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Post by Pixie on Apr 23, 2016 16:12:06 GMT
int dex seems to have the biggest benefit... do you think maxing agi or vit is better? i have a mix of the two for enchanter like play but have higher vit.... i can solo some bosses but havent uped skills yet other than production lol whats your thoughts?
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Post by Ryukengan on Apr 23, 2016 16:45:04 GMT
int dex seems to have the biggest benefit... do you think maxing agi or vit is better? i have a mix of the two for enchanter like play but have higher vit.... i can solo some bosses but havent uped skills yet other than production lol whats your thoughts? Depends on if you want to weave in some autos or rely on skill spam only, your passive skill suggest that AGI would indeed be useful so you can use magic weapons to do average DPS, however if you want to go for pure damage INT/DEX/VIT is the way to go and Alchemist just got a huge update on JP version 13 hours ago, they implemented skills up to lvl 300 for them! This happened before Beast Knight or Servant got their new skills so I'm assuming they will follow soon. I have not found any videos with the new skills yet though but it seems to go more towards the skill spam side. |
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Post by Ryukengan on Apr 23, 2016 16:47:52 GMT
Copy paste from irunablog.iruna.jp/:Learning level Lv100 / Lv160 / Lv220 Skill name type SLv / learning method (New) Mana Barrett Active SLv1 / skill of calligraphy (New) Mana Barrett Active SLv2 / skill of calligraphy (New) Mana Barrett Active SLv3 / skill of calligraphy Learning level Lv240 Skill name type SLv / learning method (New) Brad throw Active SLv1 / skill Quest Suroribaita Active SLv2 / skill of calligraphy Efishiensu passive SLv2 / skill Quest Killer throw Active SLv4 / skill of calligraphy Learning level Lv260 Skill name type SLv / learning method (New) toxicity strengthening passive SLv1 / skill Quest Medicinal strengthening passive SLv2 / skill of calligraphy Ice Fleur Active SLv3 / skill Quest Benomubomu Active SLv4 / skill of calligraphy Learning level Lv280 Skill name type SLv / learning method (New) Kasurein Active SLv1 / skill Quest Meteor impact Active SLv3 / skill Quest Craft sense passive SLv4 / skill of calligraphy (New) Mana Barrett Active SLv4 / skill of calligraphy Learning level Lv300 Skill name type SLv / learning method (New) Accelerated Active SLv1 / skill Quest (New) Brad throw Active SLv2 / skill of calligraphy Heizuribaita Active SLv4 / skill of calligraphy |
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Post by ✴Akatosh on Apr 27, 2016 3:10:59 GMT
int dex seems to have the biggest benefit... do you think maxing agi or vit is better? i have a mix of the two for enchanter like play but have higher vit.... i can solo some bosses but havent uped skills yet other than production lol whats your thoughts? Depends on if you want to weave in some autos or rely on skill spam only, your passive skill suggest that AGI would indeed be useful so you can use magic weapons to do average DPS, however if you want to go for pure damage INT/DEX/VIT is the way to go and Alchemist just got a huge update on JP version 13 hours ago, they implemented skills up to lvl 300 for them! This happened before Beast Knight or Servant got their new skills so I'm assuming they will follow soon. I have not found any videos with the new skills yet though but it seems to go more towards the skill spam side. Isnt int dex vit agi are more pure damage than int dex vit(sounds more like tank for me)because you can use magic amp to increase your matk by agi? |
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Post by Ryukengan on Apr 27, 2016 12:52:37 GMT
Depends on if you want to weave in some autos or rely on skill spam only, your passive skill suggest that AGI would indeed be useful so you can use magic weapons to do average DPS, however if you want to go for pure damage INT/DEX/VIT is the way to go and Alchemist just got a huge update on JP version 13 hours ago, they implemented skills up to lvl 300 for them! This happened before Beast Knight or Servant got their new skills so I'm assuming they will follow soon. I have not found any videos with the new skills yet though but it seems to go more towards the skill spam side. Isnt int dex vit agi are more pure damage than int dex vit(sounds more like tank for me)because you can use magic amp to increase your matk by agi? No because you get way more MATK by using Struggler, the Spell Burst on it is also really good. On top of that if you get too much ASPD you would weave in auto attacks in between your spells, auto attacks generally will always do lower damage than a skill spam oriented build. That would force you to use equip to decrease your ASPD, sacrifcing even more potential DPS. |
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Post by ✴Akatosh on Apr 27, 2016 14:12:36 GMT
Isnt int dex vit agi are more pure damage than int dex vit(sounds more like tank for me)because you can use magic amp to increase your matk by agi? No because you get way more MATK by using Struggler, the Spell Burst on it is also really good. On top of that if you get too much ASPD you would weave in auto attacks in between your spells, auto attacks generally will always do lower damage than a skill spam oriented build. That would force you to use equip to decrease your ASPD, sacrifcing even more potential DPS. Struggler have a cap matk can give you Based on this irunaonline.boards.net/thread/13276/spellboosting-bishop?page=5Famine say at 175 vit you can get a 700 matk(still going yo test on my alt hw)so if u maxed int dex then go 175 vit after that cap your int then put some agi to use magic amp to increase more matk. And btw i dont mind spamming because i run after i cast because alchemist drain is only lvl 1 so spamming skill while tanking is not ideal for alchemist unlike bishop or hw that have more tanking capabilities. Ps i tried int dex vit and it sucks that i try to tank at nommar so i can spam my skill but because of our drain level its a matter of time until you get killed unless you use some hp pots.so for me its still better to run and cast stragety than tank and spam stragety |
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Post by Pixie on May 27, 2016 12:47:39 GMT
I think my leveling spot is megas. My current set:
Dia espada
struggler s moldus
ciel up s auto 1
Gaiety ring
My damage is more consistant than magia/sush/jupiter set. I dont have dual blow and mwave seem to proc more. spellboost dmg is 11-12.5k and spellburst dmg 18-20k. I kill mega like 1m ea. this is the only way i can level at the moment without farming loads of mats for skills xD
My casting set is
Espimere iii sofys/swapping spellbook v.4
struggler moldus
ecarlete ushilith
magical ring/swapping for coral hairpin when i finally find for add dmg.
hoping this is useful for magic bullets when that skill comes out xD
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Post by Ryukengan on May 27, 2016 16:39:30 GMT
What I've seen is that on JP before the new skills came out at least most people used dark elemental auto sets to farm Yarde.
Most popular one according to a JP player was:
Dark Book 3 s Enfar
Emido s Enfar
Booster up s Tarna
Gaiety s Enfar
Not sure how they survived, maybe they've got a lot of Evasion but apparently it works.
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Post by Pixie on May 31, 2016 6:19:47 GMT
With vit build its possible to solo yarde they dont hit to hard with all around its easy... Its just that 1 hit ko thing that sucks xD Would dajarte also work? I imagine probably cheaper option since not holiday exclusive...
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Post by helper on Aug 7, 2016 0:42:46 GMT
Hi everyone, I just wanted to share my build that I'm working on. Currently I am 335 and leveling up apos levels. What I use whether it is right or wrong, is seele bow, ultimi re-re-up with iniliba xstal, monty berete with raton xstal, thimble slot with wol xstal. So basically I run int, dex, crt, vit, mostly auto a attacker but can phase switch to say throwing for the new snare skill that will be out. Also can phase switch to forbidden book for bigger spells. Key points with my build is enchant skill with a balance of attack and magic power leaning more for higher attack for maximum kill throw damage.
Anyways I am still building up and working on my toon, but that's where I'm at now.
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Post by Pixie on Aug 8, 2016 2:02:21 GMT
Hi everyone, I just wanted to share my build that I'm working on. Currently I am 335 and leveling up apos levels. What I use whether it is right or wrong, is seele bow, ultimi re-re-up with iniliba xstal, monty berete with raton xstal, thimble slot with wol xstal. So basically I run int, dex, crt, vit, mostly auto a attacker but can phase switch to say throwing for the new snare skill that will be out. Also can phase switch to forbidden book for bigger spells. Key points with my build is enchant skill with a balance of attack and magic power leaning more for higher attack for maximum kill throw damage. Anyways I am still building up and working on my toon, but that's where I'm at now. You use dual blow? sound kinda like u spam kill throw |
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Post by helper on Aug 9, 2016 1:00:26 GMT
Yeah, Dual blow, kill stick spam, but im not super concerned with raising auto skill chance. Honestly I just wanted to use "Magic weapons" to get enchant bonus. Alchemist is almost in a conundrum because of the enchant skill really doesn't mesh perfectly with the majority of magic skills. You end up with larger delay for the spells because of not using a staff. Multiple gear sets and switching gear seems to me to be the only way to get the most out of alchemist. Having a high magic set seems to be the highest possible damage atm with bloom. The fun ends soon though when you run out of skill items. The same with kill stick, it will be nice to see how this new bullet skill plays out. I do get annoyed that enchant skill does not help the majority of alchemist skills atm.
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Post by Pixie on Aug 9, 2016 1:19:18 GMT
Yeah, Dual blow, kill stick spam, but im not super concerned with raising auto skill chance. Honestly I just wanted to use "Magic weapons" to get enchant bonus. Alchemist is almost in a conundrum because of the enchant skill really doesn't mesh perfectly with the majority of magic skills. You end up with larger delay for the spells because of not using a staff. Multiple gear sets and switching gear seems to me to be the only way to get the most out of alchemist. Having a high magic set seems to be the highest possible damage atm with bloom. The fun ends soon though when you run out of skill items. The same with kill stick, it will be nice to see how this new bullet skill plays out. I do get annoyed that enchant skill does not help the majority of alchemist skills atm. have u tried using a magoc staff like neve rod or witchknife? I thought the same way. I think alchemist gets a neutral magic passive because my dia struggler ciel up set did about 15-20k mana waves no xtals with spell boosting. Only did about 6-8k with bishop... I hated running out of mats then having to refarm... I wish they had a no mat aoe skill even if lower damage... |
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Post by helper on Aug 9, 2016 1:24:22 GMT
Not yet, I will test out some of these.
This looks interesting as well.
Hiereus [Bows]
Effect: ATK: 264-274-279 Magic Bow MATK +10% Evasion +10% Autoskills +8% Adds MATK +8% INT +10 Evasion +10% if AGI > 299
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Post by nejaco on Feb 10, 2017 22:31:35 GMT
Does creating a bow alchemist work... I've look everywhere and i havent been able to find anything about it... do u thing you could help?
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