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Post by mokie on May 30, 2015 16:29:57 GMT
Updated: -Adding mab Build -Remove STR>CRT>VIT, might be adjust later due to some mistakes -Adding claw Build
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Post by Derp Knight on May 30, 2015 16:33:52 GMT
I would just like to point out that you put special sword build in to spam, but.. From my experience (Lv 186 B.Knight), Diel Style interrupts spam too easily once vit is 256+ (and that's just lv 2 diel style that I use, which is forcefully given at 140).
I wouldn't put special sword for Tyrant Spam build.
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Post by mokie on May 30, 2015 16:37:45 GMT
I would just like to point out that you put special sword build in to spam, but.. From my experience (Lv 186 B.Knight), Diel Style interrupts spam too easily once vit is 256+ (and that's just lv 2 diel style that I use, which is forcefully given at 140). I wouldn't put special sword for Tyrant Spam build. I put it in spam build because lagging of crt cannot deal high normal damage as well. Like you said, you can do auto attack, but it's not gonna be 10k per hit like the other classes can do.
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Post by Derp Knight on May 30, 2015 16:41:38 GMT
I would just like to point out that you put special sword build in to spam, but.. From my experience (Lv 186 B.Knight), Diel Style interrupts spam too easily once vit is 256+ (and that's just lv 2 diel style that I use, which is forcefully given at 140). I wouldn't put special sword for Tyrant Spam build. I put it in spam build because lagging of crt cannot deal high normal damage as well. Actually, like you said, you can do auto attack, but it's not gonna be 10k per hit like the other class can do. Yeah, but even though it can "spam" Tyrant at max delay, Diel Style is still a problem. Auto attack sucks as well, like you said. This build would be for howl spam to hold hate, while offering minimal DPS to the party, in my honest opinion. I used this build and lost hate too easily because of break in spam due to the passive skill.
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Post by mokie on May 30, 2015 17:04:52 GMT
I put it in spam build because lagging of crt cannot deal high normal damage as well. Actually, like you said, you can do auto attack, but it's not gonna be 10k per hit like the other class can do. Yeah, but even though it can "spam" Tyrant at max delay, Diel Style is still a problem. Auto attack sucks as well, like you said. This build would be for howl spam to hold hate, while offering minimal DPS to the party, in my honest opinion. I used this build and lost hate too easily because of break in spam due to the passive skill. I see your point that after you use a skill, monster will hit your character and yours will hit back with normal hit. That will stop your fun time spamming skill. I have this problem too. Anyway, this problem that you're pointing out cannot reject that VIT>DEX>STR build is a spammer. I think you will spam skill quite often anyway with this build. It cannot be avoided.
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Post by Derp Knight on May 30, 2015 17:26:44 GMT
Yeah, but even though it can "spam" Tyrant at max delay, Diel Style is still a problem. Auto attack sucks as well, like you said. This build would be for howl spam to hold hate, while offering minimal DPS to the party, in my honest opinion. I used this build and lost hate too easily because of break in spam due to the passive skill. I see your point that after you use a skill, monster will hit your character and yours will hit back with normal hit. That will stop your fun time spamming skill. I have this problem too. Anyway, this problem that you're pointing out cannot reject that VIT>DEX>STR build is a spammer. I think you will spam skill quite often anyway with this build. It cannot be avoided. it may be able to "spam" but in common understanding, when wanting a "spammer," you want someone who will spam endlessly without break. Break in spam = break in hate. But howl holds good hate and the spam doesn't get interrupted by Diel, thankfully. So that's always an option to spam for farms/leveling with this build.
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Post by mokie on May 31, 2015 19:21:45 GMT
Updated: -rewriting STR>CRT>VIT build
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Post by mokie on Jun 2, 2015 20:37:57 GMT
Editted: Changing vit and aspd ratios, the correct ratio is 0.4 not 0.5.
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Post by mokie on Jun 3, 2015 3:39:00 GMT
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Post by wickedone on Sept 1, 2015 20:22:49 GMT
I made a bk i didnt research i need opinions i have esmeralda 2 himmel t.garb 3 himmel ghost ring himmel volk shoes i placed stats 100 agi 80 crit but stopped raising cause i wasnt sure if doing right is there any suggestions i may have here
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Post by mokie on Sept 1, 2015 20:50:27 GMT
I made a bk i didnt research i need opinions i have esmeralda 2 himmel t.garb 3 himmel ghost ring himmel volk shoes i placed stats 100 agi 80 crit but stopped raising cause i wasnt sure if doing right is there any suggestions i may have here You can still play claw build. This build is not so popular, but it is like a monk with slightly higher damage. The status should be AGI>CRT>STR. In the worst case, if you don't like it, you have opportunity to become a ninja. Adding: For equipment, I really recommend Huge Cherry Blossom Upg for additional gear. You can gain hp by hit. If you can get Treatment s for weapon, that will be nice too. However, Treatment is very expensive, so any claw should be fine. Ira is the best for armor. You need +%autoskill to bite often and make the other autoskill proc up. Importantly, always max your crt.
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Post by wickedone on Sept 1, 2015 21:12:58 GMT
I made a bk i didnt research i need opinions i have esmeralda 2 himmel t.garb 3 himmel ghost ring himmel volk shoes i placed stats 100 agi 80 crit but stopped raising cause i wasnt sure if doing right is there any suggestions i may have here You can still play claw build. This build is not so popular, but it is like a monk with slightly higher damage. The status should be AGI>CRT>STR. In the worst case, if you don't like it, you have opportunity to become a ninja. Adding: For equipment, I really recommend Huge Cherry Blossom Upg for additional gear. You can gain hp by hit. If you can get Treatment s for weapon, that will be nice too. However, Treatment is very expensive, so any claw should be fine. Ira is the best for armor. You need +%autoskill to bite often and make the other autoskill proc up. Importantly, always max your crt. i think if i dont like ill restat but ill wait til 200+ to have more stats for better judgement i cant change to ninja cause i have a 2 ganei ninja it also has wol vida and mogonza so im set with ninja but i like your suggestion but think ill do 120 agi cap crit and then start adding vit and look into gear you suggested ty
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Post by wickedone on Sept 1, 2015 21:16:18 GMT
You can still play claw build. This build is not so popular, but it is like a monk with slightly higher damage. The status should be AGI>CRT>STR. In the worst case, if you don't like it, you have opportunity to become a ninja. Adding: For equipment, I really recommend Huge Cherry Blossom Upg for additional gear. You can gain hp by hit. If you can get Treatment s for weapon, that will be nice too. However, Treatment is very expensive, so any claw should be fine. Ira is the best for armor. You need +%autoskill to bite often and make the other autoskill proc up. Importantly, always max your crt. i think if i dont like ill restat but ill wait til 200+ to have more stats for better judgement i cant change to ninja cause i have a 2 ganei ninja it also has wol vida and mogonza so im set with ninja but i like your suggestion but think ill do 120 agi cap crit and then start adding vit and look into gear you suggested ty did you mean testament s
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Post by mokie on Sept 1, 2015 21:32:46 GMT
i think if i dont like ill restat but ill wait til 200+ to have more stats for better judgement i cant change to ninja cause i have a 2 ganei ninja it also has wol vida and mogonza so im set with ninja but i like your suggestion but think ill do 120 agi cap crit and then start adding vit and look into gear you suggested ty did you mean testament s Yes, my bad. When I think about this claw, I will think it treats my hp. That makes me always use a word treatment. LOL
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Post by mdb2011 on Sept 25, 2015 20:35:24 GMT
Hey guys im doing int vit dex or crit havent decided third stat yet but anyways i like to be unique so please refrain from saying ir gonna suck with that build ect long as im happy im good but anyway im going bk gone use magic sword have dim4/6 atm armours are ultimi ira n emido add is spin shield soec myrcia ns of course well i plan on being solo tanky type but i also decided to put sofy xstals in my gear for that extra damage hehe so kinda counter bk if you would inhave 2 sofy one in spin shield next prib gone be my armour this where you guys come in which armour you think would benefit me the most i kinda eliminated emido cuz i put it n ira in and attacked and ira gave more damagae but if i go int vit crit will spellburst be helpful to me? Im clueless in wth spellburst does heard something about crit and well if i go int vit dex should i use ultimi? Also any helpful ideas on build would be sppreciated i have no idea about apostolia so talk about lines colors ect will confuse me lets keep it to a armour n stats basis lol
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