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Post by Vetkin on Jul 13, 2015 7:12:36 GMT
Hi,
I saw a normal claw and throwing monk but now i wonder what kind of special claw monk can be.
Special claw that i use is state knuckle and it raise attack with str & crit. So if i go crit>str>int would that be good enough?
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Post by maou on Jul 13, 2015 17:20:05 GMT
But no eva or aspd... How are you going to survive? Since eva is our defense..
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Post by asderota on Jul 14, 2015 4:52:19 GMT
Is already confirmated ? the far ik is that stake knuckle give +4 per str point + 1 per critical, but still when i use it the atck dont raise that high even with 256 str, somewhere i read that it gain +2 str +2crt, first confirm that raise value.
second: full int full srt full crt thats spam build, if u want some different for stake then full agi (eva) full str (dmg) full int (dmg-mdef-heal) full vit(surv), why not crt?, well the dmg get from a non crt dmg always ll be the same, like deal 5000normal ll be 5000critical u can use elemental dmages aswell because ur vit and int ll be enought to play around also ur evade.
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mokie
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Post by mokie on Jul 14, 2015 18:02:23 GMT
Is already confirmated ? the far ik is that stake knuckle give +4 per str point + 1 per critical, but still when i use it the atck dont raise that high even with 256 str, somewhere i read that it gain +2 str +2crt, first confirm that raise value. second: full int full srt full crt thats spam build, if u want some different for stake then full agi (eva) full str (dmg) full int (dmg-mdef-heal) full vit(surv), why not crt?, well the dmg get from a non crt dmg always ll be the same, like deal 5000normal ll be 5000critical u can use elemental dmages aswell because ur vit and int ll be enought to play around also ur evade. It's true that special claw give +4atk per str and +1atk per crt, but aspd will be stop at 80. I also think about INT=STR>CRT monk too. That will be super high damage geo build, but the problem is delay. It's hard to cover all 7.7 delay with only int and gears. |
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Post by Vetkin on Jul 14, 2015 21:12:12 GMT
Ahh... thats is it... no wonder my monk attack so slow... so... geo will be little slow even with max int... due to that, current special claw still not enough for now... and doesnt geo stack with crit? How come thrwing still use crit as their main stat too? I kinda confuse with the statement provided above... and i do agree with low eva... currently atm i am lvl 201 monk with agi=crit>str>vit feeling like something missing... low kind of low damage but somehow still managed to stay alive...
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Post by Jeancarlo on Jul 14, 2015 22:31:33 GMT
Ahh... thats is it... no wonder my monk attack so slow... so... geo will be little slow even with max int... due to that, current special claw still not enough for now... and doesnt geo stack with crit? How come thrwing still use crit as their main stat too? I kinda confuse with the statement provided above... and i do agree with low eva... currently atm i am lvl 201 monk with agi=crit>str>vit feeling like something missing... low kind of low damage but somehow still managed to stay alive... CRT is needed for CRT DMG, but it does not affect your (Throw) ATTACK numbers as such. Throw is 2STR/2INT/1DEX Same thing for Normal claws 2STR/2AGI and no CRT component on ATTACK but CRT affects your CRT DMG which you really want as a monk on either build. |
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Post by Capicuo on Jul 27, 2015 12:18:26 GMT
- Stake knuckle ☆Quick cool 5 (-0'5)
- Exelis reup ☆Quick cool 5 (-2)
- Barbarotita up ☆Quick cool 5 (-1'5)
- Next Al xtal (-1)
- Overcapped INT (390 INT = -3'2)
So this build wont be effective till ur monk is lv cap with INT lv cap and nex Al and barbarotita up get released.
The only use I see for this claw atm is if Rush may affect it and u can get aspd near max aspd, but dont really know it.
Edit: Stake nuckle stat is aspd become minumum or aspd -100%? Bcuz the add gear dropped by miedo colong may counter it.
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Yazmat
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Post by Yazmat on Jul 27, 2015 13:09:08 GMT
- Stake knuckle ☆Quick cool 5 (-0'5) - Exelis reup ☆Quick cool 5 (-2) - Barbarotita up ☆Quick cool 5 (-1'5) - Next Al xtal (-1) - Overcapped INT (390 INT = -3'2) So this build wont be effective till ur monk is lv cap with INT lv cap and nex Al and barbarotita up get released. The only use I see for this claw atm is if Rush may affect it and u can get aspd near max aspd, but dont really know it. Edit: Stake nuckle stat is aspd become minumum or aspd -100%? Bcuz the add gear dropped by miedo colong may counter it. All those Quick Cool 5 is a waste of money since it will get downgraded, better say: |
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Post by Capicuo on Jul 27, 2015 17:15:32 GMT
- Stake knuckle ☆Quick cool 5 (-0'5) - Exelis reup ☆Quick cool 5 (-2) - Barbarotita up ☆Quick cool 5 (-1'5) - Next Al xtal (-1) - Overcapped INT (390 INT = -3'2) So this build wont be effective till ur monk is lv cap with INT lv cap and nex Al and barbarotita up get released. The only use I see for this claw atm is if Rush may affect it and u can get aspd near max aspd, but dont really know it. Edit: Stake nuckle stat is aspd become minumum or aspd -100%? Bcuz the add gear dropped by miedo colong may counter it. All those Quick Cool 5 is a waste of money since it will get downgraded, better say: Yep, I'm idiot... I forgot it. Thank u for correction ^.^ |
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Yazmat
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Post by Yazmat on Jul 27, 2015 17:17:06 GMT
All those Quick Cool 5 is a waste of money since it will get downgraded, better say: Yep, I'm idiot... I forgot it. Thank u for correction ^.^ Forgetting does not make of you an idiot LoL |
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Post by Umaru-chan on Jul 28, 2015 12:21:51 GMT
- Stake knuckle ☆Quick cool 5 (-0'5) - Exelis reup ☆Quick cool 5 (-2) - Barbarotita up ☆Quick cool 5 (-1'5) - Next Al xtal (-1) - Overcapped INT (390 INT = -3'2) So this build wont be effective till ur monk is lv cap with INT lv cap and nex Al and barbarotita up get released. The only use I see for this claw atm is if Rush may affect it and u can get aspd near max aspd, but dont really know it. Edit: Stake nuckle stat is aspd become minumum or aspd -100%? Bcuz the add gear dropped by miedo colong may counter it. Tentacion Matadora is also nice hehe |
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ravage
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Post by ravage on Jul 30, 2015 9:44:45 GMT
- Stake knuckle ☆Quick cool 5 (-0'5) - Exelis reup ☆Quick cool 5 (-2) - Barbarotita up ☆Quick cool 5 (-1'5) - Next Al xtal (-1) - Overcapped INT (390 INT = -3'2) So this build wont be effective till ur monk is lv cap with INT lv cap and nex Al and barbarotita up get released. The only use I see for this claw atm is if Rush may affect it and u can get aspd near max aspd, but dont really know it. Edit: Stake nuckle stat is aspd become minumum or aspd -100%? Bcuz the add gear dropped by miedo colong may counter it. I had stake knuckles only for a short time. However i do recall that the hidden effect is "aspd minimum" so ull atk as fast as a samurai with a sword. If its set at minimum no amount of aspd+% will change it...another reason i quickly junked that claw is coz my Rush wont work with it...so even atk intervals cuts will not increase ur aspd if its set at "aspd minimum" *i could be wrong rush not working(someone pls test this)...been awhile since i got those claws and i only tested for 2min b4 i junked it xD* |
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Post by Umaru-chan on Jul 31, 2015 1:35:56 GMT
- Stake knuckle ☆Quick cool 5 (-0'5) - Exelis reup ☆Quick cool 5 (-2) - Barbarotita up ☆Quick cool 5 (-1'5) - Next Al xtal (-1) - Overcapped INT (390 INT = -3'2) So this build wont be effective till ur monk is lv cap with INT lv cap and nex Al and barbarotita up get released. The only use I see for this claw atm is if Rush may affect it and u can get aspd near max aspd, but dont really know it. Edit: Stake nuckle stat is aspd become minumum or aspd -100%? Bcuz the add gear dropped by miedo colong may counter it. I had stake knuckles only for a short time. However i do recall that the hidden effect is "aspd minimum" so ull atk as fast as a samurai with a sword. If its set at minimum no amount of aspd+% will change it...another reason i quickly junked that claw is coz my Rush wont work with it...so even atk intervals cuts will not increase ur aspd if its set at "aspd minimum" *i could be wrong rush not working(someone pls test this)...been awhile since i got those claws and i only tested for 2min b4 i junked it xD* Rush will work but as you said aspd interval cut is useless with aspd at its minimum haha but gladiator Berserk is an exception  |
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Post by UIRepth on Aug 7, 2015 16:03:35 GMT
I had stake knuckles only for a short time. However i do recall that the hidden effect is "aspd minimum" so ull atk as fast as a samurai with a sword. If its set at minimum no amount of aspd+% will change it...another reason i quickly junked that claw is coz my Rush wont work with it...so even atk intervals cuts will not increase ur aspd if its set at "aspd minimum" *i could be wrong rush not working(someone pls test this)...been awhile since i got those claws and i only tested for 2min b4 i junked it xD* Rush will work but as you said aspd interval cut is useless with aspd at its minimum haha but gladiator Berserk is an exception Atk spd fix at 80 when using berserk... Slowwwww |
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mokie
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Post by mokie on Aug 7, 2015 20:10:54 GMT
Only diel style from beast knight can make this claw hit faster. Anyway, it is not fast enough. This weapon is almost impossible for autoattack players.
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