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Post by maximo24 on Jun 7, 2017 11:50:53 GMT
Ok guys it me again i was trying to delete my old treat but i couldn't find the option to delete the entire treat if someone knows how to doit please leave a comment below
Ok well we finally got the new skills we Were waiting for and tnks to that now i have a better view for sp claw build
OK special claw must have this main stats
Str and why well theres litle no many sp claws so theres only 2 sp claw but the latest one gives you many good things the name of that claws is Purity Claw II Effect: ATK: 254 DEF: 10 Skill delay -1.2 sec, Heal recovery +23%, STR +5, MaxHP +15%, DEF up by STR1- str incr For each point on str you get 4 atk and 1point on def why you need str well 1st for damage 2nd str increase chances of getting mobs on bleeding and fear 😨 so str is a must for sp claw
2nd Critical why well 1st increase the damage from various skills if you have passive skill assault from premium pet you will hit your 1st blow of beast slash crt that skills with elementary weapon especially with swords will hit over 200k 1st blow after that just will do regular dmg 2nd inc the damage from impact blow That skill can crt and the main dmg is from crt and bleeding that skills start at 85% of max power after 3 blows gets to his 100% form there the dmg inc very litle every hit and you will need crt 3rd crt inc the critical rate for Rapid fang so crt is a must 4th crt incr 1 atk each point so is a win win
3rd stat well in my build i went to vit why well you going to mix if you want to save mp you can use your skill impact blow And hit with no problem the enemy plus bn close to enemies with no agi you need some meat to survive the hits i pick vit because agility make you squishy you will be constantly dying from crt hit from bosses so i fell more in control with higher hp then agility and i can use all my skills without worrying about the ato hits
Now whats my stats well im current lv 345
My stats are 428str-428vit-428crt-103int
The al crystal i use is Mamonea Ouvel Sauro2 Teo Gatekeeper
For xtail try to get or xt to incr crt dmg of both like raton but all depends on your budget my xt are Grapagos for weapon Dorry for now on armor Raton on additional Beezenoid on special
For gear i use 2 set of armors Belos order dorry in case the boss hit hard Or ultimi re up for more crt dmg
On aditiona i use force helm te up the best for crt dmg on sp claws build
On special i use ring of rush slot
Well thats my set and build if you guys have questions or suggestions let me know
NOTES there still another skills for bk one skill semms to incr magic def by alot i dont know the name but i saw a guy on jp iruna using it and he really reduce mag atks by alot well ill kepp update once we get it maybe another 4 months jeje
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Post by NightBreeze on Jun 7, 2017 16:12:45 GMT
Dorry has -rate cut, that doesn't help. I think Inliba would be better in your boo, -2% atk but way better survivability.
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Post by Brown on Jun 7, 2017 16:55:58 GMT
I think Int stat on bk is a waste really, rapid fang consumes 15% of your max mp always
Also Elleviation boosts Absolute/Magic evasion by 45%? thats basically dodging nearly 50% of the attacks made by bosses
You can further boost it with Arelta up for additional which gives 7%atk, 6%absolute/magic eva and 15%hp
BK also have magic parry which for claws is 75% magic mitigation
Claw BK to me is pretty much playing with RNG
Elleviaion for swords boosts physical and magical resist instead
Sorry if I gone off topic ._./
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Post by asteg on Jun 7, 2017 17:35:33 GMT
Is there a abs Eva build out yet? I'd love to see claw Eva BK vs like sin or monk
To my knowledge abs Eva is a fixed miss rate for bosses...so agi is norm Eva and that's for physical but abs Eva is a fixed rate for both magic and physical atks to miss that isn't based on anything but ur abs Eva +%
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Post by asteg on Jun 7, 2017 17:39:22 GMT
Int is a huge waste on BK, it's better to go str crt vit agi for class..for swords I'd throw 100 points into spec stats.. green worsks for Eva/atk with 3 green Al and 2 reds
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Post by Brown on Jun 7, 2017 17:48:21 GMT
As to what I know while wandering JP wiki:
Magic evasion is for evading magic right? Then what's the point of absolute evasion?
So rather I now assume Absolute eva is for PHYSICAL skills Magic Eva is for magic skills Normal Eva is for normal attacks
Ever wondered why sin has both absolute and magic evasion? If absolute Eva would dodge both magic and physical, why would they even need magic eva at all
Its not a bad idea to have some resist in case you get hit but it should be a secondary thing IMO ._.)/ (I used normal claws so maybe I'm biased)
I used 4red 4 yellow and planning to 100red stat for my apostolia with Leviam Cheltil Maelriel Octocur Malti
My stats are str>agi>CRT>100vit I used my apostolia as a small survival extention while I can go for equips with the stats that I want instead
I find al crystas' stats don't leave as much impact as to what you can get from equipments hence I did what I did ._.)/
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Post by NightBreeze on Jun 7, 2017 19:35:18 GMT
Brown absolute evasion differs from normal evasion in that it allows you to evade even the enemies' critical attacks.
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Post by maximo24 on Jun 8, 2017 0:24:27 GMT
Well i try before regular claw build and to be honest as much i love to use dif tipe of claws and the dmg the survivability sck so bad i try to kill ouvel with ultimi re up i test ghost ringh incre ab eva and some fights i got kill in my 1st try to use rapid fang or on the mitle of the fight you get hurt bad some hits when pasing max hp so yeap is good for regular mobs maybe bosses with lower lv maybe for epi 2 and below but my other attempts with str crt max vit i dint have any struggle easy kills i dont even worry about to get hit i pic int insted of going red lin or other stat because i wqnt to have litle mg def everything counts and that thing about that claws have a 50% mag resistance is not yet implemented is coming in a new skill i thin is at lv 320 i did test full magig blade test max int dex crt i try to solo veleno rosa and i got dmg over 8k even with magic parry using bellow order inalibas so i think we need to wait for those skill i waht a guy from jp and he was using sword vs veleno and the dmg form veleno rosa was very low but i see he was using one skill that we dont have so for now i think i will stick with this build until we get the rest of skill so i can get a full picture
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Post by asteg on Jun 8, 2017 1:16:52 GMT
English x.x
If abs Eva can evade critical attacks that's pretty nice...does shell break count tho?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2017 2:14:04 GMT
IMO only you should just invest your INT to your dex to counter the penalty from ROR which increases your delay due to DEX reduction.
INT is indeed waste of stats and pots. I tried wearing sieger in my BK and my rapid fang is 895mp.
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Post by kenken on Jun 8, 2017 4:09:53 GMT
What do you guys say about dex for beast knights that uses spec claw? I saw on a jp bk vid, his stats are str crt and some dex (i forgot how many but maybe 160?) altho i cant understand what his equips are but do you think dex is for RoR spec users? I wanna use stefly from str crt agi vit nail bk to str crt vit dex spec nail bk. Equips are, purity cerberus, boo dorry, f.helm rat, dcs noid. Thanks guys! Really need help T.T dont want to waste stat points again T.T and money xD
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Post by maximo24 on Jun 8, 2017 4:15:01 GMT
IMO only you should just invest your INT to your dex to counter the penalty from ROR which increases your delay due to DEX reduction. INT is indeed waste of stats and pots. I tried wearing sieger in my BK and my rapid fang is 895mp. Yeap was 800+cost but no matter what %of mp you have based on % soo example if the skill cost 10% of your max xp and you have 1000mp you will use 100mp that means you will use thwt skill 10 times if your mp is 10k thats going to cost you 1k each time so at the end you still use the skill the same amount times the only benefit i cant give to you is replenish your mp with less use of mp pots and maybe ill add to dex just to lower the skill delay but 0 skill delay is pointless on my point of view if you see the skill takes like 1 sec to hit and when you hit the target to run back you take like another 2 sec so the action will take around maybe 2.5 sec to used again i will say 0 if we have another skill to push your sell far away to spam rapid fang again then i will say 0 skill delay but with only gear i can spam all my skill with 0 dex and dex wont incr any stat for sp claw just what is ment to incr accuracy and delay but you already have enough with gears so i want to have litle more mp for impac blow not all the time i use rapid fang
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Post by 401 on Jun 8, 2017 4:32:33 GMT
need opinion guys, do we realy need vit? i mean when we use sword poww we turn into man of steel and when sauro blade l5 release we just like superman with body armor so maybe jp build lika str, crt, dex is quite effective in term of damage and defense, when u want max rapid fang use sp claw, when fight hard boss use sword and dex still make ur rapid fang damage great. but i dont know low level bk can survive without vit and agi
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2017 4:40:25 GMT
IMO only you should just invest your INT to your dex to counter the penalty from ROR which increases your delay due to DEX reduction. INT is indeed waste of stats and pots. I tried wearing sieger in my BK and my rapid fang is 895mp. Yeap was 800+cost but no matter what %of mp you have based on % soo example if the skill cost 10% of your max xp and you have 1000mp you will use 100mp that means you will use thwt skill 10 times if your mp is 10k thats going to cost you 1k each time so at the end you still use the skill the same amount times the only benefit i cant give to you is replenish your mp with less use of mp pots and maybe ill add to dex just to lower the skill delay but 0 skill delay is pointless on my point of view if you see the skill takes like 1 sec to hit and when you hit the target to run back you take like another 2 sec so the action will take around maybe 2.5 sec to used again i will say 0 if we have another skill to push your sell far away to spam rapid fang again then i will say 0 skill delay but with only gear i can spam all my skill with 0 dex and dex wont incr any stat for sp claw just what is ment to incr accuracy and delay but you already have enough with gears so i want to have litle more mp for impac blow not all the time i use rapid fang Theres actually a point in reducing delay, particularly when you solo, rapid fang despite on distance still able to stun although K.O rate varies on distance and thats a good clutch skill. Else, you can just simply put the excess stat in RD (If yelllow with 3 red to boost def, HP further.) , or GR for yellow thats has 3 green (to obtain further boost to absolute/magic evasion) and/or max damage for special claw. I am normal claw build and once I cap (Not so soon :/) my apos Ill share mine for reference too. Although I wont publishing in YT, so we can see the different flaws of different builds and share info to counter those flaws or to balance it.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2017 4:44:04 GMT
need opinion guys, do we realy need vit? i mean when we use sword poww we turn into man of steel and when sauro blade l5 release we just like superman with body armor so maybe jp build lika str, crt, dex is quite effective in term of damage and defense, when u want max rapid fang use sp claw, when fight hard boss use sword and dex still make ur rapid fang damage great. but i dont know low level bk can survive without vit and agi Effectiveness, indeed starts at high levels, but I don't see this as an issue for lower lvls, they just need to know how to balance things out.
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