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Post by sandimailana on Sept 11, 2016 10:05:59 GMT
Just saying that sending a pt/friend request will make a popup show and if they're auto tapping, that popup will get in the way and they won't be able to notice they're not tapping a skill so their char would stop doing anything o.o I dun like fights either. Debates and the like are things I welcome tho XD
Also sandimailana, AFAIK range+ means that your weapon will have bonus range and you can attack/buff from further away. I don't see it making you autoattack especially when you're spamming skills every second and you're far away at the back supporting your party. Correct me if I'm wrong o.o Yes,wrong I tested Moonlight bow for set resu & i'm only attack bos And i'm test Caterina rod for spam resu ( Caterina rod have stat range+1 ),can't focus spam resu because i'm only attack bos
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Post by Deleted on Sept 11, 2016 10:08:32 GMT
Just saying that sending a pt/friend request will make a popup show and if they're auto tapping, that popup will get in the way and they won't be able to notice they're not tapping a skill so their char would stop doing anything o.o I dun like fights either. Debates and the like are things I welcome tho XD
Also sandimailana, AFAIK range+ means that your weapon will have bonus range and you can attack/buff from further away. I don't see it making you autoattack especially when you're spamming skills every second and you're far away at the back supporting your party. Correct me if I'm wrong o.o Yes,wrong I tested Moonlight bow for set resu & i'm only attack bos And i'm test Caterina rod for spam resu ( Caterina rod have stat range+1 ),can't focus spam resu because i'm only attack bos Well my bishop uses Archbish and Heal Staff (no range+) and it happens to me too o.o
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Post by sandimailana on Sept 11, 2016 10:09:57 GMT
Yes,wrong I tested Moonlight bow for set resu & i'm only attack bos And i'm test Caterina rod for spam resu ( Caterina rod have stat range+1 ),can't focus spam resu because i'm only attack bos Well my bishop uses Archbish and Heal Staff (no range+) and it happens to me too o.oNah archbishop & heal staff good for set heal & spam resu
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Eaysley
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Post by Eaysley on Sept 11, 2016 10:40:14 GMT
Sure much? You can't doesn't mean anyone else can't. You not doing it doesn't mean anyone else wont. Your point is? Maybe not for Gigantes but a lot of bots use 1/low mpcost sets. Once in a while you can see them in logs area too. You can tell they're auto tappers because they stop when notified by a friend request. Ror go for as low as 1.7 to 1.8 now. Same with Myrica. Aas as low as 800m. Yes I am very very sure. You see Gigantes is Dark and I dealt 40-50K. That is dark element. Don't wanna imagine how it's gonna be on mobs possessing other element. Almost 1 hit but the thing is if you're an auto-tapper, what's so difficult in blessing yourself? Seen how fast bless ticks is? Only time a bishop runs out of mp on mob farms is if he's speedhacking or spellboosting nonstop. Can even counter Spellboost's mp cost increase with some abis. I know Famine posted about it before. Maybe they use at low level mobs but it's pointless. Lol. 72 mp cost. Some bishop even have 300+ mp ticks. Why the heck would you go sporting an mp cost pew pewing mobs. And I'm curious as to how you're able to figure they're using mp cost anyway? Lmao. Mailed them and they told you? Wow. But I'm not saying because I can't do it, others can't. Or because I'm not doing it, others aren't doing it. But this I am sure, no bishop that I know is that stupid. Yeah, that's how much I've seen them too. Well I personally know someone who does it, that's how. "LOL!" Leaving phones on auto tapped for hours overnight without redoing bless. You'd be surprised how many uses bots esp those who do prod or do farm service for prod. Not familiar with the nitty-gritty details, but if you say so, the bishop expert... then suuuure. I believe you then. Probably the Gigantes bots check back to their phones every 6mins to redo bless. Good for you for clarifying it because I didn't know when did it start to have someone appointed as the standard for bishops everywhere. :^
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Post by Almas on Sept 11, 2016 11:21:25 GMT
Well I personally know someone who does it, that's how. "LOL!" Leaving phones on auto tapped for hours overnight without redoing bless. You'd be surprised how many uses bots esp those who do prod or do farm service for prod. Not familiar with the nitty-gritty details, but if you say so, the bishop expert... then suuuure. I believe you then. Probably the Gigantes bots check back to their phones every 6mins to redo bless. Good for you for clarifying it because I didn't know when did it start to have someone appointed as the standard for bishops everywhere. :^ Oh wow, I wanna meet this person. Then again, if it's just saying it for the sake of winning an argument then I'll never meet one. Lol, maybe. Or maybe not, and I don't care. It's just stupid assuming one uses mp cost set at mob farms. Your cluelessness is something. Yeah, better believe me than believing in your baseless assumptions. Yay, grats! Gonna say it again, it is stupid to use mp set while mob farming! If you're auto tapping, why the heck would you even be bothered having to press bless lol! Justifying stupidity with another stupidity, I see. Ehehe, don't know what crap you're on on your last line. :v
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Post by nic123 on Sept 11, 2016 11:42:58 GMT
im thinking, tellas kagan mpc 5- delay -1.5, mpc -40% (@level 300) tentacion mbro qc abi- delay -3.1 ardour canchez rossam mpc 4- delay -2, mpc-58% accesory mpc 3 - mpc-6% jog qc abi- delay-0.6
al lines: sauro II parazaia gate guard, bergen, jusal gate keeper, biflog enina 2
with this, high budjet, low mpc from the get go, delay -7+ just from gears alone. leaving you more al options to increase heal, light magic up for nemesis , parazaia will help you mp pool for quick skill. because it adds mp regen, light magic up also helps bright heal, yea its expensive but why settle for meh when theres better. save up and aim for this set (or better). tbh this set is around 1b. which aint bad.
lemme know if anyone can think up something better owo
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Post by Eaysley on Sept 11, 2016 11:48:15 GMT
Well I personally know someone who does it, that's how. "LOL!" Leaving phones on auto tapped for hours overnight without redoing bless. You'd be surprised how many uses bots esp those who do prod or do farm service for prod. Not familiar with the nitty-gritty details, but if you say so, the bishop expert... then suuuure. I believe you then. Probably the Gigantes bots check back to their phones every 6mins to redo bless. Good for you for clarifying it because I didn't know when did it start to have someone appointed as the standard for bishops everywhere. :^ Oh wow, I wanna meet this person. Then again, if it's just saying it for the sake of winning an argument then I'll never meet one. Lol, maybe. Or maybe not, and I don't care. It's just stupid assuming one uses mp cost set at mob farms. Your cluelessness is something. Yeah, better believe me than believing in your baseless assumptions. Yay, grats! Gonna say it again, it is stupid to use mp set while mob farming! If you're auto tapping, why the heck would you even be bothered having to press bless lol! Justifying stupidity with another stupidity, I see. Ehehe, don't know what crap you're on on your last line. :v Let's meet ingame. I'll introduce you. I normally get in touch with them every weekends. But then again I don't want them to get in trouble so maybe you can promise not to screencap or whatever. For the record, my low level bishop , L270 can do Nemesis with 20k+ damage with my old low MPcost set, I used that when I did Broken Engine (because I didn't wanna bother buffing) I don't see why you think it's so far fetched for bots to use 1 MPCost while you know, botting that you're so hellbent on disproving me? Leaving characters for hours without worrying about MP? Why is it stupid? Do you even understand? It makes sense you'd want 1 MP cost if you want to leave your bot without refreshing bless every 6 minutes. If you do not have 1/low mpcost or bless and leave your bot, the bot's MP will drain. Cluelessness - wow, you make this app sound like rocket science, Mr. Pro. Hate to be the one to tell you it, it's not. I don't wanna pick a fight with you or even have an argument with you for that matter (which you started btw), but it just comes off rather you assume that there are no other ways to do stuff but yours. And do you even read how you reply to me? Little aggresive bra? Calm your tidbits.
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Post by Variz on Sept 11, 2016 12:27:34 GMT
Eaysley Almas, you can Debate in your PM, but please dont Debate here :3
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Post by Tamagu on Sept 11, 2016 12:30:19 GMT
noot. if the person is botting, they shouldn't have to worry about pressing bless once instead of making a mp cost set. i have yet to meet a bishop that ran out of mp while farming normal mobs. unless said person is speed hacking in which bless will be unable to keep up with their nemesis.
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Post by Variz on Sept 11, 2016 12:30:48 GMT
im thinking, tellas kagan mpc 5- delay -1.5, mpc -40% (@level 300) tentacion mbro qc abi- delay -3.1 ardour canchez rossam mpc 4- delay -2, mpc-58% accesory mpc 3 - mpc-6% jog qc abi- delay-0.6 al lines: sauro II parazaia gate guard, bergen, jusal gate keeper, biflog enina 2 with this, high budjet, low mpc from the get go, delay -7+ just from gears alone. leaving you more al options to increase heal, light magic up for nemesis , parazaia will help you mp pool for quick skill. because it adds mp regen, light magic up also helps bright heal, yea its expensive but why settle for meh when theres better. save up and aim for this set (or better). tbh this set is around 1b. which aint bad. lemme know if anyone can think up something better owo Some say use Tellas or Uroboros, but i dont want spend that much just only for this set :3 In my new set, i use Valida Rod (Highest -Mpc Rod and low budget too xD) idk if theres better -mpc% Rod beside Valida, please let me know Why im use rod? Because i hate Bow/any other Weapon Wielding Animation, beside Rod :3 I will update thread soon
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Post by Tamagu on Sept 11, 2016 12:40:38 GMT
im thinking, tellas kagan mpc 5- delay -1.5, mpc -40% (@level 300) tentacion mbro qc abi- delay -3.1 ardour canchez rossam mpc 4- delay -2, mpc-58% accesory mpc 3 - mpc-6% jog qc abi- delay-0.6 al lines: sauro II parazaia gate guard, bergen, jusal gate keeper, biflog enina 2 with this, high budjet, low mpc from the get go, delay -7+ just from gears alone. leaving you more al options to increase heal, light magic up for nemesis , parazaia will help you mp pool for quick skill. because it adds mp regen, light magic up also helps bright heal, yea its expensive but why settle for meh when theres better. save up and aim for this set (or better). tbh this set is around 1b. which aint bad. lemme know if anyone can think up something better owo Some say use Tellas or Uroboros, but i dont want spend that much just only for this set :3 In my new set, i use Valida Rod (Highest -Mpc Rod and low budget too xD) idk if theres better -mpc% Rod beside Valida, please let me know Why im use rod? Because i hate Bow/any other Weapon Wielding Animation, beside Rod :3 I will update thread soon personally i use almost the same set nic has mentioned. tellas kagan qc1 tentacion thrift 3 mpc5 ardour cachenez thrift 3 (planning to get gentleness5) bud ring mezzaluna qc1 i just use my usual apostalia page i use for nemesis (cheltil, para, biflog, enina 2, crap al) i never use my 1mpc set to nemesis because it will be way too low for me to one-shot higher level mobs. i only use it during farms and buffing. o.o
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Eaysley
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Post by Eaysley on Sept 11, 2016 12:48:12 GMT
noot. if the person is botting, they shouldn't have to worry about pressing bless once instead of making a mp cost set. i have yet to met a bishop that ran out of mp while farming normal mobs. unless said person is speed hacking in which bless will be unable to keep up with their nemesis. Then in that case, they will do have to re-do bless every 6 minutes. "I will rebuff Bless every 6 minutes" - said no bot ever. It just annoys me that this guy thinks the idea of using 1 MPCost for bots is so outrageous that they have to call me out for it. And calling my idea stupid. Probably not familiar how boards work? We share ideas here. Not call other people's ideas stupid just because you don't agree with them. Fyi. And back to this thread: it's not very expensive to make a 1MPCost Nemesis set. 1MPCost + 1sec Resurrection is whole diffetent story though (which is the main topic of this thread. I know cause I've done 1 MP Cost Nemesis before. Idk how they manage to have unlimited MP, but MP does drain when you continuously spam Nemesis and do not have Bless on (for the record I am not on SH either). And if you're into tapping mindlessly, and not paying attention to buffs then 1 MPCost + Cracked Mage Ore does wonders. Just need patience to farm Thrift 3 from the mobs before Magonza if I remember correctly. Bud ring's super cheap too. And you can get up to -20% from levels 5, 4 and 3 MPCost abis that are very common from raid.
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Post by Almas on Sept 11, 2016 12:50:24 GMT
im thinking, tellas kagan mpc 5- delay -1.5, mpc -40% (@level 300) tentacion mbro qc abi- delay -3.1 ardour canchez rossam mpc 4- delay -2, mpc-58% accesory mpc 3 - mpc-6% jog qc abi- delay-0.6 al lines: sauro II parazaia gate guard, bergen, jusal gate keeper, biflog enina 2 with this, high budjet, low mpc from the get go, delay -7+ just from gears alone. leaving you more al options to increase heal, light magic up for nemesis , parazaia will help you mp pool for quick skill. because it adds mp regen, light magic up also helps bright heal, yea its expensive but why settle for meh when theres better. save up and aim for this set (or better). tbh this set is around 1b. which aint bad. lemme know if anyone can think up something better owo This is almost the same set I use which I've placed in my youtube channel in a while. Well using spirit plume then cause there's no Ardour yet at that time. As per my tests (forgot exact level but 300+) Tellas gave me 15% mp cost reduction. Tested this by removing mp cost reducing abilities and checking cost and it seemed correct at that time. Let's meet ingame. I'll introduce you. I normally get in touch with them every weekends. But then again I don't want them to get in trouble so maybe you can promise not to screencap or whatever. For the record, my low level bishop , L270 can do Nemesis with 20k+ damage with my old low MPcost set, I used that when I did Broken Engine (because I didn't wanna bother buffing) I don't see why you think it's so far fetched for bots to use 1 MPCost while you know, botting that you're so hellbent on disproving me? Leaving characters for hours without worrying about MP? Why is it stupid? Do you even understand? It makes sense you'd want 1 MP cost if you want to leave your bot without refreshing bless every 6 minutes. If you do not have 1/low mpcost or bless and leave your bot, the bot's MP will drain. Cluelessness - wow, you make this app sound like rocket science, Mr. Pro. Hate to be the one to tell you it, it's not. I don't wanna pick a fight with you or even have an argument with you for that matter (which you started btw), but it just comes off rather you assume that there are no other ways to do stuff but yours. And do you even read how you reply to me? Little aggresive bra? Calm your tidbits. On second thought I decided not to. I mean if I were you and I wanna prove something I can just ask someone else to say they're using mp cost set. Let's seeeeee. In your previous posts, you said something about OP giving ideas to botters. I disproved you and you followed it up with a rant about them botting at high price special equipment areas. I disproved you again after I tested it on my bishop that it's not doable with 1 hit while using mp cost. Then you continued justifying it which is kinda funny. I am not saying because I can't, others cannot do it. It's just that I'm not that nub either to not be able to give a reasonable comment about bishop. So there's that. If you are botting, why be bothered by refreshing less? Heck you're botting and you're bothered with it? Wow. I don't wanna imagine what else bothers you when you're not botting. Still not getting the point? It's not rocket science that's why people know how to use bless. Blesssssssssssss. And for the record, I am calm. Lmao. Stop with your assumptions please. If my words offended you then apologies, didn't plan it to come that way. But really, tell your friend to use bless.
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Post by Variz on Sept 11, 2016 12:54:22 GMT
personally i use almost the same set nic has mentioned. tellas kagan qc1 tentacion thrift 3 mpc5 ardour cachenez thrift 3 (planning to get gentleness5) bud ring mezzaluna qc1 i just use my usual apostalia page i use for nemesis (cheltil, para, biflog, enina 2, crap al) i never use my 1mpc set to nemesis because it will be way too low for me to one-shot higher level mobs. i only use it during farms and buffing. o.o My Level is still low so i cant use Tellas yet, even if my level have Reached -15% Mpc of Tellas, i still stick with Valida xD just -2% Mpc, i can use a lv1 Mp Cost Abi Whats in my mind, how i can make 1 Mp Cost with a Minimum Budget but still can do Almost like High Budget People I think its almost Impossible, make a 1 Mp Cost set (but i Believe, you can make <50 Mp Cost Nemesis Set) but still can do Decent Damage, unless you got Lost Article Monsters Buff XD
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Post by Tamagu on Sept 11, 2016 12:57:59 GMT
noot. if the person is botting, they shouldn't have to worry about pressing bless once instead of making a mp cost set. i have yet to met a bishop that ran out of mp while farming normal mobs. unless said person is speed hacking in which bless will be unable to keep up with their nemesis. Then in that case, they will do have to re-do bless every 6 minutes. "I will rebuff Bless every 6 minutes" - said no bot ever. It just annoys me that this guy thinks the idea of using 1 MPCost for bots is so outrageous that they have to call me out for it. And calling my idea stupid. Probably not familiar how boards work? We share ideas here. Not call other people's ideas stupid just because you don't agree with them. Fyi. And back to this thread: it's not very expensive to make a 1MPCost Nemesis set. 1MPCost + 1sec Resurrection is whole diffetent story though (which is the main topic of this thread. I know cause I've done 1 MP Cost Nemesis before. Idk how they manage to have unlimited MP, but MP does drain when you continuously spam Nemesis and do not have Bless on (for the record I am not on SH either). And if you're into tapping mindlessly, and not paying attention to buffs then 1 MPCost + Cracked Mage Ore does wonders. Just need patience to farm Thrift 3 from the mobs before Magonza if I remember correctly. Bud ring's super cheap too. And you can get up to -20% from levels 5, 4 and 3 MPCost abis that are very common from raid. bots are repetitive. record a 6-minutes bot thing and put it on replay. the bot thing will press bless once every 6 minutes. botters don't have to check their character to bless themselves. nor use mp cost set or cracked mage ore or anything.
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