratio these days? I'm thinking three two one, but I don't know. Caster classes aren't my thing.
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Post by basiliko on Oct 5, 2017 4:15:05 GMT
Alright, that sounds easy enough. But what about stat distribution for bishop? What's the ratio these days? I'm thinking three two one, but I don't know. Caster classes aren't my thing. Int,Dex,and Vit,I would recommend you max int first,then Dex,and some points into Vit (not need to max,just enough to survive solo or mq) If you ever want to switch to High Wizard,Necromancer,Alchemist or Servant,Int/Dex/Vit is also the stat If caster class aint your thing, then perhaps you can consider try out solo melee class like Paladin or Beast Knight?
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Post by Warhiet on Oct 5, 2017 15:55:34 GMT
Alright, that sounds easy enough. But what about stat distribution for bishop? What's the ratio these days? I'm thinking three two one, but I don't know. Caster classes aren't my thing. Int,Dex,and Vit,I would recommend you max int first,then Dex,and some points into Vit (not need to max,just enough to survive solo or mq) If you ever want to switch to High Wizard,Necromancer,Alchemist or Servant,Int/Dex/Vit is also the stat If caster class aint your thing, then perhaps you can consider try out solo melee class like Paladin or Beast Knight? Alright so about when should I start putting points into vit? Maxing Int is straight forward enough. So maybe after 200 dex? And yeah, I'd considered that but I figured I'd try something in the caster family. They've always been good at the solo farms as far as I can recall.
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Post by basiliko on Oct 5, 2017 16:12:00 GMT
Int,Dex,and Vit,I would recommend you max int first,then Dex,and some points into Vit (not need to max,just enough to survive solo or mq) If you ever want to switch to High Wizard,Necromancer,Alchemist or Servant,Int/Dex/Vit is also the stat If caster class aint your thing, then perhaps you can consider try out solo melee class like Paladin or Beast Knight? Alright so about when should I start putting points into vit? Maxing Int is straight forward enough. So maybe after 200 dex? And yeah, I'd considered that but I figured I'd try something in the caster family. They've always been good at the solo farms as far as I can recall. About 50 VIT if you decide to solo leveling as App Wiz, Cleric actually dont need VIT until max Int and Dex, since this class has Heal skill and passive bonus hp boost, and you should be in party leveling anyway Dont max Dex before Int as Cleric-Bishop, since your only damaging skills would be Mana Wave and Holy Light, which deals pity damage compared to Wizard's Ice Lance and Fire Lance If soloing, I recommend change to app Wiz until you get to lv 160, then change to Bishop and learn Nemesis (remember to farm required skill quest items before changing to bishop) If pting, then change to bishop now and seek party at 3i or Yarde and spam heal Keep in mind that Bishop cant solo bosses until you get Counter set or Snead set (because Nemesis deals 1/10th damage on bosses)
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Post by Warhiet on Oct 5, 2017 17:14:45 GMT
Alright so about when should I start putting points into vit? Maxing Int is straight forward enough. So maybe after 200 dex? And yeah, I'd considered that but I figured I'd try something in the caster family. They've always been good at the solo farms as far as I can recall. About 50 VIT if you decide to solo leveling as App Wiz, Cleric actually dont need VIT until max Int and Dex, since this class has Heal skill and passive bonus hp boost, and you should be in party leveling anyway Dont max Dex before Int as Cleric-Bishop, since your only damaging skills would be Mana Wave and Holy Light, which deals pity damage compared to Wizard's Ice Lance and Fire Lance If soloing, I recommend change to app Wiz until you get to lv 160, then change to Bishop and learn Nemesis (remember to farm required skill quest items before changing to bishop) If pting, then change to bishop now and seek party at 3i or Yarde and spam heal Keep in mind that Bishop cant solo bosses until you get Counter set or Snead set (because Nemesis deals 1/10th damage on bosses) Working on the counter set now for bishop. I have the freesia rod (pretty sure it is version one) with gerust. Debating dropping gerust for sofys but, eh, debates for when I have more funding. Just need to figure out the armor. Might go with the shell over the ice necklace. Still not sure. The set seems to have skill delay debuffs out the wazoo. Which is apparently bad for nemesis. Speaking of, why does it only do a tenth damage to bosses?
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Post by pingrek on Oct 5, 2017 17:34:30 GMT
About 50 VIT if you decide to solo leveling as App Wiz, Cleric actually dont need VIT until max Int and Dex, since this class has Heal skill and passive bonus hp boost, and you should be in party leveling anyway Dont max Dex before Int as Cleric-Bishop, since your only damaging skills would be Mana Wave and Holy Light, which deals pity damage compared to Wizard's Ice Lance and Fire Lance If soloing, I recommend change to app Wiz until you get to lv 160, then change to Bishop and learn Nemesis (remember to farm required skill quest items before changing to bishop) If pting, then change to bishop now and seek party at 3i or Yarde and spam heal Keep in mind that Bishop cant solo bosses until you get Counter set or Snead set (because Nemesis deals 1/10th damage on bosses) Working on the counter set now for bishop. I have the freesia rod (pretty sure it is version one) with gerust. Debating dropping gerust for sofys but, eh, debates for when I have more funding. Just need to figure out the armor. Might go with the shell over the ice necklace. Still not sure. The set seems to have skill delay debuffs out the wazoo. Which is apparently bad for nemesis. Speaking of, why does it only do a tenth damage to bosses? Do not put sofys in freesia rod, sofys is weaker than freesia under normal circumstances, and nemesis doing little damage to bosses is just how the developers made it, it even says so in the skill description that it's less effective against bosses which includes rare mobs
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Post by basiliko on Oct 5, 2017 18:16:53 GMT
Working on the counter set now for bishop. I have the freesia rod (pretty sure it is version one) with gerust. Debating dropping gerust for sofys but, eh, debates for when I have more funding. Just need to figure out the armor. Might go with the shell over the ice necklace. Still not sure. The set seems to have skill delay debuffs out the wazoo. Which is apparently bad for nemesis. Speaking of, why does it only do a tenth damage to bosses? Dont put Sofys on any equipment that has auto (like Freesia Rod or Snow Earmuff),you can only have up to four autos (one from each equipment you wear),putting in Sofys would replace Freesia Rod‘s water counter,which is bad because Sofys’ light counter damage is much weaker than Freesia The best damage armor would be Struggler,but that be obviously way out of your budget now,so stick with whatever you can find,like Cleric Robe or Mage Robe,until you can afford one。You can experiment other armor that reduce Skill Delay or mp cost Using counter set,basically all you have to do is spam heal on yourself while the autos handle the rest。I only use counter when I am soloing bosses,most of time I use Nemesis on regular mobs。Nemesis deals only 1/10th damage to bosses is the way developer designed it; otherwise it would make Bishop too powerful (self-healing like an immortal while dealing tons of damage) and makes other classes redundant Keep Princely Rod in case if you decide to upgrade it to Queen Rod-Empress Rod-then Caterina,which is one of the three best rods for Bishop (the other two are Staff of Dawn and Saint Scripture)
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Post by NightBreeze on Oct 5, 2017 23:03:38 GMT
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♪Sumire
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Summoner new skills pls *-*
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Post by ♪Sumire on Oct 5, 2017 23:09:18 GMT
alot of advice's already xD oh well I'll just add a little something xD for the counter set ..on spec u should use coral hairpin which has the same counter as ice crystal necklace just cheaper and a bit weaker.. since holy light deals crap on non dark bosses u can also use mana wave while spamming heal on interval
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Post by Warhiet on Oct 7, 2017 1:21:56 GMT
Alright, lots of advise here. I just need to max dex now and dump the rest into vit.
My next question are for skill delay sets and healing sets. I assume struggler is more for solo, so what are the other sets for this class to date?
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Post by basiliko on Oct 7, 2017 4:15:07 GMT
Alright, lots of advise here. I just need to max dex now and dump the rest into vit. My next question are for skill delay sets and healing sets. I assume struggler is more for solo, so what are the other sets for this class to date? This guide: irunaonline.boards.net/thread/18458/skyfallxs-mini-bishop-guideBishop has 4 sets: 1mp spam set (usually in party spamming Resurrection fast and at 1mp), Nemesis set (for farming mobs), Counter set or Snead set (for bosses), and Heal set (also known as the Beginner Cheap set, most newbie Bishop start with this) Other sets like Dual Blow, Range +, etc have gone obsolete as Bishop has wider variety of equipment to mix (For example, Skill Delay set and 1mp set combine as 1mp spam set after introduction of Saint Scripture and Taenia Beret; the introduction of Snead Claw means you dont need to get pets that know Dual Blow skill, thus making auto-attack Bishop much easier to create)
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Post by Warhiet on Oct 7, 2017 5:07:57 GMT
So is there currently a skill spam set and mp set for faster spamming now, it is that completely obsolete? I now have a near full counter set. I only have one crysta, gerust, on my staff. No idea what abilities I need for it. And no idea if the spam set is what nemesis is for.
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Post by Warhiet on Oct 7, 2017 5:29:39 GMT
And what's the nemesis set these days? Those are a lot of items listed and not many actual sets. Just various options.
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