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Post by arki on Nov 2, 2016 20:10:22 GMT
If only we also had a way to raise Abs Eva to uber levels as well... You barely need any absolute eva as is. Even with the highest crt rate, a boss would crit 30% of the time, that's pretty easy to cover with just Yang Ninja Garb, Hard Baselard and green lines. Right, which is perfect for a Deathblow spammer build, making them an even more viable buildpath. Especially now that there is an upcoming Spec that gives high ATK aside from ROR and DStone (Killing Seed). I guess not having high absolute eva is a necessary weakness for BS Sins, though, and that's perfectly understandable, since we still get 900+ eva without AGI and a boatload of Magic Eva as well.
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Flarius
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What do people do with all the extra time they save by writing "K" instead of "OK"?
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Post by Flarius on Nov 3, 2016 3:02:38 GMT
In soloing,vit will cover the lack of abs evd,and now u also got dmg by vit stats with special throw @.@
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Post by Blue on Nov 3, 2016 17:20:28 GMT
I think sin is safe. Personally i prefer pting with assassin instead of a ninja (even if they deal high amounts of dmg) because sin brings more to the table instead of ninja. Sin brings very nice dmg, pt buffs, and start with stun on a boss. Also they don't complain as much as nin...
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Post by mokie on Nov 3, 2016 19:04:42 GMT
I just have a pt with my guild-mate SK ninja. I found out that there can do only around 2.25 million damage in 5 sec. 600k, 750k, and 900k before they clone and wait a moment. On the other hand, I can do at least 350k per sec with 33% probability to get double attack. So, my damage is around 2.3 million in 5 sec. It is pretty close. And of course with scarius, my damage at very first 5 sec is better.
I just see the weakness of keeping clone for SK ninja.
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Post by cutexdeadly on Nov 29, 2016 7:19:30 GMT
Don't forget unlike ninjas with SK need to keep up with clones, assassins need to get behind mobs to do the highest dmg possible with BS.That yet make ninjas look more OP despite the clone problem. While assassins spending there time to get behind mobs(lol), ninjas can simply make clones and start hitting.
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Post by AnTz on Nov 29, 2016 10:47:22 GMT
I think this is still understandable, since in every MMO I know, assassin is usually the highest dps melee class, and.. yes, in iruna, assassin STILL the highest dps melee class. Dont forget that ninja is considered as magic class in iruna. Try ring that give bonus stat based on warrior/mage class (i forget the ring name) to confirm. So, although they have physical skill too, ninja is more wisely to be compared with high wizard in term of mage class damage
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Post by cutexdeadly on Nov 29, 2016 11:36:33 GMT
I think this is still understandable, since in every MMO I know, assassin is usually the highest dps melee class, and.. yes, in iruna, assassin STILL the highest dps melee class. Dont forget that ninja is considered as magic class in iruna. Try ring that give bonus stat based on warrior/mage class (i forget the ring name) to confirm. So, although they have physical skill too, ninja is more wisely to be compared with high wizard in term of mage class damage Ninja is more like a hybrid class.Not just magic or just physical atk.But does highest dmg out of physical atk skills like DoC and SK. Yet can only focus on one skill, either DoC or SK at a time to do highest dmg.
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Post by 4lb3rto5 on Dec 3, 2016 15:37:15 GMT
As far as solo assassin here is my experience: Since the ninja class was out so many change to due the clones, survival etc. Later on when sicarius was out a lot of people start to make assassins just for sicarius. Now silent kill is out everyone wants to become ninja. I guess is just a wave. As far as Flarius said some of the soloers found out how to survive. Not the damagers or pty dependent. Most people think assassins are pty dependent. My sincere opinion is no. I just capped soloing at yardes and it was cool. Way faster than a pty in 3 eye (my target is to solo there too) I guess the secret is to take advantage in our main skills of evasion and focus on deal fast damage. Even for last mq i found i can 'tank' or get nice ptys as assassin for my survival al decent damage and even abvove the sk ninjas looking for pty. I still hope asobimo give us aour aoe as they give it on ios. That can make a difference for us.
My mensage my fellow assassin: we will survive and we'll keep proud as assassins as the few, the proud, the best!
Hello to master Flarius and Biramza.
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Post by Akame on Dec 6, 2016 7:54:23 GMT
Don't forget unlike ninjas with SK need to keep up with clones, assassins need to get behind mobs to do the highest dmg possible with BS.That yet make ninjas look more OP despite the clone problem. While assassins spending there time to get behind mobs(lol), ninjas can simply make clones and start hitting. Us sins can actually stand directly in the middle of a target mob/boss and bs all day long it's actually the way I like to do it as opposed to running to the back every attack.
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mokie
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Post by mokie on Dec 9, 2016 5:38:23 GMT
Now, sin comes back. The new patch is so awesome.
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Post by Akame on Dec 10, 2016 1:09:43 GMT
Now, sin comes back. The new patch is so awesome. Imo it didn't make a difference whether the patch happened or not sins the true sins will keep playing it and experimenting new ways to get the job done weather you want to be a lone wolf or pt reliant glass cannon(not so much anymore with assault buff) tbh I think we're going to see and hear some pretty interesting things with new builds or people not even needing lone wolf to solo for sin after 240 because of the buff. I think the few of us left who are true to the job assassin should all have a meet and greet or something just to see the turnout of whos who and what their gears, builds etc are think it would be interesting seeing as the sin section here is kind of dead.
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mokie
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Post by mokie on Dec 10, 2016 22:55:13 GMT
Now, sin comes back. The new patch is so awesome. Imo it didn't make a difference whether the patch happened or not sins the true sins will keep playing it and experimenting new ways to get the job done weather you want to be a lone wolf or pt reliant glass cannon(not so much anymore with assault buff) tbh I think we're going to see and hear some pretty interesting things with new builds or people not even needing lone wolf to solo for sin after 240 because of the buff. I think the few of us left who are true to the job assassin should all have a meet and greet or something just to see the turnout of whos who and what their gears, builds etc are think it would be interesting seeing as the sin section here is kind of dead. When you talk about new build, now I guess all materials are ready for int.>crt>str build. Sins can shorten delay without any dex! And,assault+stun can make sin so awesome. I can kill Ouvel before stun ran off now. This is so awesome.
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Post by Crysta|'s hubby on Dec 11, 2016 8:00:12 GMT
Imo it didn't make a difference whether the patch happened or not sins the true sins will keep playing it and experimenting new ways to get the job done weather you want to be a lone wolf or pt reliant glass cannon(not so much anymore with assault buff) tbh I think we're going to see and hear some pretty interesting things with new builds or people not even needing lone wolf to solo for sin after 240 because of the buff. I think the few of us left who are true to the job assassin should all have a meet and greet or something just to see the turnout of whos who and what their gears, builds etc are think it would be interesting seeing as the sin section here is kind of dead. When you talk about new build, now I guess all materials are ready for int.>crt>str build. Sins can shorten delay without any dex! And,assault+stun can make sin so awesome. I can kill Ouvel before stun ran off now. This is so awesome. O.O"is it possible to shorten SD to -1 sec with no Dex without sacrificing too much? I'm still new to assassin so idk whether it is or not XD
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mokie
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Post by mokie on Dec 11, 2016 8:03:15 GMT
When you talk about new build, now I guess all materials are ready for int.>crt>str build. Sins can shorten delay without any dex! And,assault+stun can make sin so awesome. I can kill Ouvel before stun ran off now. This is so awesome. O.O"is it possible to shorten SD to -1 sec with no Dex without sacrificing too much? I'm still new to assassin so idk whether it is or not XD Still having to sacrifice 3%atk by using qc5 and 4. That give me an opportunity to use eventail 2s.
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Post by Crysta|'s hubby on Dec 11, 2016 8:06:06 GMT
Well I did say without too much :v 3% atk doesn't seem like much seeing as that's a lot more points to dex
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