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Post by simprince on Jun 16, 2015 19:59:26 GMT
Is it possible to build an auto enchanter with no AGI? INT/VIT/DEX and use dual blow. This build cannot evade at all but has a lot of HP
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Kozuki
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Post by Kozuki on Jun 16, 2015 20:11:48 GMT
Is it possible to build an auto enchanter with no AGI? INT/VIT/DEX and use dual blow. This build cannot evade at all but has a lot of HP If your building a dual blow type then you will probably be spamming it so it leans towards being more as a skill spammer build rather than auto Atk.
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Ex-Ryuka
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Post by Ex-Ryuka on Jun 17, 2015 4:28:20 GMT
I have a questions too regarding to this matter. Does high agi make you can evade boss atk? I never seen enchanter who can evade boss atk yet (I'm referring to high level bosses, mostly episode 3 bosses) and I think enchanter doesn't need high eva. So, i conclude that no high eva means no need max agi.
If agi just only for aspd, especially for magic sword users, then i think low agi is better since the purple line in apostolia will give you more aspd+.
[Purple] Red blue → purple auto skills · ASPD · crit UP 1 line auto skill +?%, ASPD + 30%, critical rate +30? 2 line auto skill +?%, ASPD + 20%, critical rate +20? 3-line auto skill +?%, ASPD + 20%, critical rate +20? 4 line auto skill +?%, ASPD + 10%, critical rate +10? 5 line auto skill +?%, ASPD + 10%, critical rate +10? 6 line auto skill +?%, ASPD + 10%, critical rate +10?
If that aspd works like this, 30%+20%+20%+10%+10%+10% = 100%, then you will have +100% aspd by having 6 purple line on your apostolia.
So, with little status point in agi, you can distribute more point to int for higher damage or to vit for better survival or maybe to dex for better hit rate. I don't said that you don't need agi at all bcs if you don't put any agi in your stats, your aspd just only around 106 (i don't know the exact number, this is just from my acc stats with no agi) without any buff from apostolia or equipment. Then with buff from purple line in apostolia, your agi will probably become 212 and that still not enough.
Then, my other question is what is the best amount of agi for auto-enchanter?
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Kozuki
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Post by Kozuki on Jun 17, 2015 4:35:15 GMT
I have a questions too regarding to this matter. Does high agi make you can evade boss atk? I never seen enchanter who can evade boss atk yet and I think enchanter doesn't need high eva. So, i conclude that no high eva means no need max agi. If agi just only for aspd, especially for magic sword users, then i think low agi is better since the purple line in apostolia will give you more aspd+. [Purple] Red blue → purple auto skills · ASPD · crit UP 1 line auto skill +?%, ASPD + 30%, critical rate +30? 2 line auto skill +?%, ASPD + 20%, critical rate +20? 3-line auto skill +?%, ASPD + 20%, critical rate +20? 4 line auto skill +?%, ASPD + 10%, critical rate +10? 5 line auto skill +?%, ASPD + 10%, critical rate +10? 6 line auto skill +?%, ASPD + 10%, critical rate +10? If that aspd works like this, 30%+20%+20%+10%+10%+10% = 100%, then you will have +100% aspd by having 6 purple line on your apostolia. So, with little status point in agi, you can distribute more point to int for higher damage or to vit for better survival or maybe to dex for better hit rate. I don't said that you don't need agi at all bcs if you don't put any agi in your stats, your aspd just only around 106 (i don't know that exact number, this is just from my acc stats with no agi) without any buff from apostolia or equipment. Then with buff from purple line in apostolia, your agi will probably become 212 and that still not enough. Then, my other question is what is the best amount of agi for auto-enchanter? for your question about high Agi, Enchanter can reach 1k+ with Sinbad III/IV don't remember which one jp has but I've read a blog of an Enchanter that has 1k eva. Also Agi being maxed is mostly reserved to those who wish to use pramia(added Atk from Agi cuz its a claw), or if you plan on using Sinbad. There are still some who use Agi with m.swords to evade. Enchanter always evades some of the atks with max Agi just the same as a ninja would with max Agi it mostly depends on the gears you are using.
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Aroxis
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I get broads in atlanta tho :v
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Post by Aroxis on Jun 26, 2015 22:28:38 GMT
I have a questions too regarding to this matter. Does high agi make you can evade boss atk? I never seen enchanter who can evade boss atk yet (I'm referring to high level bosses, mostly episode 3 bosses) and I think enchanter doesn't need high eva. So, i conclude that no high eva means no need max agi. If agi just only for aspd, especially for magic sword users, then i think low agi is better since the purple line in apostolia will give you more aspd+. [Purple] Red blue → purple auto skills · ASPD · crit UP 1 line auto skill +?%, ASPD + 30%, critical rate +30? 2 line auto skill +?%, ASPD + 20%, critical rate +20? 3-line auto skill +?%, ASPD + 20%, critical rate +20? 4 line auto skill +?%, ASPD + 10%, critical rate +10? 5 line auto skill +?%, ASPD + 10%, critical rate +10? 6 line auto skill +?%, ASPD + 10%, critical rate +10? If that aspd works like this, 30%+20%+20%+10%+10%+10% = 100%, then you will have +100% aspd by having 6 purple line on your apostolia. So, with little status point in agi, you can distribute more point to int for higher damage or to vit for better survival or maybe to dex for better hit rate. I don't said that you don't need agi at all bcs if you don't put any agi in your stats, your aspd just only around 106 (i don't know the exact number, this is just from my acc stats with no agi) without any buff from apostolia or equipment. Then with buff from purple line in apostolia, your agi will probably become 212 and that still not enough.
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Aroxis
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I get broads in atlanta tho :v
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Post by Aroxis on Jun 26, 2015 22:30:23 GMT
Just need 200 ish eva and aulis gale.
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Post by jaffet03 on Jul 15, 2015 6:34:43 GMT
ye ur right u dont have to put 135-140 agi for max aspd on swords the truth is u need 343 aspd on status screen for max aspd on sword and claw so 6 puple line on apos can give u aspd also i share u my stats my stats is int 261 dex 236 vit 239 agi 91 i only have 91,agi but i reac max aspd for sword and claw tr spare 40+ stat t put on agi is i distribute it on vit so i have decent def. and hp to solo bosses . i can switched mblade or counter enchante if i want i have m .blade set too but counter i am.still working for it when me and my brother glad play i use m.blade tank set so we can farm.boses easy but if im dps im return to auto set pretty convenient
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Post by jaffet03 on Jul 15, 2015 6:40:34 GMT
enchanter must not focus only.on dmg u need hp too to solo most bosses most ench who only think about dmg are only good on grinding (baums,mega ) mobs but mlnot on bosses . and i prefer boss kil rather to kill bunc of weak mobs and they are good on party if have bish but it is depending on ur playstyle too becoz my playstyle are soloist so i need ( hp,rate cut,matk,sd,autoskill,tank set,etc) to kil bosses solo i jed many ground nit just dmg only
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Post by kingnuit on Jul 16, 2015 7:27:20 GMT
enchanter must not focus only.on dmg u need hp too to solo most bosses most ench who only think about dmg are only good on grinding (baums,mega ) mobs but mlnot on bosses . and i prefer boss kil rather to kill bunc of weak mobs and they are good on party if have bish but it is depending on ur playstyle too becoz my playstyle are soloist so i need ( hp,rate cut,matk,sd,autoskill,tank set,etc) to kil bosses solo i jed many ground nit just dmg only i dont understand.... its like zigzag #barok
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Kozuki
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Post by Kozuki on Jul 16, 2015 11:39:43 GMT
enchanter must not focus only.on dmg u need hp too to solo most bosses most ench who only think about dmg are only good on grinding (baums,mega ) mobs but mlnot on bosses . and i prefer boss kil rather to kill bunc of weak mobs and they are good on party if have bish but it is depending on ur playstyle too becoz my playstyle are soloist so i need ( hp,rate cut,matk,sd,autoskill,tank set,etc) to kil bosses solo i jed many ground nit just dmg only i dont understand.... its like zigzag #barok basically its good to deal high dmg but there's no point if you can't solo bosses with it.
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Post by jaffet03 on Jul 16, 2015 13:07:39 GMT
sory if my english is not thT accurate cause im not a english man our country english just secondar language sorcfor its like a zigzag but i do hop u undrstand a little .. ye sir kozuki its no point if u hav so man dmg but only they csn kill baums mega not bosses cause mobs has nothung t do with it we ca measure our strength and excitement playing by kilin bosses
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