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Post by Almas on Sept 11, 2016 13:05:03 GMT
Then in that case, they will do have to re-do bless every 6 minutes. "I will rebuff Bless every 6 minutes" - said no bot ever. This info is based on what? Asked everyone around? It just annoys me that this guy thinks the idea of using 1 MPCost for bots is so outrageous that they have to call me out for it. And calling my idea stupid. Probably not familiar how boards work? We share ideas here. Not call other people's ideas stupid just because you don't agree with them. And as much as possible, we avoid misinformation here. I wouldn't mind if someone else called me out for having a bad idea and gave a better solution. It's part of learning. Fyi. And back to this thread: it's not very expensive to make a 1MPCost Nemesis set. 1MPCost + 1sec Resurrection is whole diffetent story though (which is the main topic of this thread. I know cause I've done 1 MP Cost Nemesis before. Idk how they manage to have unlimited MP, but MP does drain when you continuously spam Nemesis and do not have Bless on (for the record I am not on SH either). And if you're into tapping mindlessly, and not paying attention to buffs then 1 MPCost + Cracked Mage Ore does wonders. Just need patience to farm Thrift 3 from the mobs before Magonza if I remember correctly. Bud ring's super cheap too. And you can get up to -20% from levels 5, 4 and 3 MPCost abis that are very common from raid. Of course you'll run out of mp if you do not have bless on. It's like wondering why you die without getting healed/using pots. But if you're talking about making 1mp cost nemesis, then it might work but you quoted and we're referring to someone else's gear suggestion which meant you're referring to that set.
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Post by Eaysley on Sept 11, 2016 13:06:47 GMT
Then in that case, they will do have to re-do bless every 6 minutes. "I will rebuff Bless every 6 minutes" - said no bot ever. It just annoys me that this guy thinks the idea of using 1 MPCost for bots is so outrageous that they have to call me out for it. And calling my idea stupid. Probably not familiar how boards work? We share ideas here. Not call other people's ideas stupid just because you don't agree with them. Fyi. And back to this thread: it's not very expensive to make a 1MPCost Nemesis set. 1MPCost + 1sec Resurrection is whole diffetent story though (which is the main topic of this thread. I know cause I've done 1 MP Cost Nemesis before. Idk how they manage to have unlimited MP, but MP does drain when you continuously spam Nemesis and do not have Bless on (for the record I am not on SH either). And if you're into tapping mindlessly, and not paying attention to buffs then 1 MPCost + Cracked Mage Ore does wonders. Just need patience to farm Thrift 3 from the mobs before Magonza if I remember correctly. Bud ring's super cheap too. And you can get up to -20% from levels 5, 4 and 3 MPCost abis that are very common from raid. bots are repetitive. record a 6 minute bot thing and put it on replay. the bot thing will press bless once every 6 minute. botters don't have to check their character to bless themselves. nor use mp cost set or cracked mage ore or anything. Lmao really? All that argument with Almas just because I don't understand how bot works. You can't really blame me for it I've never used an auto-tap app before. *facepalm* My farmer buddy must have been using a shitty app then because he only said it only locks a tap to one screen location. I never really asked about it too much cuz I'm happy as long as he sends me production materials.
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Post by Eaysley on Sept 11, 2016 13:10:41 GMT
im thinking, tellas kagan mpc 5- delay -1.5, mpc -40% (@level 300) tentacion mbro qc abi- delay -3.1 ardour canchez rossam mpc 4- delay -2, mpc-58% accesory mpc 3 - mpc-6% jog qc abi- delay-0.6 al lines: sauro II parazaia gate guard, bergen, jusal gate keeper, biflog enina 2 with this, high budjet, low mpc from the get go, delay -7+ just from gears alone. leaving you more al options to increase heal, light magic up for nemesis , parazaia will help you mp pool for quick skill. because it adds mp regen, light magic up also helps bright heal, yea its expensive but why settle for meh when theres better. save up and aim for this set (or better). tbh this set is around 1b. which aint bad. lemme know if anyone can think up something better owo This is almost the same set I use which I've placed in my youtube channel in a while. Well using spirit plume then cause there's no Ardour yet at that time. As per my tests (forgot exact level but 300+) Tellas gave me 15% mp cost reduction. Tested this by removing mp cost reducing abilities and checking cost and it seemed correct at that time. Let's meet ingame. I'll introduce you. I normally get in touch with them every weekends. But then again I don't want them to get in trouble so maybe you can promise not to screencap or whatever. For the record, my low level bishop , L270 can do Nemesis with 20k+ damage with my old low MPcost set, I used that when I did Broken Engine (because I didn't wanna bother buffing) I don't see why you think it's so far fetched for bots to use 1 MPCost while you know, botting that you're so hellbent on disproving me? Leaving characters for hours without worrying about MP? Why is it stupid? Do you even understand? It makes sense you'd want 1 MP cost if you want to leave your bot without refreshing bless every 6 minutes. If you do not have 1/low mpcost or bless and leave your bot, the bot's MP will drain. Cluelessness - wow, you make this app sound like rocket science, Mr. Pro. Hate to be the one to tell you it, it's not. I don't wanna pick a fight with you or even have an argument with you for that matter (which you started btw), but it just comes off rather you assume that there are no other ways to do stuff but yours. And do you even read how you reply to me? Little aggresive bra? Calm your tidbits. On second thought I decided not to. I mean if I were you and I wanna prove something I can just ask someone else to say they're using mp cost set. Let's seeeeee. In your previous posts, you said something about OP giving ideas to botters. I disproved you and you followed it up with a rant about them botting at high price special equipment areas. I disproved you again after I tested it on my bishop that it's not doable with 1 hit while using mp cost. Then you continued justifying it which is kinda funny. I am not saying because I can't, others cannot do it. It's just that I'm not that nub either to not be able to give a reasonable comment about bishop. So there's that. If you are botting, why be bothered by refreshing less? Heck you're botting and you're bothered with it? Wow. I don't wanna imagine what else bothers you when you're not botting. Still not getting the point? It's not rocket science that's why people know how to use bless. Blesssssssssssss. And for the record, I am calm. Lmao. Stop with your assumptions please. If my words offended you then apologies, didn't plan it to come that way. But really, tell your friend to use bless. I will only forgive you if you send me 40 virgins by midnight. Loljk no worries. You just got into my nerves. I may have overreacted a little, so my apologies too. 40 virgins on your way. I was talking about auto-taps/bots and I didn't know sht about it. Tamagu sort of cleared it already.
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Post by Almas on Sept 11, 2016 13:12:13 GMT
bots are repetitive. record a 6 minute bot thing and put it on replay. the bot thing will press bless once every 6 minute. botters don't have to check their character to bless themselves. nor use mp cost set or cracked mage ore or anything. Lmao really? All that argument with Almas just because I don't understand how bot works. You can't really blame me for it I've never used an auto-tap app before. *facepalm* My farmer buddy must have been using a shitty app then because he only said it only locks a tap to one screen location. I never really asked about it too much cuz I'm happy as long as he sends me production materials. Wow, you tried to insinuate about hating botters cause they're dropping special equipment prices but you're supporting one. So you like bots as long as they work for you. You do not, otherwise. Might as well use one.
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Post by Almas on Sept 11, 2016 13:13:15 GMT
Peace.
OP getting mad at us.
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Post by Eaysley on Sept 11, 2016 13:13:41 GMT
Lmao really? All that argument with Almas just because I don't understand how bot works. You can't really blame me for it I've never used an auto-tap app before. *facepalm* My farmer buddy must have been using a shitty app then because he only said it only locks a tap to one screen location. I never really asked about it too much cuz I'm happy as long as he sends me production materials. Wow, you tried to insinuate about hating botters cause they're dropping special equipment prices but you're supporting one. So you like bots as long as they work for you. You do not, otherwise. Might as well use one. No thanks.
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Post by Tamagu on Sept 11, 2016 13:17:48 GMT
bots are repetitive. record a 6 minute bot thing and put it on replay. the bot thing will press bless once every 6 minute. botters don't have to check their character to bless themselves. nor use mp cost set or cracked mage ore or anything. Lmao really? All that argument with Almas just because I don't understand how bot works. You can't really blame me for it I've never used an auto-tap app before. *facepalm* My farmer buddy must have been using a shitty app then because he only said it only locks a tap to one screen location. I never really asked about it too much cuz I'm happy as long as he sends me production materials. i'm not arguing with you. o.o i'm just saying i don't think bots will use 1mpc set and give up on higher damage and risk the chance of dying. i recently watched a video on youtube of a ninja botting at ganei, that's why i know how bots work. but oh well, since you assumed bots were a 1-tap application, it's fair enough. guess i assumed everyone knew how bots work. gomenasai, my bad.
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Post by Eaysley on Sept 11, 2016 13:19:48 GMT
Lmao really? All that argument with Almas just because I don't understand how bot works. You can't really blame me for it I've never used an auto-tap app before. *facepalm* My farmer buddy must have been using a shitty app then because he only said it only locks a tap to one screen location. I never really asked about it too much cuz I'm happy as long as he sends me production materials. i'm not arguing with you. o.o i'm just saying i don't think bots will use 1mpc set and give up on higher damage and risk the chance of dying. i recently watched a video on youtube of a ninja botting at ganei, that's why i know how bots work. but oh well, since you assumed bots were a 1-tap application, it's fair enough. guess i assumed everyone knew how bots work. gomenasai, my bad. Can you link me to the video? For educational purposes. Thanks. Edit: is it this one?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 11, 2016 14:36:03 GMT
Man things escalated quickly o.o
I also do not know how bots worked specifically. All I know is they repeat stuff.
May your thread be more peaceful after this post Variz u.u
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Post by Variz on Sept 11, 2016 14:54:40 GMT
Please if admin want Delete something, just Delete their Posts
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Post by nic123 on Sept 11, 2016 17:07:25 GMT
personally i use almost the same set nic has mentioned. tellas kagan qc1 tentacion thrift 3 mpc5 ardour cachenez thrift 3 (planning to get gentleness5) bud ring mezzaluna qc1 i just use my usual apostalia page i use for nemesis (cheltil, para, biflog, enina 2, crap al) i never use my 1mpc set to nemesis because it will be way too low for me to one-shot higher level mobs. i only use it during farms and buffing. o.o My Level is still low so i cant use Tellas yet, even if my level have Reached -15% Mpc of Tellas, i still stick with Valida xD just -2% Mpc, i can use a lv1 Mp Cost Abi Whats in my mind, how i can make 1 Mp Cost with a Minimum Budget but still can do Almost like High Budget People I think its almost Impossible, make a 1 Mp Cost set (but i Believe, you can make <50 Mp Cost Nemesis Set) but still can do Decent Damage, unless you got Lost Article Monsters Buff XD nothing to good is cheap my friend haha, u cant want a low budjet set that does similar to a high budjet one, else evryone would use low budjet set. as for the neme. how about all mpc abis= -30% and pole talisman mezza = -10%, and an add is coming in a few maps called taenia beret which is delay-1, matk+14%, mpc-18%, thats -58% bro. with great neme still.
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Post by nic123 on Sept 11, 2016 17:10:21 GMT
as for the set i came up with earlier, i did no prior research and just rememered the gears off my head.
im sure if u look into it u can repllace the more expesive stuff for cheap stuff.
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Post by Tamagu on Sept 11, 2016 19:09:04 GMT
i think if you really want to make a low mp cost yet still manage to have average nemesis damage set, using only tellas, ardour cachenez and mp cost abilities would suffice. obviously skip any gears/crystals/al that are mp consuming. and skip any quick cool abilities if they are only level 1 so that matk doesn't get reduced much.
wish we had more stuff like parazaia that has both matk+% and mp recovery. T^T)..
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Post by bikini on Sept 11, 2016 21:41:48 GMT
raspamiro 2 is -40% mpc for who can use, bud ring its -15% mpc for cheap or luster ring -10%mpc. For weapon i like and use archi kagan. support Al page can use mpc -6% and -3%. For low lv bish heal is a problem but not for 320+, with my set 15k heal3, Miselatis -1sd and 1k heal +1%(up will be 1500+5%)
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Post by Famine on Sept 23, 2016 19:28:47 GMT
Sure much? You can't doesn't mean anyone else can't. You not doing it doesn't mean anyone else wont. Your point is? Maybe not for Gigantes but a lot of bots use 1/low mpcost sets. Once in a while you can see them in logs area too. You can tell they're auto tappers because they stop when notified by a friend request. Ror go for as low as 1.7 to 1.8 now. Same with Myrica. Aas as low as 800m. Yes I am very very sure. You see Gigantes is Dark and I dealt 40-50K. That is dark element. Don't wanna imagine how it's gonna be on mobs possessing other element. Almost 1 hit but the thing is if you're an auto-tapper, what's so difficult in blessing yourself? Seen how fast bless ticks is? Only time a bishop runs out of mp on mob farms is if he's speedhacking or spellboosting nonstop. Can even counter Spellboost's mp cost increase with some abis. I know Famine posted about it before. Maybe they use at low level mobs but it's pointless. Lol. 72 mp cost. Some bishop even have 300+ mp ticks. Why the heck would you go sporting an mp cost pew pewing mobs. And I'm curious as to how you're able to figure they're using mp cost anyway? Lmao. Mailed them and they told you? Wow. But I'm not saying because I can't do it, others can't. Or because I'm not doing it, others aren't doing it. But this I am sure, no bishop that I know is that stupid. Yeah, that's how much I've seen them too. I'd just like to say, I'm over 500mp bless ticks now o.o
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