caporal
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WHAT DOESN'T KILL ME, GIVES ME EXP
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Post by caporal on May 22, 2016 16:17:11 GMT
Why bishops nowadays prefer spam revival than healing ?
ok if the tank is a ninja, but why do they spam revival when the tank is paladin ?
I know it recover a lot of HP when they get resurected but do bishop forgot they have heal skill ? Do bishop forgot their main role ?
Furthermore, Paladins need HP to deal more damage and Heal cost less MP than Revival .
You know it's annoying for High wizard or enchanter having to heal MP of bishops every 20 seconds.
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Post by Shori>.< on May 22, 2016 16:37:55 GMT
Why bishops nowadays prefer spam revival than healing ? ok if the tank is a ninja, but why do they spam revival when the tank is paladin ? I know it recover a lot of HP when they get resurected but do bishop forgot they have heal skill ? Do bishop forgot their main role ? Furthermore, Paladins need HP to deal more damage and Heal cost less MP than Revival . You know it's annoying for High wizard or enchanter having to heal MP of bishops every 20 seconds. Maybe they think you need low hp for oath (do you?) Maybe they don't have heal set yet (not possible, right? Wait, I don't have it yet -_-") Maybe they don't have jabek and their mp won't last with heal spam (Hwiz tho...) Maybe your hp is so high that it's annoying to spam healing cuz it doesn't seem like it will ever fill up (lol) Maybe, previously they already party up with another pally and their finger is cramped due to heal spam so they switch to resu spam on you. (0w0) Maybe they are like me who immediately panic when they enter the boss room and forgot which is which. I went and spam healing on the ninja instead of enchy XD I can't retort when they call me nub bish since it was my first time in a party. And of course, maybe they are lazy asses who prefer sitting on their bottom spamming resu while taking it easy... <_<. >_> |
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Post by quitted on May 22, 2016 17:23:19 GMT
some bishop maybe dont have enough negatice hate increase-% stat to spam heal without deviating hate bar from main tanker
another reason is they dont have long targeting range enough to avoid aoe attack/field effect. i think bishops need to learn make effective use of non-agro heal range. i guess they do exist as shown by famine video in other thread. thats why i post suggestion to bishops to look on equipment or xtal with range+# stat here irunaonline.boards.net/post/181093/threadabout refusal to spam heal to avoid aoe attack/field effect, i cant clearly see evidence of it on my last week wizard boss mission fight. the bishop in my party moved far away from boss and forcing me to spam revita ale. the wizard boss have hp drain field effect. i use almost all 2 stacks of revita ale |
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Yazmat
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Pally Lv351 | Alchy Lv318
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Post by Yazmat on May 22, 2016 18:00:00 GMT
Just party a servant instead... their 30 sec regen heals more than bright heal xD
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EP Opheia
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Bishop / Dec. 2013-April 2018
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Post by EP Opheia on May 22, 2016 23:37:57 GMT
Paladin - Spam resu for knights oath; unless they don't have knights oath yet.
I hope you all know that Bishops do a lot of work in a party, and especially a full party. I do both spamming resu, and healing.
For example, say Leviam full party with Paladin, Bishop, High Wizard, and Assassin. Pally does k.o so I spam resu to just pally, and others I would simply just heal (1-2x) and occasionally resu them. That's what I would usually do in a party, or at least try to (it does take me a few runs to get used to the party). I always have mp pots with me (Binal L or Thick Remagic M) even if I'm in a party with a hw/enchy because I don't always like to rely on them to mp me. They're there to help mp you, not for you to rely on them. I would say it's the same for Bishops to have others carry some sort of pot incase Bishop dies/gets stunned/etc, but I like healing/supporting others so I don't mind. Would be helpful though ^^
-Just a little Bishy's words and thoughts.
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Post by ArtMade on May 23, 2016 0:45:09 GMT
Maybe because people loves to go in without proper buffing? I know that isn´t everybody that do this, but... like 98% of parties do this... it´s like... we have lots of usefull buffs that will make you survive -.-
Also because most of bosses AoE now, and people dont use vacines on bosses, so dying is easy now...
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Eaysley
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"These violent delights have violent ends."
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Post by Eaysley on May 23, 2016 3:12:44 GMT
Preferring Resu over heal isn't lazy. It's also convenient.
Spam revival+Dream song = best combo.
I've been a bish for quite some time now @level260 rn. I rarely had to party with an HP tank. Most parties look for evader tanks like ninjas or gladiators (occassionally Paladins). And they all prefer resurrection. We still need to HP heal minstrels and HWs though.
As a tank, I don't mind Resu spammers as long as it really is spam. And that's not lazy. It's more effort than healing.
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2016 4:22:13 GMT
For me it is situational always. Also I can imagine how hard it is to do the role of a bishop as I have as well. One simple mistake can lead the whole party to be massacred.
If my tank is a paladin after I resu it I will heal it then resu again til the HP become full. I spam resu on the most class who do the activities (who tends to get the most hate)
In worst case scenario there are times that you will choose who to resu first.
(Someone who can heal, someone who can tank and buy you a few seconds) something like that.
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Yazmat
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Pally Lv351 | Alchy Lv318
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Post by Yazmat on May 23, 2016 6:43:21 GMT
When the paladin starts doing 10k guardians instead of 40k he starts loosing hate faster... and everyone will end up dying... heal heal lazy bishops don't look for an excuse... buy a heal set as well as a rezu set...
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Post by Famine on May 23, 2016 7:26:05 GMT
When the paladin starts doing 10k guardians instead of 40k he starts loosing hate faster... and everyone will end up dying... heal heal lazy bishops don't look for an excuse... buy a heal set as well as a rezu set... I've been saying this for a long time... If you don't heal, just pick another class... |
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bravebor
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to slack to give a damn, yet to bored to not say anything...
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Post by bravebor on May 23, 2016 7:35:29 GMT
When the paladin starts doing 10k guardians instead of 40k he starts loosing hate faster... and everyone will end up dying... heal heal lazy bishops don't look for an excuse... buy a heal set as well as a rezu set... I've been saying this for a long time... If you don't heal, just pick another class... And every old school pally that has seen this just wants to give you a big, greatful hug for saying that  |
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Post by Tilt*Madara on May 24, 2016 14:57:01 GMT
Just for me personally I like spam ressing just because I don't really have to worry about low hp/fragile classes dying and for Knights oath(res lv.1)
I'll heal got status effects or other non knights oath using high hp classes. Other than that I don't see the need to. Could be wrong but just my play preference.
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Post by MinHa (￣^￣)ゞ on May 24, 2016 15:37:49 GMT
Mm my friend pally always need HP<50% when farm boss  |
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Post by bikini on May 24, 2016 21:37:07 GMT
a guildie pally ask me help for shelk, she said only heal me(lv 308).
Normally always duo with hw, my set is mixed delay/mp cost/heal, but aggro sucks
depend boss or situation i use heal or resu, when bosses blind or stund i use bright heal and after battle i use kreis heal and same when im in party.
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Post by retyross on Jun 5, 2016 14:35:17 GMT
Why bishops nowadays prefer spam revival than healing ? ok if the tank is a ninja, but why do they spam revival when the tank is paladin ? I know it recover a lot of HP when they get resurected but do bishop forgot they have heal skill ? Do bishop forgot their main role ? Furthermore, Paladins need HP to deal more damage and Heal cost less MP than Revival . You know it's annoying for High wizard or enchanter having to heal MP of bishops every 20 seconds. Hahaha! This is tooo funny. The standards for Bishops are lowering it seems, im just curious what boss did you farm? Did you bring it up with them? What did they say ect...I tend to keep to myself in Iruna these days because of things like this xD |
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