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Post by simprince on Nov 18, 2015 19:02:50 GMT
I am a lvl 193 pally and don't plan to do mq any more. I have been trying to find a way to level while not losing spina. When I get a pt with bishop, no problem with farming. But when there is no bishop or when I solo, the onigiri and salt consumption is too much that it exceeds the earning.
Schlingel - I can kill it easily without using any hp/mp potions during battle. To avoid using any potions, I then sit till hp/mp full and kill it again. Not very effective particularly I can get poisoned from the boss
Finstern - An even easier boss but again, sit time is shorter but the drop is not great compared to Schlingel.
Ghosts - The exp is decent but since it is a mob, I can't safely sit to recover sometimes.
If I spam potions, the expense to buy onigiri and salt often exceeds the item earning. I read from forum that 160+ pally should get pt easily but I don't feel the same. It is definitely better but still not very warmly welcome compared to bishop, hw, ninja, minstrel at my level.
So I appreciate your help as where to level to at least not lose $$$
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Gabby~
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Post by Gabby~ on Nov 18, 2015 19:04:10 GMT
Just farm all your recovery items? I guess that might be easy on your loss.
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Post by simprince on Nov 18, 2015 19:06:20 GMT
Just farm all your recovery items? I guess that might be easy on your loss. While I farm those recovery items, I use them at the same time I can't find a better way than just leeching with my bishop at sites like shiki-onis. But this basically locks my bishop to do certain things, which I hate.
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Post by Crysta| on Nov 18, 2015 22:12:49 GMT
When you're farming a boss make a group chat "lfm (insert boss name)" this should help find parties.
When solo try using replica gauntlet and knight necklace to reduce potion consumption.
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Post by super n00b on Nov 18, 2015 22:49:05 GMT
If you don't want to waste pots, do what I see other pally's do when they solo farm... They usually just sit down for a minute or so then get back to farming. Saves them spina and pots..
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Post by ◇•Viridian•◇ (C.B) on Nov 18, 2015 23:19:02 GMT
TC, why not farm SP rev ale's? Obligaus near schlingel has the easy perhaps bit boring quest.. XP quest is bitter wine if I remember correctly... Which you can do either with pally or your bishop. Also get some cracked mage ore from Locochiros, it heals a decent amount of mp for a long time. (Every bit helps imho)
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bravebor
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Post by bravebor on Nov 18, 2015 23:25:06 GMT
My solution to this is pretty simple lol. I'm a pal and I feel your pain bud, where I could've been off on mq with guildies and friends, in early days for me I actually took some solid time out from mq and lvling to work on lvling prod to the point it could pay for itself and keep me stocked with pots that I need. You kinda need higher lvl prod to really do well with it tho lol so a lot of patients is required.
Another thing you could try is, get yourself an HP reward kit like I've done recently i.e zweig shield off botaniga (heal up by vit, upgrade is by2 of vit) knights necklace for its heal reward (there's another spec equip from that mob near bw with +5% heal reward) and leather coat up with its 1k heal reward. These basically free you up from needing HP pots and tho with the lower HP you won't be hitting as hard, there are still alot of lower lvl mobs you could effectively aoe farm to sell their drops for enough spina to get you by. In a lot of these areas to that you would farm these lower lvl mobs there's usually others farming there also so it's easy to make a pt and effectively double what your getting.
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Post by simprince on Nov 18, 2015 23:40:21 GMT
My solution to this is pretty simple lol. I'm a pal and I feel your pain bud, where I could've been off on mq with guildies and friends, in early days for me I actually took some solid time out from mq and lvling to work on lvling prod to the point it could pay for itself and keep me stocked with pots that I need. You kinda need higher lvl prod to really do well with it tho lol so a lot of patients is required. Another thing you could try is, get yourself an HP reward kit like I've done recently i.e zweig shield off botaniga (heal up by vit, upgrade is by2 of vit) knights necklace for its heal reward (there's another spec equip from that mob near bw with +5% heal reward) and leather coat up with its 1k heal reward. These basically free you up from needing HP pots and tho with the lower HP you won't be hitting as hard, there are still alot of lower lvl mobs you could effectively aoe farm to sell their drops for enough spina to get you by. In a lot of these areas to that you would farm these lower lvl mobs there's usually others farming there also so it's easy to make a pt and effectively double what your getting. This is a great point! Can hp rewards work with potion? Or does it work only on heal magic? For +1k heal reward, if I drink revita s, do I still get +10xx hp?
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bravebor
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to slack to give a damn, yet to bored to not say anything...
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Post by bravebor on Nov 19, 2015 1:44:11 GMT
Only from skill. For more from pots you need things that give +item recovery increase the amount healed per % idk for items, but there's a few out there but I do know medical 1 2 & 3 from alchemy are extals that increase the amounts pots heal by 10, 20 & 30%
Also if you want to go further with heal rec set, keep farming botaniga lol, it's xtal is the only 1 I've found that gives heal rec also (up by vit) there might be others but I didn't see any when I looked over @caporals list of xtals.
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mokie
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Post by mokie on Nov 19, 2015 5:48:23 GMT
This is what my build stand for. \(>.<)/
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Post by Jeancarlo on Nov 19, 2015 18:52:23 GMT
So I appreciate your help as where to level to at least not lose $$$ Use a class that doesn't bleed spina. PLD is probably one of the worst class to farm mobs with unless you really know what you're doing. If you really Must use PLD, then look into minimizing your pot use.
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Post by simprince on Nov 19, 2015 19:11:55 GMT
So I appreciate your help as where to level to at least not lose $$$ Use a class that doesn't bleed spina. PLD is probably one of the worst class to farm mobs with unless you really know what you're doing. If you really Must use PLD, then look into minimizing your pot use. I feel the same. My main is bishop and I so get used to self recover without any potion. Keep spamming nemesis all day long. Farming non-boss is so easy. But boss fight is nightmare. Even Altardora is a bit dangerous for my bishop. I build pally to fill the gap of not able to fight boss.
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Post by MiLiGRiTo on Nov 19, 2015 23:07:08 GMT
I've tried gears and xtals that make auto hp recovery but found none of them as effective as using onigiri+ altadora.
You should never go solo with guardian unless it is very necessary. When I was at your level, I did farm schlingel solo but I will stick to a party as much as I can. Exelis was very lucrative back then so I was able to support my pots consumption.
Solo killing bosses are easy. Solo grinding them is not. So I went to grow my gears and level to be an effective solo grind. I grew my spina solo grinding mezza moldus zazel and ulshilth. 1xtal drop was able to pay for my pots + profit depending on my drop rate. But still party whenever I can. With anybody, because they will help shorten grinding time and make you consume less pots. There are a lot of times a party with 3ninjas because they are just so many.
You need to reach a point where your pots cost become insignificant.
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Post by simprince on Nov 20, 2015 19:39:28 GMT
I've tried gears and xtals that make auto hp recovery but found none of them as effective as using onigiri+ altadora. You should never go solo with guardian unless it is very necessary. When I was at your level, I did farm schlingel solo but I will stick to a party as much as I can. Exelis was very lucrative back then so I was able to support my pots consumption. Solo killing bosses are easy. Solo grinding them is not. So I went to grow my gears and level to be an effective solo grind. I grew my spina solo grinding mezza moldus zazel and ulshilth. 1xtal drop was able to pay for my pots + profit depending on my drop rate. But still party whenever I can. With anybody, because they will help shorten grinding time and make you consume less pots. There are a lot of times a party with 3ninjas because they are just so many. You need to reach a point where your pots cost become insignificant. Exe and its xtal are still very tempting now. Last night, I joined a pt with ninja and bishop farming Himmel and the worm boss that drop materials to make spell boost. I bought an empty and make spell boost then. Making 2 spell boost a night. Not earning a lot but not too bad.
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