asteg
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Post by asteg on Nov 4, 2015 21:32:47 GMT
Bottom line is, if your not tanking, the ability to clome doesn't effect u unless u spam doc, and if u spam doc u use 3 clones anyway, and if you die because of war cry, its not buffed...
If your not the one tanking it makes 0 sence to say no warcry...you get +12% atk and argo isint your problem so u can use atk gears instead of hate gears.
Gladi on the other hand... You can either slow the pt down by no warcry, or speed it up using it, wc lvl 4 is out, i'll accept +20% free atk over hearing "x.x cant clone.."
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bravebor
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to slack to give a damn, yet to bored to not say anything...
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Post by bravebor on Nov 5, 2015 0:14:01 GMT
And in the end, like I said, when the ninja has no buffs to use that'll be beneficial to other pt members, and as its the only class that suffers from warcry unless it's a pt of nin and 1 glad...*shrugs* deal with it.
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♎Fenrir
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Due to my devices, I will vacuum for a while or maybe forever.
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Post by ♎Fenrir on Nov 5, 2015 0:19:45 GMT
Mostly agree with RANTAU, asteg, and bravebor. But smile not entirely wrong too. I think we play in party so we can kill boss faster. And EVERY CLASS NEED TO OBSERVE AND ADAPT in order to achieve that goal. If a person keep wanting to showing off their damage/skill while not seeing overall party damage, then better leave pt. I think it wont hurt to experimenting 1-2 round of boss so all pt member know which is faster, buff casted or not. About 9clone build is corrupted, I dont think so. Everyone have a freedom to choose their build. What corrupted is people who refuse to adapt. Having hard time to clone? Try atleta ring. Need time to make HP to 1, but we ninja wont get attacked much if we in pt so it will be fine. EXCEPT that ninja with SH, it seems they always hold aggro and lost clone so fast XP Edit: Oh, and there's exist a situation where pt consist of gladi and other classes with damage much lower than ninja. Maybe because huge level gap, maybe because the difference of equipment quality. In this case, please hold ur warcry for party sake
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asteg
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Post by asteg on Nov 5, 2015 0:20:48 GMT
Whats annoying is that i have to carry a stack of all vaccs with me now...
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eiric
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315 Enchanter and still going strong!
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Post by eiric on Nov 5, 2015 2:28:59 GMT
Whats annoying is that i have to carry a stack of all vaccs with me now... I usually don't. The ninja should know if he needs vacs and how many... Hell, I should not be made responsible for another class's gear e.e
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eiric
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Post by eiric on Nov 5, 2015 2:42:55 GMT
And in the end, like I said, when the ninja has no buffs to use that'll be beneficial to other pt members, and as its the only class that suffers from warcry unless it's a pt of nin and 1 glad...*shrugs* deal with it. I get complaints if I use origin cuz some ppl have no idea... had a ninja say don't buff him.. right as I hit him with autoskill and enchant weapon. He got pissed cuz he said he didn't need it. Oh well I'm not waiting 6 min for u to lose buff let's go buddy! Idiot ninja it helps u even a little bit.
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Post by lacs on Nov 5, 2015 2:46:54 GMT
i wanna give a advise to to all 1hp build ninja out there. im tired of some ninjas who block gladiators and paladins from casting warcry in the party because they claim it will make them unable to make 9 clones. are you guys gonna forbid gladiators and paladins from casting warcry forever? asobimo not even design ninja to be rely on 9 clone forever, why should we gladiators and paladins sacrifice our ability for sake of corrupted 1hp ninja build? soon gladiator will get warcry lv4, boost higher hp+20%, im sure i will getting hate from 9 clones build ninjas. here the advise, get some stacks of mysterious jelly, it makes your current HP become 1 instantly, so you can make 9 clone again. its most common loot rom igniz at Fort Slebinius (Azimov map). bring them everyime you do MQ!. yeah... Ninjas can't use this to clone, that item has a chance to cause stun when used, I know, I have used them, didn't ninjas lose all their clones when stunned?
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eiric
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Post by eiric on Nov 5, 2015 2:52:08 GMT
i wanna give a advise to to all 1hp build ninja out there. im tired of some ninjas who block gladiators and paladins from casting warcry in the party because they claim it will make them unable to make 9 clones. are you guys gonna forbid gladiators and paladins from casting warcry forever? asobimo not even design ninja to be rely on 9 clone forever, why should we gladiators and paladins sacrifice our ability for sake of corrupted 1hp ninja build? soon gladiator will get warcry lv4, boost higher hp+20%, im sure i will getting hate from 9 clones build ninjas. here the advise, get some stacks of mysterious jelly, it makes your current HP become 1 instantly, so you can make 9 clone again. its most common loot rom igniz at Fort Slebinius (Azimov map). bring them everyime you do MQ!. yeah... Ninjas can't use this to clone, that item has a chance to cause stun when used, I know, I have used them, didn't ninjas lose all their clones when stunned? yeah when stunned ninja loses all clones... sucks but it's still alright if u want to take a chance besides bunshin gives 3 right away so u can survive as long u have pt
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bravebor
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to slack to give a damn, yet to bored to not say anything...
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Post by bravebor on Nov 5, 2015 3:52:38 GMT
Whats annoying is that i have to carry a stack of all vaccs with me now... I usually don't. The ninja should know if he needs vacs and how many... Hell, I should not be made responsible for another class's gear e.e I think asteg was referring to pals new skill, there's like a "ka-ma-ha-ma-ha style build up" before the atk is released and if your char is afflicted with any ailments in that time, if they are not cured by the time the skill is used it causes stun and I think I saw some1 say HP loss also(?) i wanna give a advise to to all 1hp build ninja out there. im tired of some ninjas who block gladiators and paladins from casting warcry in the party because they claim it will make them unable to make 9 clones. are you guys gonna forbid gladiators and paladins from casting warcry forever? asobimo not even design ninja to be rely on 9 clone forever, why should we gladiators and paladins sacrifice our ability for sake of corrupted 1hp ninja build? soon gladiator will get warcry lv4, boost higher hp+20%, im sure i will getting hate from 9 clones build ninjas. here the advise, get some stacks of mysterious jelly, it makes your current HP become 1 instantly, so you can make 9 clone again. its most common loot rom igniz at Fort Slebinius (Azimov map). bring them everyime you do MQ!. yeah... Ninjas can't use this to clone, that item has a chance to cause stun when used, I know, I have used them, didn't ninjas lose all their clones when stunned? There's always poisoness mushroom from mucus (who doesn't like dodgy lookin shrooms to munch on ) does the same thing but it's uncommon drop, easy enough for if they have aoe class char to farm with tho... Edit: oh wait...I think those give HP some of the time...*shrugs* prob safer bet than risking stun lol
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Post by •Ene• on Nov 5, 2015 4:23:17 GMT
And in the end, like I said, when the ninja has no buffs to use that'll be beneficial to other pt members, and as its the only class that suffers from warcry unless it's a pt of nin and 1 glad...*shrugs* deal with it. I get complaints if I use origin cuz some ppl have no idea... had a ninja say don't buff him.. right as I hit him with autoskill and enchant weapon. He got pissed cuz he said he didn't need it. Oh well I'm not waiting 6 min for u to lose buff let's go buddy! Idiot ninja it helps u even a little bit. really? i thought ninjas dont mind origin at all ._. guess some of them dont know the effect lol. i was always told to use my origin when i didnt xD
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asteg
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Post by asteg on Nov 5, 2015 4:45:32 GMT
I dont hate ninjas, i just hate the ones that p**s all over people when we try to buff them, like when my mq was shojo(many moons ago...) I used gaurd on a ninja and he left saying buffs made him look newb.. O.o well forgive me...didint know you could get any less dmg then 0... Which led me to believe for about a month that gaurd messed up clones x.x
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eiric
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Post by eiric on Nov 5, 2015 5:05:25 GMT
I dont hate ninjas, i just hate the ones that p**s all over people when we try to buff them, like when my mq was shojo(many moons ago...) I used gaurd on a ninja and he left saying buffs made him look newb.. O.o well forgive me...didint know you could get any less dmg then 0... Which led me to believe for about a month that gaurd messed up clones x.x as far as I know they don't and I'm willing to be a guinea pig with my ninja. So far it's healing for me cuz I don't have 2 ganei, but stoneskin and other buffs are welcome. (Btw I'm a 9 clone ninja and I don't use ganei and I'm 110 xD)
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eiric
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Post by eiric on Nov 5, 2015 5:05:59 GMT
I get complaints if I use origin cuz some ppl have no idea... had a ninja say don't buff him.. right as I hit him with autoskill and enchant weapon. He got pissed cuz he said he didn't need it. Oh well I'm not waiting 6 min for u to lose buff let's go buddy! Idiot ninja it helps u even a little bit. really? i thought ninjas dont mind origin at all ._. guess some of them dont know the effect lol. i was always told to use my origin when i didnt xD probably didn't realize that I used origin as defense sometimes as offense. geez...
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Post by •Ene• on Nov 5, 2015 5:31:44 GMT
I dont hate ninjas, i just hate the ones that p**s all over people when we try to buff them, like when my mq was shojo(many moons ago...) I used gaurd on a ninja and he left saying buffs made him look newb.. O.o well forgive me...didint know you could get any less dmg then 0... Which led me to believe for about a month that gaurd messed up clones x.x this kind of ninjas r always my entertainer :v (evilll) buffed them just to see their reaction xD
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asteg
Dank Meme Lord
yar yar...wind at ye backs me fellows.
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Post by asteg on Nov 5, 2015 5:49:45 GMT
Yeah, if u dont wanan be buffed ask for it o.o then we wont becsuse F*** YOU! HUEHEHEHEHEH
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