bravebor
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to slack to give a damn, yet to bored to not say anything...
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Post by bravebor on Nov 4, 2015 11:34:53 GMT
It's a range effect and I did consider saying a knight class could always simply copy "I'm using warcry" to click and paste in pt chat before using, but if ppl want quick kills that click and paste could add up to a couple of skill uses which for pal would be how many 100k of dmg to the boss. So yea lol bottom line stands, they can just suck it up and deal with it. yes but its not like you need to rebuff everytime you enter the field, minus some bosses that remove buff. Dude, idk about glads, but pally have a ridiculous number of buffs to work through. there's no stopping to re do them all each time, you just simply re-buff as needed when it runs out regardless if your in the field or not when your farming.
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Post by Shori>.< on Nov 4, 2015 12:34:36 GMT
yes but its not like you need to rebuff everytime you enter the field, minus some bosses that remove buff. Dude, idk about glads, but pally have a ridiculous number of buffs to work through. there's no stopping to re do them all each time, you just simply re-buff as needed when it runs out regardless if your in the field or not when your farming. Ah, I was under the impression that pally and tank ninja don't appear in the same pt, and even if they did won't the pally be the one who tank? Oh well, i guess my thinking is more like if there's a room to compromise (O.O big word for me, i hope i got the meaning right...) the team should just decide on a win win situation.
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Post by Umaru-chan on Nov 4, 2015 12:40:36 GMT
How lag consumes 3-5secs of my spellboost before i can hit q.q
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Post by •Ene• on Nov 4, 2015 14:32:28 GMT
when i told some ninjas that im using pt buffs that would affect them and was hoping that they would stay away so i can buff me and other pt mates. *waited for few seconds*...not moving?? okay. *cast*
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☆Rinリン
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A Blunt pencil is pointless
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Post by ☆Rinリン on Nov 4, 2015 15:06:56 GMT
when ppl shout MP! right after boss boom (1hp 0mp) i need hp and mp to recharge u see x.x
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Smile
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Cerulya - 230 Ninja
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Post by Smile on Nov 4, 2015 15:22:36 GMT
Just don't see how a Ninja using max clones is a "corrupted" build, lol. It's how they manage to stay alive.
It's like saying a Bishop using Heal to keep themselves alive is also "corrupted"
What other way would you expect a Ninja to survive? Want them to run on the 3 from Bunshin? Either way, you're gonna cry about it. Ninja has the ability to clone to 9 for a reason, this reason being to stay alive.
Pally has naturally high hp/def, thus making that their way to stay alive. Bishop has Heal. HWiz has Drain, Ench has Stone Skin, Gladdy has Cross Counter. Going by your logic, if you use those skills to stay alive - it's "corrupted"
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Post by raven on Nov 4, 2015 15:34:24 GMT
Just don't see how a Ninja using max clones is a "corrupted" build, lol. It's how they manage to stay alive. It's like saying a Bishop using Heal to keep themselves alive is also "corrupted" What other way would you expect a Ninja to survive? Want them to run on the 3 from Bunshin? Either way, you're gonna cry about it. Ninja has the ability to clone to 9 for a reason, this reason being to stay alive. Pally has naturally high hp/def, thus making that their way to stay alive. Bishop has Heal. HWiz has Drain, Ench has Stone Skin, Gladdy has Cross Counter. Going by your logic, if you use those skills to stay alive - it's "corrupted" But pallies , gladiators and bish were meant to use those skills. But ninjas on the other were probably meant to use their m.atks mostly using a throwing weapon. That's why they have throw mastery? You get 3 clones from domination too...so basically what I'm saying is...original ninja build should be INT DEX CRT?
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eiric
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315 Enchanter and still going strong!
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Post by eiric on Nov 4, 2015 16:39:18 GMT
when ppl shout MP! right after boss boom (1hp 0mp) i need hp and mp to recharge u see x.x Don't mind it too much. However, if u can see that I'm abt to die then yeahit's effin annoying. 300 some on hp for 2k+ mp... and I have barely 600hp... ?
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Smile
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Cerulya - 230 Ninja
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Post by Smile on Nov 4, 2015 17:57:33 GMT
Just don't see how a Ninja using max clones is a "corrupted" build, lol. It's how they manage to stay alive. It's like saying a Bishop using Heal to keep themselves alive is also "corrupted" What other way would you expect a Ninja to survive? Want them to run on the 3 from Bunshin? Either way, you're gonna cry about it. Ninja has the ability to clone to 9 for a reason, this reason being to stay alive. Pally has naturally high hp/def, thus making that their way to stay alive. Bishop has Heal. HWiz has Drain, Ench has Stone Skin, Gladdy has Cross Counter. Going by your logic, if you use those skills to stay alive - it's "corrupted" But pallies , gladiators and bish were meant to use those skills. But ninjas on the other were probably meant to use their m.atks mostly using a throwing weapon. That's why they have throw mastery? You get 3 clones from domination too...so basically what I'm saying is...original ninja build should be INT DEX CRT? Either way, it's not "corrupted".
Monks get Claw mastery, how many Geo Monks do you see? It's an acceptable build. Pally is a tank job, so the "original build" should be VIT/INT? But how many VIT/DEX/STR Pally's do you see? It's another acceptable build. Typical Samurai builds would be STR/DEX/AGI. But how many VIT/DEX Sam's do you see? Again, another acceptable build - or Magic Sword build. They also get Katana{?} Mastery, but they use Swords/Spec Swords/Magic Swords. Assassin's get Throw Mastery, but there's many Nail build 'Sins - mainly because their Evasion skills allow them to surpass a typical Ninja's eva. Does this make it a corrupted build because they use the Evasion skills they get at the biggest possible advantage? - Similar to the use of Desperate Move for Ninja's to max clone.
Besides, going by the "3 clone per Domination" line - That skill isn't until 200, so how do you expect a Ninja to get to 200 by using just 3 clones with those stats?
My main point is; no build is "corrupted", there is no "original build" - there are viable builds, there are builds that will not work. But using skills to their biggest advantage is not "corruption" in any way, shape or form.
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Post by Crysta|'s hubby on Nov 4, 2015 18:07:54 GMT
But pallies , gladiators and bish were meant to use those skills. But ninjas on the other were probably meant to use their m.atks mostly using a throwing weapon. That's why they have throw mastery? You get 3 clones from domination too...so basically what I'm saying is...original ninja build should be INT DEX CRT? Either way, it's not "corrupted".
Monks get Claw mastery, how many Geo Monks do you see? It's an acceptable build. Pally is a tank job, so the "original build" should be VIT/INT? But how many VIT/DEX/STR Pally's do you see? It's another acceptable build. Typical Samurai builds would be STR/DEX/AGI. But how many VIT/DEX Sam's do you see? Again, another acceptable build - or Magic Sword build. They also get Katana{?} Mastery, but they use Swords/Spec Swords/Magic Swords. Assassin's get Throw Mastery, but there's many Nail build 'Sins - mainly because their Evasion skills allow them to surpass a typical Ninja's eva. Does this make it a corrupted build because they use the Evasion skills they get at the biggest possible advantage? - Similar to the use of Desperate Move for Ninja's to max clone.
Besides, going by the "3 clone per Domination" line - That skill isn't until 200, so how do you expect a Ninja to get to 200 by using just 3 clones with those stats?
My main point is; no build is "corrupted", there is no "original build" - there are viable builds, there are builds that will not work. But using skills to their biggest advantage is not "corruption" in any way, shape or form.
Just pointing this out but "katana"litterally means sword so any sword whether it be str/dex sword spec sword or magic sword is acceptable ur not wrong about the others but that one u r wrong about
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Smile
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Cerulya - 230 Ninja
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Post by Smile on Nov 4, 2015 18:10:19 GMT
Either way, it's not "corrupted".
Monks get Claw mastery, how many Geo Monks do you see? It's an acceptable build. Pally is a tank job, so the "original build" should be VIT/INT? But how many VIT/DEX/STR Pally's do you see? It's another acceptable build. Typical Samurai builds would be STR/DEX/AGI. But how many VIT/DEX Sam's do you see? Again, another acceptable build - or Magic Sword build. They also get Katana{?} Mastery, but they use Swords/Spec Swords/Magic Swords. Assassin's get Throw Mastery, but there's many Nail build 'Sins - mainly because their Evasion skills allow them to surpass a typical Ninja's eva. Does this make it a corrupted build because they use the Evasion skills they get at the biggest possible advantage? - Similar to the use of Desperate Move for Ninja's to max clone.
Besides, going by the "3 clone per Domination" line - That skill isn't until 200, so how do you expect a Ninja to get to 200 by using just 3 clones with those stats?
My main point is; no build is "corrupted", there is no "original build" - there are viable builds, there are builds that will not work. But using skills to their biggest advantage is not "corruption" in any way, shape or form.
Just pointing this out but "katana"litterally means sword so any sword whether it be str/dex sword spec sword or magic sword is acceptable ur not wrong about the others but that one u r wrong about Well, I do apologise for never playing Samurai. It was a guess - I assumed it was exclusively for Katana since you can craft one.
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Post by blacksheep on Nov 4, 2015 18:36:49 GMT
Ya plenty of nail sins... 99% reroll to throwns at 160lvl or go ninja...
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Smile
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Cerulya - 230 Ninja
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Post by Smile on Nov 4, 2015 18:43:50 GMT
Ya plenty of nail sins... 99% reroll to throwns at 160lvl or go ninja... I've seen more Nail Assassins than BS Assassins.
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More Nail 'Sins within the 240-300 range than BS 'Sins 240-300
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Post by blacksheep on Nov 4, 2015 19:31:28 GMT
Best joke ever.
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Smile
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Cerulya - 230 Ninja
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Post by Smile on Nov 4, 2015 19:43:42 GMT
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