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Post by SunPatso on Oct 14, 2016 11:07:54 GMT
Well, i have another idea for nail sin. Pretty much the same idea as nail bish
Int Agi Crt Vit 100bl 6Purple 2Blue Apos/ 4Purple 4Blue
Snead Claw 2 ◇Seele Zauga 2 Dragon Mail reup ◇Seele Zauga 2 Sieger Plate ◇Pole Pex Earring
Pros:
-Highest Evasion ingame -High poison damage -High Deathblow damage
Cons:
-Low hp -Double attack messes up with autoskills
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skeewi
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Post by skeewi on Oct 14, 2016 12:25:54 GMT
Well, i have another idea for nail sin. Pretty much the same idea as nail bish Int Agi Crt Vit 100bl 6Purple 2Blue Apos/ 4Purple 4Blue Snead Claw 2 ◇Seele Zauga 2 Dragon Mail reup ◇Seele Zauga 2 Sieger Plate ◇Pole Pex Earring Pros: -Highest Evasion ingame -High poison damage -High Deathblow damage Cons: -Low hp -Double attack messes up with autoskills Double attack is seriously gonna mess with pex/snead procs, so I honestly think you'd be better off replacing Pex earring with something else and focus on Deathblow damage. Sins also have pretty low base mp, so int+7 would end up giving more mp than Seele 2. Also the last weakness to this build, deathblow damage is still based on how much remaining mp you have. Keeping your mp high to maximize damage is gonna be just a little bit hard.
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Post by addictux on Oct 14, 2016 13:56:02 GMT
Well, i have another idea for nail sin. Pretty much the same idea as nail bish Int Agi Crt Vit 100bl 6Purple 2Blue Apos/ 4Purple 4Blue Snead Claw 2 ◇Seele Zauga 2 Dragon Mail reup ◇Seele Zauga 2 Sieger Plate ◇Pole Pex Earring Pros: -Highest Evasion ingame -High poison damage -High Deathblow damage Cons: -Low hp -Double attack messes up with autoskills ◇ Seele Zauga II [Crystas] Effect: MaxMP +30%, Melee R -10%, Magic R -10% Snead Claw II [Claws] Effect: ATK: 280 Magic R -20% non-attribute Add to attack the physical +25% Critical damage +15% MaxMP +25% probability Notes: ATK = Snead Claw +? Blacksmith Snead Claw II Material 1: Snead Claw x1 Material 2: Heavenly ax blade x1 Material 3: Cloudy Magic Stone x30 Material 4: Claws of tiger x60 Price: 450,000 Mioreita Castle ◇ Pole [Crystas] Effect: INT +5 Autoskill +3%, Adds Spell burst +10% and Autoskill +2% on Additional. Sieger Plate [Additional] Effect: DEF: 24-30 VIT +24 INT +18 Melee and Magic R +10% Stan in damage reduction +5% abnormal resistance +10% Pex Pierce [Special] Effect: DEF: 0-3 ATK is when a little increase Magic R -30% attack in the STR, additional attack with probability Notes: Additional damage = current MP × 70% - consumption trigger percent about 25-30% the MP10 at the time of enemy DEF additional trigger Monsters Bull Statue (Lv277) Drop: Pex Pierce, Big Horn, Stone Fragment, Well-Shaped Stone Attribute: Earth Weakness: Wind Aggression: Active Experience: 26944 Rofesi Temple is this the spec? anyway seeing seele zauga II and snead i have a lot of magi r- i feel like i'll suffer but i think bosses hit a lot of physical than magical and this might just doesn't burn mp pots might also hp pots i like to try this one (specially the nail bish also i saw a nail ench xD). but i might stick with using maniji and maybe i'll use hcb up. i don't get why autoskill mess with double attack?. as armor i'll go use ira/d.mail up if i'm rich or lucky i'll use ultimi up. spec idk what to get yet. what i had in mind in using was maniji up, ira/ultimi/d.mail up, dai/g.ring up, volk shoes/ror. as of to nail sin which would be a lot better dmg or evasion? if evation maybe this will be the best i mean you're equips for dmg maybe what i mentioned. NOTE: i'm starting to get confused again but it's kinda ok it means i can try a lot more also if it doesn't work well i still have other nail class in mind also i'm not rich so i'm kinda looking for permanent equips.
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Nyx
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Post by Nyx on Oct 14, 2016 15:19:07 GMT
Whenever double attack procs, other autoskills won't proc. That's it. So ur Snead claw and pex earring and any such autoskill won't proc whenever double attack procs. So having double attack will lower your damage,and you can do nothing about it because double attack is in built into warriors. That's it. Double attack+autoskill= can't reach max damage potential.
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Post by mokie on Oct 14, 2016 16:23:37 GMT
ow yeah on the vid i posted here i comment on his vid he says he use maniji up and hcb up and on the vid he use d.claw and the add that has mp rec chance also use high speed motor with wol. i've seen stats on wol but i still dont get why using chb/d.claw would be bad because of cancels double attack? if it does cancel double attack could it be that wol is the one doing the double attack?. Auto-skills does not cancel double attack, but double attack cancel auto-skills. You can use auto-skill gear, but you have to have low crt.
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Post by addictux on Oct 15, 2016 8:30:39 GMT
Whenever double attack procs, other autoskills won't proc. That's it. So ur Snead claw and pex earring and any such autoskill won't proc whenever double attack procs. So having double attack will lower your damage,and you can do nothing about it because double attack is in built into warriors. That's it. Double attack+autoskill= can't reach max damage potential. double attack lowers dmg? anyway it's like cancelling each other and not gonna proc alternately?.
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Post by addictux on Oct 15, 2016 8:32:53 GMT
ow yeah on the vid i posted here i comment on his vid he says he use maniji up and hcb up and on the vid he use d.claw and the add that has mp rec chance also use high speed motor with wol. i've seen stats on wol but i still dont get why using chb/d.claw would be bad because of cancels double attack? if it does cancel double attack could it be that wol is the one doing the double attack?. Auto-skills does not cancel double attack, but double attack cancel auto-skills. You can use auto-skill gear, but you have to have low crt. i'm kinda getting it now so since d.claw or hcb procs increase via autoskill right? there is a lesser chance of it being proc because of double attack? also does autoskill increase proc of double attack?.
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mokie
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Post by mokie on Oct 15, 2016 20:11:34 GMT
Auto-skills does not cancel double attack, but double attack cancel auto-skills. You can use auto-skill gear, but you have to have low crt. i'm kinda getting it now so since d.claw or hcb procs increase via autoskill right? there is a lesser chance of it being proc because of double attack? also does autoskill increase proc of double attack?. Yes, that's absolutely correct. The rate will be like, for example if I have 70% double attack rate and I am wearing d.claw2, my double attack rate will be 70+5% while my absorption rate would be 35% of the 25% left of non-double attack, or around less than 10%.
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Post by addictux on Oct 16, 2016 11:03:22 GMT
i'm kinda getting it now so since d.claw or hcb procs increase via autoskill right? there is a lesser chance of it being proc because of double attack? also does autoskill increase proc of double attack?. Yes, that's absolutely correct. The rate will be like, for example if I have 70% double attack rate and I am wearing d.claw2, my double attack rate will be 70+5% while my absorption rate would be 35% of the 25% left of non-double attack, or around less than 10%. that seems complicated xD. anyway i remember the guy on the vid says his crt is around 180 and maybe he left it at that and continue do str agi for survival and he said he use maniji and hcb up having that stat. i rewatch the vid and maybe i need to rewatch it again xD.
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Post by Umaru-chan on Oct 16, 2016 11:15:04 GMT
Double attack really messes up autoskills so i think its more rational to focus on atk+/crt dmg+% gears like what Gladiators do Just based on experience/opinion i recommend the following: Ceduro claw for universal set or better if you can collect elemental claws Ultimi Re Up> Ira up(heavy agi w/ some str) = bellow S(balance agi/str) magonza or iniliba Purple cat ears Raton or if you could counter the penalties, Daiginjo up would be better i guess? Then addgear w/raton or elemental xtals Slot spec Beelzenoid
Yellow lines for Apostolia
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Post by addictux on Oct 17, 2016 7:00:18 GMT
Double attack really messes up autoskills so i think its more rational to focus on atk+/crt dmg+% gears like what Gladiators do Just based on experience/opinion i recommend the following: Ceduro claw for universal set or better if you can collect elemental claws Ultimi Re Up> Ira up(heavy agi w/ some str) = bellow S(balance agi/str) magonza or iniliba Purple cat ears Raton or if you could counter the penalties, Daiginjo up would be better i guess? Then addgear w/raton or elemental xtals Slot spec Beelzenoid Yellow lines for Apostolia i'll look these things up and yellow lines dmg?.
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Post by addictux on Oct 17, 2016 7:00:45 GMT
btw im liking deathblow spam with maniji. kinda not much spam or something.
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Post by addictux on Oct 17, 2016 7:13:52 GMT
Bellow of Order [Armor] Effect: DEF: 25-29 Melee and Magic R +12%, ATK up by STR, MATK up by INT, Skill delay -1 sec, damage cut chance by defense Notes: For every STR, ATK +1, for every INT, MATK +1
Monsters Gatekeeper (Lv360) Drop: Spatial Fragment, Goddess Feather, Bellow of Order, ▲ Gatekeeper Attribute: None→Dark→Light Weakness: None→Light→Dark Aggression: Passive Experience: 400000 Elemapati the Chamber of Space
◇ Iniliba [Crystas] Effect: When the defense, at the time of equipment to damage mitigation body with probability, Autoskills of ATK · MATK +10% ※ equipped place will disappear Notes: Note:? When equipped body, Lv minute Melee increase Melee R +% Magic R +10%
Purple Cat Ears [Additional] Effect: DEF: 9 ATK: 7 CRT +5 Improved Critical physical and magic through +10% Halloween period Critical damage +5% Notes: Trade ×
i'm a little bit not liking it maybe i'll go use asura stole up
Asura Stole (Strengthened 1) [Additional] Effect: DEF: 3-7 ATK: 27 ATK +4% Critical damage +6% Absolute & Magic evasion +7% Item recovery -10%
Blacksmith Asura Stole (Strengthened 1) Material 1: Asura Stole x1 Material 2: Torn Apron x1 Material 3: Werewolf Fur x1 Material 4: Sharp Tail x1 Price: 150,000 Underground Bailune
or dai up as to spec i wonder about d.stone i saw it's info said -20% hp? and some says dmg up by low vit?
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Post by addictux on Oct 26, 2016 7:02:37 GMT
Double attack really messes up autoskills so i think its more rational to focus on atk+/crt dmg+% gears like what Gladiators do Just based on experience/opinion i recommend the following: Ceduro claw for universal set or better if you can collect elemental claws Ultimi Re Up> Ira up(heavy agi w/ some str) = bellow S(balance agi/str) magonza or iniliba Purple cat ears Raton or if you could counter the penalties, Daiginjo up would be better i guess? Then addgear w/raton or elemental xtals Slot spec Beelzenoid Yellow lines for Apostolia yellow lines consisting of? and any slot spec? beelzenoid xtal? would wol be bad? as of armo ultimi up is harder to get than ira and d.mail final up or upping it take some time etc. . . so buying is a bit expensive x.x as of add i think barbarotita and when i have high enough crt and tech abi i'll use dai.
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Nyx
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Post by Nyx on Oct 26, 2016 9:05:03 GMT
Double attack really messes up autoskills so i think its more rational to focus on atk+/crt dmg+% gears like what Gladiators do Just based on experience/opinion i recommend the following: Ceduro claw for universal set or better if you can collect elemental claws Ultimi Re Up> Ira up(heavy agi w/ some str) = bellow S(balance agi/str) magonza or iniliba Purple cat ears Raton or if you could counter the penalties, Daiginjo up would be better i guess? Then addgear w/raton or elemental xtals Slot spec Beelzenoid Yellow lines for Apostolia yellow lines consisting of? and any slot spec? beelzenoid xtal? would wol be bad? as of armo ultimi up is harder to get than ira and d.mail final up or upping it take some time etc. . . so buying is a bit expensive x.x as of add i think barbarotita and when i have high enough crt and tech abi i'll use dai. wol has autoskill that causes you to attack twice.... Which won't proc much cuz u have double attack passive from being a warrior. So it's probably a waste.
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