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Post by Deleted on Dec 25, 2016 6:17:39 GMT
Hiya o.o/ EwPeople here. Magic Ninja with love for not-so-common builds XD
Anyway, I want to ask about the skill Joy and Sorrow. What's the formula for the heals? I've always thought it was 1% of HP and MP, but then there's the Rokoko tree buff which gives +100% auto recovery. With 15k HP and 4.2k MP, I get healed for 150 HP and 54 MP. With the tree buff, I got healed for 300 HP and 96 MP (values tested with only Joy and Sorrow buff on and CRT fortune; if it helps, my level is 226). I then tried it with Life Song and it raised to 697 HP and 98 MP heal (24k HP, 4.3k MP).
Frankly I'm confused about the formula XD but I want to know cuz if Regenerate abi works with the skill then...
Anyway, hope to get some answers *^*
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Post by pingrek on Dec 25, 2016 6:49:33 GMT
The heals are affected by natural recovery it seems so I would say regenerate abilities would increase the amount some, I'm no pro at minstrel so I may be wrong but I noticed that joy and sorrow healed more when I have miselatis equiped and it has natural recovery percentage, the other equip is evil dragon wings which only has skill delay
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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2016 12:33:31 GMT
I never know that Joy and Sorrow heal 1% of hp and mp. A new info for me despite being mins. XD. But I do know ability such as regenerate, some auto recovery/natural recovery on equip or from crysta does affect the recovery rate of joy and sorrow. Most obvious equip that really help minstrel with joy and sorrow is Jade Ricus.
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sefilyfii
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Post by sefilyfii on Dec 31, 2016 11:45:51 GMT
My friend Delta uses Jade ricus on all her minstrels is it that good ? And also I heard a rumour about if a minstrel uses a sword they get -1 sd is that true ?
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sefilyfii
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Sefily<3 Bishop 276, Mei<3 Hi wiz 300, Rory<3 Sin 260, Nanako<3,Milly<3,Enma Ai<3,Fuyumi<3,Akeno^.~
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Post by sefilyfii on Dec 31, 2016 11:46:10 GMT
My friend Delta uses Jade ricus on all her minstrels is it that good ? And also I heard a rumour about if a minstrel uses a sword they get -1 sd is that true ?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2016 13:14:25 GMT
Yes using Jade ricus is the best option to survive as minstrel especially when using Str/dex/crit build. Normal sword build somehow can increase survivality on early lvl for minstrel with spec such as myrica/nightscore. while using normal bow as best equip to deliver high dmg during pt. But as far as I know minstrel don't have any passive skills that state using sword reduce -1s.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2016 22:11:17 GMT
That waw just my assumption xD my bad on that part. Thanks for the replies o.o/
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Post by 『Acedia』 on Feb 18, 2017 20:51:54 GMT
good question  Joy and Sorrow info: Item recovery increases HP or MP is recovered 0.75 P/sec, depends on the user's Max HP&MP. Item recovery increases (forgot to test recovery increase maybe 5+10%  ) Skill Lv: 1 MP Cost: 200 MP Time: 30 sec Get: (Pilaneza Merchant) Notes: +1% of Hp or Mp depends what's lowest percentage Ex: ur a ninja w/ 1 hp Joy and Sorrow trigger's hp regen per sec till reach MP percentage before it regenerate MP hope it helps ya :"> |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2017 5:19:35 GMT
good question btw do you have any hp recovery items ? Joy and Sorrow info: Item recovery increases HP or MP is recovered twice each second, dependent on the user's MaxHP&MP Skill Lv:1 MP Cost: 200MP Time: 30 sec Get: (Pilaneza Merchant) Info: +10% of Hp or Mp depends what's lowest percentage Ex: ur a ninja w/ 1 hp Joy and Sorrow trigger's hp regen per sec till reach mp percentage before it regenerate ManaPoints hope it helps ya :"> check my blog: smlngmnstr.blogspot.com/
The "10% of HP or MP" thing seems to be the JnS heal but 10% seems too large. In my example (1st post) I got healed for 150 HP with 15k HP which is only 1% (10% would be 1.5k).
By HP recovery items do you mean Revitas or Regeras or both o.o?
And I will check out yer blog *-*/ |
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Post by sudipto(quit) on Feb 19, 2017 9:23:08 GMT
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Post by AizenSou [Quitting] on Feb 19, 2017 10:16:50 GMT
I don't really count the exact percentage of regen but one thing for sure is that Joy and Sorrow regens HP less than Bish's bless but since it's regen twice that of bless it's particularly stronger however Joy and Sorrow regens MP stronger than bless and since it's regen twice too it's far stronger. Both depends on the amount of HP and MP too, the larger your HP and MP are the stronger the regen would be.
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Post by 『Acedia』 on Feb 20, 2017 21:39:06 GMT
Info: +10% of Hp or Mp depends what's lowest percentage Ex: ur a ninja w/ 1 hp Joy and Sorrow trigger's hp regen per sec till reach mp percentage before it regenerate ManaPoints
The "10% of HP or MP" thing seems to be the JnS heal but 10% seems too large. In my example (1st post) I got healed for 150 HP with 15k HP which is only 1% (10% would be 1.5k).
By HP recovery items do you mean Revitas or Regeras or both o.o?
And I will check out yer blog *-*/fail fail fail :< sorry sorry it should be 1%  but forgot to recheck imma edit that right now hehe
By "dependent on user's MaxHP&MP" does that mean it determines the amount of heal or which to heal? → Which to heal amount of regen stack on "natural/hp recovery effect(eg: ◇ Specia, ◇ Ghoulie, ▲ Giant Ape, ▲ Muscle etc)" |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2017 5:08:57 GMT
By "dependent on user's MaxHP&MP" does that mean it determines the amount of heal or which to heal?
The "10% of HP or MP" thing seems to be the JnS heal but 10% seems too large. In my example (1st post) I got healed for 150 HP with 15k HP which is only 1% (10% would be 1.5k).
By HP recovery items do you mean Revitas or Regeras or both o.o?
And I will check out yer blog *-*/ fail fail fail :< sorry sorry it should be 1% but forgot to recheck imma edit that right now hehe
By "dependent on user's MaxHP&MP" does that mean it determines the amount of heal or which to heal? → Which to heal amount of regen stack on "natural/hp recovery effect(eg: ◇ Specia, ◇ Ghoulie, ▲ Giant Ape, ▲ Muscle etc)" |
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Post by 『Acedia』 on Feb 21, 2017 19:50:55 GMT
fail fail fail :< sorry sorry it should be 1% but forgot to recheck imma edit that right now hehe
By "dependent on user's MaxHP&MP" does that mean it determines the amount of heal or which to heal? → Which to heal amount of regen stack on "natural/hp recovery effect(eg: ◇ Specia, ◇ Ghoulie, ▲ Giant Ape, ▲ Muscle etc)" no problem  nya nya nya \OuO/ |
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but forgot to recheck 