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Post by ManaKhe on Jan 10, 2014 2:15:44 GMT
I've known of a lot of Enchanters who have had no idea about builds or what gear is the best to use so I'm gonna add a guide here. Feel free to tell me if there is something incorrect or something that needs to be added.
Low Level Build Advice: MAX INT FIRST before you do anything else. After this if you are using a DEX build you have three options.
1) Add 135 AGI first and use Hit Xtals/Gear so you can hit stuff that you will be leveling on. You will be able to melee earlier than with other options. Your damage however will be a lot less than that of a 140+ Enchanter.
2) Add 43 DEX first. You will be leveling as an APP High Wizard with this option until 140. You will max ASPD at 140 with Swords if you do this.
3) Level using a High Wizard build and use a Stefly's Book at 140. This is the easiest option but requires a Stefly's Book which not everyone will want to get.
CRT builds are typically gonna be much more difficult at lower levels so I don't recommend it but as far as I know they are pretty simple. Get 200+ INT(preferably maxed but for CRT builds it could be better to have less INT at level 140 for CRT builds), get 135 AGI, then max CRT. Use Hit Xtals/Gear or Crit rate gear until you get high CRT.
More build stuff next post
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Post by ManaKhe on Jan 10, 2014 2:27:42 GMT
Builds at higher levels: There are a lot of options at higher levels, at least for DEX builds. DEX: 70+ DEX is a good amount. With newer enemies to fight(mostly regular mobs, not bosses) 70 DEX is pushing it for being able to hit certain things. Such as Tormentors which drop Ciel. Gauntlet+ helps a lot with this though. You will probably be able to figure out if you want more DEX or not at this point. You will be around level 150 when you have 70 DEX. AGI: 135+. Max this if you are going to use Staff with Magic Amp VIT: This is the stat that is best left for after you have Max INT, 135+ AGI, and 70+ DEX. You won't be tanking at all until 160+ pretty much and you will survive as a DPS role pretty easily before then anyways on level appropriate stuff. At 180+ is when Enchanters become great at tanking. CRT builds are fairly straight-forward as opposed to DEX builds I believe. If any CRT Enchanters have any advice please feel free to share Mostly somewhere along the lines of 200-256 INT(if you wanna add CRT sooner), 135 AGI(enough for ASPD), max CRT Tanking on an Enchanter! Tanking is not viable at all until 160+ and doesn't get really good until 180+. This is because there isn't enough stat points at lower levels and you are missing important skills that help with tanking. Stoneskin is at 160 and it acts like a 2nd layer of HP. It is a pretty small amount so those bosses hitting like 20k will still kill you in one hit without higher HP. Origin is at 180 and basically halves the amount of damage you take from most bosses. Yes its basically half. It only works on Fire, Wind, Water, and Earth element bosses, those are your specialty. Also you need enough AGi for max ASPD WITHOUT ASPD GEAR. You also need enough VIT to survive harder hits so you can use autoskill gear to help you keep hate. Using w/e weapon, Bunny Ears, Iron Armor UP, S Bangle will not let you keep enough hate for most parties. Keeping hate is Enchanters biggest problem when it comes to tanking. We can absolutely great at it though. Most of the bosses we can tank we can tank without heals or MP heals or Para. Bosses like Ganei, Simcracker, Jabek, Azimov, Mezzaluna(need more HP for her or she kills at the beginning), or Ziddu. We can tank everything before Ganei without heals too(obviously). If you do have a bishop with you it could heal the melee DPS you have with you instead of focusing on you. Gears now!
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Post by ManaKhe on Jan 10, 2014 2:41:35 GMT
Enchanter Gear!
DPS
Weapon: Dailan Scythe>Sword Amulet(Magic amp build)=Pramia(standard)=Flabellum/Artemis(CRT)>>>Laevatein=Dia Espada, Fuma Shuriken for bosses without Pramia on standard build Xtals: Gerust>>>Dunkelis>Beelzetor>Isurugi>FG. Kaiser II for CRT builds
Armor: DPR=Dragon Mail Completely preference Xtals: Moldus(with 200+ DEX)>Dunkelis>>>Isurugi>FG.
Additional: Glory Cloak>Mir Symbol>Headband=Ciel Mana wave does 1 damage to most high level bosses. Glory Cloak isn't a big upgrade over Mir Symbol but costs like 15 times as much so....yeah Xtals: Dunkelis=Mezza>Isurugi>FG.
Special: Magic Amp(Magic Amp builds, obviously)=Reduce Bangle(standard)=Fearsome Claw(CRT)>Lotus Seeds Xtals: Mezza.
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Post by ManaKhe on Jan 10, 2014 3:02:51 GMT
Tanking: Weapon: Best Crystals to use are Provoke Auto(only use one), Kaphar, HP 20% Basically it's better not to use a sword here because you want a faster drain cast. Flabellum is another good option here. Canes can be good too but require more AGI to use Body Armor: Best Crystal to use is Simcracker, otherwise use HP 20% DPR- Still probably the best option here, helps you keep hate, which is the main issue Iron Armor UP- To use on bosses who spam stun or when you need more HP Plate Armor UP- To reduce damage Additional: Best crystals to use are Provoke Auto(only use one), Kaphar, HP 20% Ciel- Helps a lot with keeping hate from what I've noticed. I guess the extra autoskill cast helps Wolf ears/lion shield- They have hate rise so that will help Anything with HP if you need it Special Equip: Best Crystals to use are Provoke Auto(only use one), Kaphar, HP 20% Lotus Seeds: Helps keep hate Seahorse Bangle: Not recommended really since you need to be able to keep hate and this doesn't help at all Leveling advice to 140 and beyond! 80-120: Be like everyone else, do ATG or MQ. Pretty simple here. Shouldn't be too hard to find a party as a wizard. Theres also Evil vibes if you want to solo 120-140: Best exp will be from Naga quest. The problem is App Enchanters have a hard time getting and keeping a party here. Do not melee at this time without at least having Hexe Espada(enhanced), DPR, Booster, and Lotus seeds, your damage will probably be horrible if you don't at least have that. It would be best to have Ciel instead of Booster at this point if you want to melee. Also around 120 AGI or so you don't need to Drain Nagas, just use Mini Heal to keep your HP up. If you find yourself dying still while doing that by all means use Drain still. 140-160: Just keep doing Nagas. Unless you have tickets or a lot of EXP books, then you could go to Ghost Lanterns. Matar is alright too but Nagas always seemed faster to me anyways. Megaroche if you find a party that will take you. Monsters in the Valley is good too. 160+: Megaroche or High Ents. Nagas are still slower than them even without tickets. Monsters in the Valley might be able to keep can still be good. These are also a good reference for leveling: Popular Experience Quests and Leveling Guide
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2014 3:48:56 GMT
Thanks for the guide!
Im not an enchanter genious, but this is what i have for now. Need some opinions.
210INT 181AGI
Sinbad2/Tarante Dai Espada/Tarante Witch Knife T.knife+ Fuma shuriken
Iron armor up/Tarante
Ciel/Tarante
S.bangle/Tarante
Gaundlet+ Lotus seeds Soon to get-magic amplifier
I plan on getting AGI to 190 before adding dex since i can hit whatever i need to with tarante xtals, with the exception of certain bosses, but since im enchanter apr, i dont mind because i dont do boss parties. I can hit every regular mob though. obliviously for melee. I can solo every boss in parul, f.grecia, zant, bossheit, matar, matadora(if im lucky) and ghoulie. i also solo all the mq bosses of the recent update. (azimov,mezz and someone else).
The base atk and damage with all my weapons is atleast 1k. if i use a staff my magic is around 3.8k. additional damage is 1.7k. i switch between sinbad2 and espada for melee. Sinbad2 vs non elements and melee mobs, espada vs wind element or magic based mobs.I always use s.bangle, ceil and iron armor since lotus seeds limit my survival.
Solo Grind spots are Sauro, Eihcorns, Naga, Matar, Opis and boss colon.
Any thoughts on this?
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Post by ManaKhe on Jan 10, 2014 4:10:10 GMT
Your build seems more like a tanky build haha. I would get a DPR definitely if you don't have one. You probably don't need to put a Tarante on it, you barely need more than one of those for most stuff that you will be leveling on. Flabellum is probably better than Fuma for enchanters. For the most part you will only be using t knife and sinbad when you are tanking, so those are good places for provoke auto. Dia espada will pretty much always out damage Sinbad.
When you are doing Nagas you should be able to get away with using full dps gear. If not use S bangle, ciel, and dpr. Same goes with Matar, sauro, and einhorn(well maybe iron armor on einhorn). Opis and boss colon you can use full dps gear I think.
Magic amplifier only works with rods, keep that in mind. So it isn't all that fantastic since Witch knife is pretty crappy.
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Koikoi
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is coming back to Iruna ( I think) haha!
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Post by Koikoi on Jan 10, 2014 4:44:06 GMT
♡(ゝ。∂)♥
Ooh. How about me. I'm a 160 enchanter Max int/ 100 dex/ 97 agi And the rest are accidentally scattered to the other stats
After adding agi to 150, don't know what to do next actually. If I'm going to keep dex going or do I need hp.
Gears: Dpr up/ kaise pilz Dia expada/ kaiser Hairband Lotus seed But sometimes I switch to s. Bangle coz of insufficient hp when I use lotus seed
Hp w/o s. Bangle is 3k, with is 5k Base damage 1.2k Additional damage 2.7k AutoSKILL damage 2-4.5k So-so in soloing boss. I'd say 50% of the time I can XD
Planning on getting 2 more kaisers for additional gear and lotus seed. Idk what Ciel is, how it looks like, stats, and how much?
And what do you think about my char? Thanks a lot!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2014 5:14:16 GMT
Enchanter Gear: Weapons: Dia Espada/Hexe Espada- Highest damage weapon for Enchanters Flabellum- Another good damage weapon, best used for the hit +30 it gives or for when you want to be ranged. Sinbad II- Good evasion buff, useful for tanking Throwing Knives- Adds 10-12% EVA, useful for tanking Armor: Dark Priest Robe- Best damage armor. I guess get Mgarb if you can't get this... Iron Armor, Plate Armor, Saltus- All good armors for tanking, Iron is more for the stun reduction Additional Gear: Ciel- Best damage Additional Gear. Two mana waves ftw Booster- Decent damage gear, very cheap Bunny ears/Hp gear- Adds Hp for tanking Hoplon/Res gear-Probably better when you can survive without the extra HP Special Equips: Lotus Seeds- Autoskill Chance +5%, Crit Rate -20. Not recommended for CRT builds obviously Terrible Claws(Name needs confirmation)- Autoskill chance +3%. Not recommended for DEX builds obviously. Feels weird posting 4 things at once :/ terrible claw: fearsome claw. you're welcome.
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Post by ManaKhe on Jan 10, 2014 5:19:49 GMT
After AGI 150 you got a couple things you could do. Add more AGI, more EVA helps with tanking and such. Add VIT, also helps with tanking but most bosses don't require VIT to tank, it just makes it easier. You could add DEX but 100 is enough. Ciel adds another mana wave autoskill. So you have 2 mana waves instead of 1, and they can activate at the same time. It also gives +5% neutral magic damage. It is a BIG boost in damage. It's also a pretty blue cape I would take Kaise Piltz off of DPR. Also one FG won't affect your MP use too much. If anything you could put it on something you wouldn't use while soloing/tanking because most likely when you are concerned about MP you are also worried about HP.
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Post by ManaKhe on Jan 10, 2014 5:20:15 GMT
Ty syerin!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2014 5:21:27 GMT
♡(ゝ。∂)♥ Ooh. How about me. I'm a 160 enchanter Max int/ 100 dex/ 97 agi And the rest are accidentally scattered to the other stats After adding agi to 150, don't know what to do next actually. If I'm going to keep dex going or do I need hp. Gears: Dpr up/ kaise pilz Dia expada/ kaiser Hairband Lotus seed But sometimes I switch to s. Bangle coz of insufficient hp when I use lotus seed Hp w/o s. Bangle is 3k, with is 5k Base damage 1.2k Additional damage 2.7k AutoSKILL damage 2-4.5k So-so in soloing boss. I'd say 50% of the time I can XD Planning on getting 2 more kaisers for additional gear and lotus seed. Idk what Ciel is, how it looks like, stats, and how much? And what do you think about my char? Thanks a lot! me as dps enchanter: base damage: just lower than 1.7k - 4.2k additional damage: lower than 1.6k-3.9k autoskill damage: 3k-5k best damage done: 13k on strix 9.8k-9.9k on fallen angel grecia 9k on moles normal mobs doesnt need enchant weapon much so just 6k-8k damage.
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Post by ManaKhe on Jan 10, 2014 5:29:12 GMT
I feel like joining the party of sharing damage . Regular attack: 1-1.5k Mana Waves: 2.8-3.5k Enchant weapon: 3.3-6k Silly thunderbolts doing low damage and earth pikes and fire lances doing a lot.
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Koikoi
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is coming back to Iruna ( I think) haha!
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Post by Koikoi on Jan 10, 2014 5:56:50 GMT
After AGI 150 you got a couple things you could do. Add more AGI, more EVA helps with tanking and such. Add VIT, also helps with tanking but most bosses don't require VIT to tank, it just makes it easier. You could add DEX but 100 is enough. Ciel adds another mana wave autoskill. So you have 2 mana waves instead of 1, and they can activate at the same time. It also gives +5% neutral magic damage. It is a BIG boost in damage. It's also a pretty blue cape I would take Kaise Piltz off of DPR. Also one FG won't affect your MP use too much. If anything you could put it on something you wouldn't use while soloing/tanking because most likely when you are concerned about MP you are also worried about HP. ♡(ゝ。∂)♥ Ah okay so I'll follow you. I'll add agi to 200 and then maybe I'll add a little vit haha And then, I'll take off Hairband and figure out what to do with it and I'll buy Ciel. Btw, how much do you think it is? Also, I really planned to put Fg on dpr so that I'll always have the matk but I feel like I can't take Kaise pilz off now coz I need the hp T.T so that will be 1 fg and 3 kaisers. Also, do you recommend lotus seed? 0.0 Also, why is my damage lower than you guys Dx lol!
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Post by ManaKhe on Jan 10, 2014 6:19:20 GMT
Oh I forgot to tell you the price haha. I think its about 2 mil for slot ciel. So it isn't outrageous or anything. You should be fine without the Kaise piltz, remember it does actually increase the amount of damage you take. Get separate HP gear for when you need more HP. I highly recommend lotus seeds. 5% autoskill is a lot better than what other special equips can do for damage.
As for why we do more damage than you. This is my gear:
Dia Espada +8 Kaiser, Ciel +6 FG, DPR +6 Kaiser, Lotus Seeds. My end goal is the have a 2 slot espada with 2 Isurugi xtals, ciel with kaiser, dpr with shojo, and lotus seeds with mezzaluna xtal.
Also my Matk in full dps is 1762
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2014 6:35:12 GMT
for my privacy, my gear is a secret. my matk is usually just around 1.4k-1.6k. with witch knife dps set, my matk runs up to 1.8k. it doesnt matter because enchanter's damage are random anyway. my 1.4k matk does 4k more damage than 1.8k matk.
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