AianLacruzel
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Post by AianLacruzel on Jun 27, 2016 9:35:03 GMT
Full article here from a seemingly scientific and credible source, unlike the more user-friendly ones in circulation. batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/charging_lithium_ion_batteries1. Turn off the device or disconnect the load on charge to allow the current to drop unhindered during saturation. A parasitic load confuses the charger. (Turn your device off while charging) 2. Charge at a moderate temperature. Do not charge at freezing temperature. 3. Lithium-ion does not need to be fully charged; a partial charge is better. 4. Not all chargers apply a full topping charge and the battery may not be fully charged when the “ready” signal appears; a 100 percent charge on a fuel gauge may be a lie. 5. Discontinue using charger and/or battery if the battery gets excessively warm. 6. Apply some charge to an empty battery before storing (40–50 percent SoC is ideal). 7. Don't use fast chargers. 4.02v is optimal. (On a different article from same website. Btw, My charger is 5v. :/) 8. Goldilocks Rule. Do not completely drain your battery often. Do not overcharge. The battery can catch discharge acid and catch fire! (On a different article from same website) 9. Do a full drain and full charge after every 30 charges. (On a different article from same website) |
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Post by :| on Jun 28, 2016 5:17:55 GMT
7. That is for directly charging the battery. Not the phone. (Ever saw thise batteries that look like AA batteries? That is for those)
8. Phones have charge controllers. They stop charging the battery once full. (Well, trickle charging actually. But it won't overcharge unless you leave it for 1 week) (No one leaves a phone charging for more fhan 1 day bruh)
9. Not really needed. "Calibration" is only needed if the battery is acting strange :3
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AianLacruzel
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Post by AianLacruzel on Jun 28, 2016 12:19:11 GMT
It will be up to readers to decide which info they will follow and which source is more credible to them. I'm not an expert on the matter.
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Post by :| on Jul 3, 2016 10:25:16 GMT
@aian I messed with Li-ion batteries and Li-po batteries a lot before. I know what I'm talking about :3 Also the article you linked talks about handling Li-ion. Your phones already handle it themselves. Only precautions you need to make is to make sure you don't leave it plugged for pro-longed periods of time and make sure it doesn't get too hot. They already made it simple for the end-consumer like you. Also please remove the line that says 4.02v is the optimal charging voltage. That can confuse people thinking that their USB-based chargers are over voltaged  Manufacturers chose the USB specification since it is universal. USB requires 5 volts and that's why your charger is 5volts. A circuit inside your phone downvolts that to the optimal voltage level for your battery. |
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AianLacruzel
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Post by AianLacruzel on Jul 5, 2016 22:05:49 GMT
@aian Also please remove the line that says 4.02v is the optimal charging voltage. That can confuse people thinking that their USB-based chargers are over voltaged I cannot remove that line since I'm not the author of its source. Also, I cannot agree with nor deny anything you say since I'm not an expert on the matter. I also cannot prove nor deny your expertise. I'm just sharing/quoting the link/website. It's up to the readers to choose whose advice to take. If you disagree with this info, please contact batteryuniversity.com; if they tell you that I have made a mistake in quoting them, Admin please remove this thread. |
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Post by :| on Jul 6, 2016 10:24:01 GMT
@aian Also please remove the line that says 4.02v is the optimal charging voltage. That can confuse people thinking that their USB-based chargers are over voltaged I cannot remove that line since I'm not the author of its source. Also, I cannot agree with nor deny anything you say since I'm not an expert on the matter. I also cannot prove nor deny your expertise. I'm just sharing/quoting the link/website. It's up to the readers to choose whose advice to take. If you disagree with this info, please contact batteryuniversity.com; if they tell you that I have made a mistake in quoting them, Admin please remove this thread. What I'm saying is remove that line from your post. It's kinda obvious. Phones now a days use USB. Just search a bit about the USB specification. It says 5volts. Try running 4volts on your phone. (Via the charger). If your phone is shitty, it will break. If not, it should not charge. A bit of research will prove this. |
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AianLacruzel
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Post by AianLacruzel on Jul 6, 2016 19:29:33 GMT
A bit of research will prove this. I wish you all the best as you discuss this with batteryuniversity.com. Do let me know how it pans out. |
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Post by :| on Jul 7, 2016 5:23:45 GMT
A bit of research will prove this. I wish you all the best as you discuss this with batteryuniversity.com. Do let me know how it pans out. I wouldn't need to do that. Their site is unrelated to mobile devices. What they're talking about is Lithium batteries used mostly in the industry. Your post is clearly talking about phones/mobile devices. I'm 90% sure your device uses micro-usb. ALL USB CONNECTIONS PROVIDES 5 VOLTS OF ELECTRICITY. The current differs though. That is what is misleading in your post. You're saying that 4.02volts is the optimal voltage and people would assume that their PHONE/MOBILE DEVICES should have a charger with 4.02 volts. If you still don't believe that EVERY USB PORT/CHARGER PROVIDES 5 VOLTS en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USBlmgtfy.com/?q=USB+VoltageAnd Fast chargers for phones still use 5volts. They just provide more current. If you still wouldn't believe, get a multimeter. TEST EVERY USB PORT YOU CAN FIND. They will provide 4.9-5.2 volts of electricity mostly. They rarely go under 5 volts. |
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Post by Ryukengan on Jul 7, 2016 21:08:53 GMT
Going to lock this thread and advise players to inform themselves as :| is right, these "tips" are for industrial batteries. |
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