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Post by klint on Jan 10, 2018 13:33:46 GMT
hi! help pls! glad dmg build. crt, str, dex, vit 0-50~~~ Why agility? It will increase the damage sword tempest,It is used rarely, and agility do not need. Full dex will give an additional attack Dex will increase damage "pillar plade",and things with delay can be replaced by damage or crit (i use google translator) Agi gives tempest damage a large boost on boss fights, tempest generates high hate growth that makes glad a good tank and aside from that its a party aoe(specially those bosses at anniv event, max of 3 targets tempest still got a damage boost from more targets), you can still draw hate and make foes targets you from afar. Im seeing some glads now and also jp glads going agi build with really high dex, though this builds needs many stat points, therefore, you can still go with high dex from agi build. Upcomming skill specially valkyrie blade needs dex to reduced its delay(-sd from equips will be no effect). But even jp have the skills they still use tempest as main skill for boss fights so agi build still used. Im thinking of trying dex build when the skill is implemented in en version, its still not spammable because valkyrie consume tempest gauge so that it works with pillar blade(to regain tempest gauge). |
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Post by kyramal on Jan 10, 2018 14:16:32 GMT
hi! help pls! glad dmg build. crt, str, dex, vit 0-50~~~ Why agility? It will increase the damage sword tempest,It is used rarely, and agility do not need. Full dex will give an additional attack Dex will increase damage "pillar plade",and things with delay can be replaced by damage or crit (i use google translator) Agi gives tempest damage a large boost on boss fights, tempest generates high hate growth that makes glad a good tank and aside from that its a party aoe(specially those bosses at anniv event, max of 3 targets tempest still got a damage boost from more targets), you can still draw hate and make foes targets you from afar. Im seeing some glads now and also jp glads going agi build with really high dex, though this builds needs many stat points, therefore, you can still go with high dex from agi build. Upcomming skill specially valkyrie blade needs dex to reduced its delay(-sd from equips will be no effect). But even jp have the skills they still use tempest as main skill for boss fights so agi build still used. Im thinking of trying dex build when the skill is implemented in en version, its still not spammable because valkyrie consume tempest gauge so that it works with pillar blade(to regain tempest gauge). • then it means that "sword tempest" is useless • remove agi altogether and completely raise dex:D - we get the opportunity to dress things for atk and crit dmg. problems with delayed skills will decides the dex!( dex will give atk~~) - I'm right?:3 |
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Post by klint on Jan 10, 2018 16:10:36 GMT
Agi gives tempest damage a large boost on boss fights, tempest generates high hate growth that makes glad a good tank and aside from that its a party aoe(specially those bosses at anniv event, max of 3 targets tempest still got a damage boost from more targets), you can still draw hate and make foes targets you from afar. Im seeing some glads now and also jp glads going agi build with really high dex, though this builds needs many stat points, therefore, you can still go with high dex from agi build. Upcomming skill specially valkyrie blade needs dex to reduced its delay(-sd from equips will be no effect). But even jp have the skills they still use tempest as main skill for boss fights so agi build still used. Im thinking of trying dex build when the skill is implemented in en version, its still not spammable because valkyrie consume tempest gauge so that it works with pillar blade(to regain tempest gauge). • then it means that "sword tempest" is useless • remove agi altogether and completely raise dex:D - we get the opportunity to dress things for atk and crit dmg. problems with delayed skills will decides the dex!( dex will give atk~~) - I'm right?:3 You dont get me x.x tempest is main skill used on boss fight specially when your in a party(mostly tanking), tempest generate more hate than pillar and with agi you can tank with dps balanced. well really upto you if your going dex, still have good capabilities specially great damage boost on pillar and astute. If only there is a 2nd page for stat(like al xtal) I would go for dex too for the 2nd page. |
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Post by kyramal on Jan 10, 2018 22:37:38 GMT
• then it means that "sword tempest" is useless • remove agi altogether and completely raise dex:D - we get the opportunity to dress things for atk and crit dmg. problems with delayed skills will decides the dex!( dex will give atk~~) - I'm right?:3 You dont get me x.x tempest is main skill used on boss fight specially when your in a party(mostly tanking), tempest generate more hate than pillar and with agi you can tank with dps balanced. well really upto you if your going dex, still have good capabilities specially great damage boost on pillar and astute. If only there is a 2nd page for stat(like al xtal) I would go for dex too for the 2nd page. •in the future "Valkyrie" has more damage than sword tempest. Then agi will be useless, and a full dex will remove the needs for delaying skills and will increase a atk. • "Valkyrie" will have more dmg after the negative effects "astute" and "pillar blade". Bleeding is трудно to do, forced to spam the pillar blade. • Sword tempest is too long for spam, basically we will use a pillar blade for the basic damage - Really because of the agi, the damage rises strongly at the sword tempest? - What am I wrong with? |
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Post by snake on Jan 11, 2018 7:36:48 GMT
You dont get me x.x tempest is main skill used on boss fight specially when your in a party(mostly tanking), tempest generate more hate than pillar and with agi you can tank with dps balanced. well really upto you if your going dex, still have good capabilities specially great damage boost on pillar and astute. If only there is a 2nd page for stat(like al xtal) I would go for dex too for the 2nd page. •in the future "Valkyrie" has more damage than sword tempest. Then agi will be useless, and a full dex will remove the needs for delaying skills and will increase a atk. • "Valkyrie" will have more dmg after the negative effects "astute" and "pillar blade". Bleeding is трудно to do, forced to spam the pillar blade. • Sword tempest is too long for spam, basically we will use a pillar blade for the basic damage - Really because of the agi, the damage rises strongly at the sword tempest? - What am I wrong with? -yes, agi increases tempest massively -valkyrie consumes about half (?) of the tempest gauge, so using tempest is unavoidable -tempest is as spammable as pillar blade, im not sure what you're on about -tempest spam will outdamage pillar blade spam on boss fights 100% of the time (i'm not even considering valkyrie since it's not spammable) |
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Post by RaffTheDuck on Jan 15, 2018 21:18:59 GMT
Anyone know which sword deals higher base damage between Black Lacquer III & Sauro Blade L5? Valkyrie Blade will eventually get implemented and when I go Agi-less, I'll need a replacement for Legacy of Will II
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Post by pingrek on Jan 15, 2018 23:02:18 GMT
Anyone know which sword deals higher base damage between Black Lacquer III & Sauro Blade L5? Valkyrie Blade will eventually get implemented and when I go Agi-less, I'll need a replacement for Legacy of Will II Why not keep agi so you can do full tempest damage against bosses since valkyrie can't be spammed since it takes a good chunk of tempest gauge, but to answer the question I would say lacquer possibly will do more damage but sauro can be used for extra resistance so your solid skin lasts even longer and in the case of debuff you'll be able to take a few extra hits |
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Post by RaffTheDuck on Jan 16, 2018 4:25:56 GMT
Anyone know which sword deals higher base damage between Black Lacquer III & Sauro Blade L5? Valkyrie Blade will eventually get implemented and when I go Agi-less, I'll need a replacement for Legacy of Will II Why not keep agi so you can do full tempest damage against bosses since valkyrie can't be spammed since it takes a good chunk of tempest gauge, but to answer the question I would say lacquer possibly will do more damage but sauro can be used for extra resistance so your solid skin lasts even longer and in the case of debuff you'll be able to take a few extra hits My build's going to be: Str:433+ Int:1 Vit:1 Agi:1 Dex:433+ Crt:433+ Rd:100 Gr:14 Due to stat point total being 1,413 from cap lvl(355) + capped apos stats. I'm a Min-Maxer, so I normally adapt to these extremes. Plus, I'm already working on updating my resistance set since everything in Ep.4 onwards already hurts like a falling ice cream truck. If there were any points left over after maxing out Gr when Lvl cap gets raised, I'd start putting points back into Agi. |
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Post by 401 on Jan 16, 2018 5:20:45 GMT
isnt red tengu IV deal better damage then bl III and l5?
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Post by RaffTheDuck on Jan 16, 2018 13:36:06 GMT
isnt red tengu IV deal better damage then bl III and l5? R.T IV: Crtdmg + 19%, Atk + 7%, Melee = 1.50 x Str, Melee pierce = 0.03 x Lvl, autoskill S.B L5 Crtdmg + 19%, Atk + 5%, Melee + 400, Melee pierce + 5%, Str +10 B.L III: Crtdmg + 25%, Str + 5, Crt + 3 Dmg-wise, Sauro Blade L5 should be the weakest of the three. What I don't know is if a 6-7% Crtdmg difference will make Black Lacquer III overpower Red Tengu IV at this point. |
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Post by vincen on Jan 17, 2018 13:15:16 GMT
isnt red tengu IV deal better damage then bl III and l5? R.T IV: Crtdmg + 19%, Atk + 7%, Melee = 1.50 x Str, Melee pierce = 0.03 x Lvl, autoskill S.B L5 Crtdmg + 19%, Atk + 5%, Melee + 400, Melee pierce + 5%, Str +10 B.L III: Crtdmg + 25%, Str + 5, Crt + 3 Dmg-wise, Sauro Blade L5 should be the weakest of the three. What I don't know is if a 6-7% Crtdmg difference will make Black Lacquer III overpower Red Tengu IV at this point. Red tengu IV is the best for damage |
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Post by RaffTheDuck on Jan 17, 2018 21:12:56 GMT
R.T IV: Crtdmg + 19%, Atk + 7%, Melee = 1.50 x Str, Melee pierce = 0.03 x Lvl, autoskill S.B L5 Crtdmg + 19%, Atk + 5%, Melee + 400, Melee pierce + 5%, Str +10 B.L III: Crtdmg + 25%, Str + 5, Crt + 3 Dmg-wise, Sauro Blade L5 should be the weakest of the three. What I don't know is if a 6-7% Crtdmg difference will make Black Lacquer III overpower Red Tengu IV at this point. Red tengu IV is the best for damage Thanks, now I know which sword to 2-slot & super-refine. As for xtals, something tells me Bancho Muscle(atk+10%, crtdmg+8% on weapon) beats Sauro II(atk+15%, melee pierce+5%) by raw dmg, which is exactly what i'm going after |
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Post by vincen on Jan 18, 2018 11:44:49 GMT
Red tengu IV is the best for damage Thanks, now I know which sword to 2-slot & super-refine. As for xtals, something tells me Bancho Muscle(atk+10%, crtdmg+8% on weapon) beats Sauro II(atk+15%, melee pierce+5%) by raw dmg, which is exactly what i'm going after But if 2s, i would like to choose sauro blade L5 cz more balance between atk and def |
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Post by blazer on Jan 18, 2018 12:35:53 GMT
Thanks, now I know which sword to 2-slot & super-refine. As for xtals, something tells me Bancho Muscle(atk+10%, crtdmg+8% on weapon) beats Sauro II(atk+15%, melee pierce+5%) by raw dmg, which is exactly what i'm going after But if 2s, i would like to choose sauro blade L5 cz more balance between atk and def I won't suggest sauro equips slotting since we won't get any upgrades for it x |
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Post by vincen on Jan 18, 2018 12:38:25 GMT
But if 2s, i would like to choose sauro blade L5 cz more balance between atk and def I won't suggest sauro equips slotting since we won't get any upgrades for it x Yup sadly there's no up for sauro weapon |
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