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Post by ace51618 on Oct 26, 2015 19:08:02 GMT
How many threads on this do you have? Speedhack will not stop unless Iruna is shut down, or it's removed from the app store of the most common device that's using such programmes. (Which, avoiding any actual labelling, seems to be mainly based off the Android users. But doing such a thing will result in a huge loss of income.)
Just let Asobimo deal with the issue themselves; if you have any input, email them. Don't make multiple threads on a forum about the same thing. Giving out names of speedhack users will do nothing - yes, they will be known, but nothing will be done about it.
Ryu asked if it was ideal to name and shame people, seemingly some kind of attack on said users. I'm not entirely sure if it's being done or not, but I have a strong doubt that it will be done.
Accusing every player who attacks at a fast rate is wrong. As someone stated above, it could be Interfike. It could also be Scarlet Ribbon, it could be autoskill proc, Rush, bonuses from equips. You have NO LEGITIMATE proof of ANYONE using speedhack unless the user has admitted to doing so or you waste your day looking at other users.
Speedhacking in Iruna is exactly the same as scamming. Never happened when the game was launched, one person started to do it and it escalated from there. There are few ways of stopping it and 1 or 2 ways of doing so without losing a large amount of income.
All I can say is; deal with it. If someone is sh'ing at a grind spot you go to commonly, find an alternative. Ignore those people and get on with your game. If you're more concerned about people being at risk of a ban than the enjoyment of your own gameplay, you need to re-evaluate your choices. Just enjoy the game and stop whining about this issue; it will never have a fairy tale ending.
Just pointing this out but u can tell if they hack by the way they walk fike rush etc walk normally sh users do a derpy glitchish walk ur whole argument isnt 100% wrong but doing nothing will get nowhere while doing something has a chance although little of actually suceeding sh users dont bother me to the same extent as Crystal but they do bother me to the point where i am willing to go along with her and not party/trade with them at the very least although i myself am too lazy to report every single person who uses sh and go to the extremes of some people but as long as some people actually do it who knows how things will turn out maybe asobimo will finally take notice and do something or maybe they will just ignore it or do the minimal they can to satisfy people with "oh look they changed security sh gone now yay"only ones who know r asobimo and the people creating the hacks themselves P.S i know i dont space or seperate anything but as said above im lazy~ u should be able to get my point anyways Actually they jump around the map you cant see the sped up animation |
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Post by fcbarcelona on Oct 26, 2015 19:25:45 GMT
People in the forum community is only like 25%, speed hackers in iruna 75% . asobimo not gonna ban sh just so the 25% forum people can be happy, if they do it means the game dies by 75% , 75% less population of the game, 75% less coin purchases. Protest all you want stop pt, stop trading with them, but I'm not. If that sh has a item I want then I'm gonna get it from them and go on with my business , while others who protest stay at rokoko waiting and waiting to buy that item. If farming I'll pt with them , I'll use them to my advantage and let them kill while I do no work,Saves me lots of time. I do the smart thing not the idiot follower thing.
I'm not gonna be part of no protest to get sh ban that will be wasting my time. You guys do that for me I'll be on iruna playing peacefully.
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Post by ace51618 on Oct 26, 2015 20:27:20 GMT
Lmao "We know who you are" my ass they could be using a fike gor all you know i find it funny everyone makes a big deal abt a small thing because it doesnt matter people will always find a way to sh no matter what and they dont care what you think they really dont, ryu is going aginst the fourm rules because making that thread is a personal attack aginst the people who do sh and its public shame let them play how they want if you dont like it turn party only on dont adknowladge it and certianly dont party with them and dont bring it up if you dont like speed hack then why keep bringing it up your not the android police its a game let people have fun and not interfear with your fun and if you disconect alot check your connection and get better conection because i play on my 4g and disconect like once a week Oh look kids doing drugs in school, let's do nothing about it coz its not like it's affecting the kids that aren't doing it, let's just turn our heads from it like it isn't there and their lives won't be wrecked. It's not like anything will happen to a game because ppl cause bugs in it by sh and bot. Oh wait...where did celes arca go... First off iruna is a game, keep that in mind second you cannot compare the two because its a game and real life third it doesnt effect the kids who doesnt do drugs, atleast 1/3 of my school does drugs an the 2/3 doesnt effect them none its not ruining their lifes none |
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Post by bravebor on Oct 26, 2015 20:33:44 GMT
Oh look kids doing drugs in school, let's do nothing about it coz its not like it's affecting the kids that aren't doing it, let's just turn our heads from it like it isn't there and their lives won't be wrecked. It's not like anything will happen to a game because ppl cause bugs in it by sh and bot. Oh wait...where did celes arca go... First off iruna is a game, keep that in mind second you cannot compare the two because its a game and real life third it doesnt effect the kids who doesnt do drugs, atleast 1/3 of my school does drugs an the 2/3 doesnt effect them none its not ruining their lifes none 1st off, herb does not count as drug, every1 experiments with that. And 2ndly regardless whether it's in game or irl it is dealing with real, live people, so same rules apply regardless. 3rdly, you can't tell me what messes people up and what doesn't as you obviously haven't been around long enough to see and understand the impacts of these things down the road. |
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Post by bravebor on Oct 26, 2015 20:36:18 GMT
Crystal made this thread? Wow surprise 0.0 and I thought it was shiruyui...
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Post by Crysta| on Oct 26, 2015 20:39:31 GMT
Crystal made this thread? Wow surprise 0.0 and I thought it was shiruyui... I did not... |
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Post by bravebor on Oct 26, 2015 20:45:39 GMT
People in the forum community is only like 25%, speed hackers in iruna 75% . asobimo not gonna ban sh just so the 25% forum people can be happy, if they do it means the game dies by 75% , 75% less population of the game, 75% less coin purchases. Protest all you want stop pt, stop trading with them, but I'm not. If that sh has a item I want then I'm gonna get it from them and go on with my business , while others who protest stay at rokoko waiting and waiting to buy that item. If farming I'll pt with them , I'll use them to my advantage and let them kill while I do no work,Saves me lots of time. I do the smart thing not the idiot follower thing. I'm not gonna be part of no protest to get sh ban that will be wasting my time. You guys do that for me I'll be on iruna playing peacefully. People that cheat make up the greater % of people that honestly pay for what they want? Wow that's news to me, I mean that their honest enough to pay for it. Pretty sure about only way they get that money is from the small % of people pathetic enough to pay real money for a virtual currency, and which by doing are going against asibioms policies also. Don't worry, these are all ss as I see them to mail into asobimo later on. And believe me when I say I do chase these 1s also and only the most retardedly persistent will hang around when I start. I've arrived in rkk to see 4 of these ppl selling and I just so happened to take out that days bad mood on them, they didn't hang around long. |
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Post by Nyx on Oct 26, 2015 20:49:30 GMT
Crystal made this thread? Wow surprise 0.0 and I thought it was shiruyui... I did not... read:7 posts up(maybe 6 or 8) |
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Post by bravebor on Oct 26, 2015 21:00:09 GMT
Namitsuki Jeancarlo I don't want to see this thread locked for a small % of people that don't agree, but this is getting out of hand...
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Post by Namitsuki on Oct 26, 2015 22:05:03 GMT
Cleaned up the thread removing the offensive posts, let me know if I missed any by hitting the report button.
Now, I hope everyone got to express their opinions, but it's time to calm down. We can have heated arguments, but we cant have a flame war.
Remember that people of many different age groups, countries, cultures, etc, play the game and frequent this forum.
Not everyone will agree with you. Not everyone will be mature enough to listen to the reasoning of the opposite party. And that is all OK if you don't take it personally.
So keep it clean. If you wanna settle something with someone do it through message. No need to drag everyone into this.
For the one that are confused, many of the last posts where moved here from another thread, since here was where they belong (topic wise).
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Post by lacs on Oct 26, 2015 23:44:19 GMT
There was someone saying something about knowing if we can know if it is speed hack or interfike or any buff from other equipment, and yes! It can be easily seen (only on good phones with good internet connection) there are a lot of differences
1- glitched attack animation: some or all of the attacks are not animated from start to finish, when using interfike you can see the attack animation goes faster, when using sh the attack animation does not look complete
2- attacking before reaching the enemy and moving while attacking: this is easy to look
3-skill delay lower than 1 sec: also easy to see
4- when walking, you see them just disappearing and appearing in front
All of there are really easy to see, also, some people just accept they do sh, they think they are cooler or something, they look like really fast pies, a real strong player does not depend on speed hacks, glitchs or bugs to be better, if you want to play and cheat, go play solitary with real cards and do whatever you want.
Also I read someone said "it's just a game" you are not just "playing" you are having interaction with real life people, that have feelings, it is an RPG, do you even know what RPG stands for? Rol playing game, this means you have to stay in character, you must be and feel what you are, if you don't like this, then go play Mario or minecraft or bloodborne or whatever alone
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Post by zerox on Oct 27, 2015 7:04:22 GMT
You said that "The only reason there are so many sh in game is only because there are so many cowards and hypocrites who refuse to speak out against it...", well actually this is not the only reason. Lot of sh'ers will give a zero f*** to ppl who go against them and those sh'ers will keep doing what they do as long as they always can access the way to use SH (That's their nature, and you can't change ppl nature so easily especially ppl who don't know who you are and never meet you in person and it will take a lot of effort to change someones nature, even your sibling or other family member). So, this sh problem won't get solved, unless asobimo close all the way to use sh by making this game for non-root phone only. But this way is not possible since a lot player got their phone rooted and it will surely make the developer lost lots of profit if they do this.
And... asobimo tried solving this problem using the other way, improving their app security and this is the only thing that asobimo do. But, those hacker always find a way to counter it and make those app security thing looks like a bullsh**. Who is those hacker? they are the one who made MOD VERSION of IRUNA. So, I would say the scapegoat behind all of this SH problem is those MODDER.
Well, just for information, those modders can't MOD the SH app, cz if they do it, the MOD version of SH will not work because a lot of iruna modder are newbie in android app programming. So, the only thing they can mod now is Iruna app itself to make it can't detect any sh app which has installed in their phone. If asobimo can do something about this, preventing their app get modded, then those sh'ers will not have a way to access any SH.
Well, from those explanation, I would say that the root cause of this sh problem is MOD version of iruna. As long as those MODDER can make a MOD version of iruna, there will always sh'ers run around in iruna world no matter what. So, it's not about ppl who use this sh, but about the available way to use those sh.
Than what can we do? I don't know since I rarely play this game anymore. I just wanna say this so instead of debating about ppl who use sh, just give an input about how to CLOSE any available way to use those sh app (other than make this game for non-rooted phone only).
Why i said this? because I've seen a thread about putting all of sh'ers name on it and make it visible in order to make them feel ashame of what they do and make other ppl avoid them. Well, i would say this solution will not work, if their character name has been caught and put in that thread (and maybe get banned too by asobimo) they simply make another char by using another gmail in other word, they won't stop using SH.
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Post by bravebor on Oct 27, 2015 8:20:13 GMT
You said that "The only reason there are so many sh in game is only because there are so many cowards and hypocrites who refuse to speak out against it...", well actually this is not the only reason. Lot of sh'ers will give a zero f*** to ppl who go against them and those sh'ers will keep doing what they do as long as they always can access the way to use SH (That's their nature, and you can't change ppl nature so easily especially ppl who don't know who you are and never meet you in person and it will take a lot of effort to change someones nature, even your sibling or other family member). So, this sh problem won't get solved, unless asobimo close all the way to use sh by making this game for non-root phone only. But this way is not possible since a lot player got their phone rooted and it will surely make the developer lost lots of profit if they do this. And... asobimo tried solving this problem using the other way, improving their app security and this is the only thing that asobimo do. But, those hacker always find a way to counter it and make those app security thing looks like a bullsh**. Who is those hacker? they are the one who made MOD VERSION of IRUNA. So, I would say the scapegoat behind all of this SH problem is those MODDER. Well, just for information, those modders can't MOD the SH app, cz if they do it, the MOD version of SH will not work because a lot of iruna modder are newbie in android app programming. So, the only thing they can mod now is Iruna app itself to make it can't detect any sh app which has installed in their phone. If asobimo can do something about this, preventing their app get modded, then those sh'ers will not have a way to access any SH. Well, from those explanation, I would say that the root cause of this sh problem is MOD version of iruna. As long as those MODDER can make a MOD version of iruna, there will always sh'ers run around in iruna world no matter what. So, it's not about ppl who use this sh, but about the available way to use those sh. Than what can we do? I don't know since I rarely play this game anymore. I just wanna say this so instead of debating about ppl who use sh, just give an input about how to CLOSE any available way to use those sh app (other than make this game for non-rooted phone only). Why i said this? because I've seen a thread about putting all of sh'ers name on it and make it visible in order to make them feel ashame of what they do and make other ppl avoid them. Well, i would say this solution will not work, if their character name has been caught and put in that thread (and maybe get banned too by asobimo) they simply make another char by using another gmail in other word, they won't stop using SH. *sighs* read what I said again will you. Where did I say anything about stopping people already using sh? My aim is to create awareness for the newer players of the hazards of sh to the game and to create a stigma around it's use by being visible in speaking out against it thereby creating a deterrent to new players who begin to use it because they believe it is an accepted thing only because no1 is speaking out against it. Less ppl to begin using sh=less people to fill in as other sh users get bored and leave the game. |
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Post by ace51618 on Oct 29, 2015 20:07:09 GMT
First off iruna is a game, keep that in mind second you cannot compare the two because its a game and real life third it doesnt effect the kids who doesnt do drugs, atleast 1/3 of my school does drugs an the 2/3 doesnt effect them none its not ruining their lifes none 1st off, herb does not count as drug, every1 experiments with that. And 2ndly regardless whether it's in game or irl it is dealing with real, live people, so same rules apply regardless. 3rdly, you can't tell me what messes people up and what doesn't as you obviously haven't been around long enough to see and understand the impacts of these things down the road. Did i say weed? No and im a beta player dude and same rules dont nearly apply you just want to keep arguring this pointless argument |
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Post by bravebor on Oct 29, 2015 20:28:44 GMT
1st off, herb does not count as drug, every1 experiments with that. And 2ndly regardless whether it's in game or irl it is dealing with real, live people, so same rules apply regardless. 3rdly, you can't tell me what messes people up and what doesn't as you obviously haven't been around long enough to see and understand the impacts of these things down the road. Did i say weed? No and im a beta player dude and same rules dont nearly apply you just want to keep arguring this pointless argument Haha kid wtf does being a beta player have to do with anything? There's a generation gap here in which you could say I've played a prior version of the game called life. The key point I was getting at is yes it is a game, but it is dealing with real live people and my references to rl scenarios apply just as much to interactions between people in this game and how the conduct themselves as they do in the real world. |
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