eiric
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Post by eiric on Apr 22, 2016 19:24:22 GMT
iruna have problem, the problem of delusion/overestimate of 9 clone build ninja, very big delusion. i simply dont understand how come people think 9 build ninja is good if their life very vulnerable to some ailment like stun. sure you can say ninja have no problem mob have no ailment like megaroche, but limiting yourself to non-ailment-afflicting mob only sounds like big false pride to me. or maybe i should say most lowbie ninja not professional to manage themselves? 9 clone build ninja is hard to manage,have many flaws particularly about their relationship between current hp% and ability to make 9 clones.the equipment needed to fully reduce hp% are expensive. even if you can fully reduce hp%, 9 clone build ninja could die easily from stun. i think 9 clone build ninja is suitable only for an alt who rich enough able to afford equipment needed to fully reduce hp%..dont play as ninja if you are total newbie who cant afford proper equipment, or if dont know which skill from other jobs might inflate your hp%. i think iruna community need to promote magic ninja build. im tired of incompetent/unprofessional 9 clone build ninja Even if people use the magic ninja build, commonly 3 clones, they are still vulnerable to aliment and like in anniversary raid lv200: those attacks/map effects which ignore clones. The real delusion is that ninja is a solo class, sure you can solo the mq(with pet #nottruesolo) but when it comes to farming high Lvl boss/raids ninja need a bishop just as much as a paladin. yeah they do need bishops quite often (not as much as paladin but close). more often then not I mainly hear cries for mp (stupid sh) and the "don't heal me I'm a ninja and that makes me not clone!! you @#$%&!!" ugh thankfully I won't run out of hp or mp any time soon... |
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asteg
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Post by asteg on Apr 22, 2016 20:52:37 GMT
iruna have problem, the problem of delusion/overestimate of 9 clone build ninja, very big delusion. i simply dont understand how come people think 9 build ninja is good if their life very vulnerable to some ailment like stun. sure you can say ninja have no problem mob have no ailment like megaroche, but limiting yourself to non-ailment-afflicting mob only sounds like big false pride to me. or maybe i should say most lowbie ninja not professional to manage themselves? 9 clone build ninja is hard to manage,have many flaws particularly about their relationship between current hp% and ability to make 9 clones.the equipment needed to fully reduce hp% are expensive. even if you can fully reduce hp%, 9 clone build ninja could die easily from stun. i think 9 clone build ninja is suitable only for an alt who rich enough able to afford equipment needed to fully reduce hp%..dont play as ninja if you are total newbie who cant afford proper equipment, or if dont know which skill from other jobs might inflate your hp%. i think iruna community need to promote magic ninja build. im tired of incompetent/unprofessional 9 clone build ninja Even if people use the magic ninja build, commonly 3 clones, they are still vulnerable to aliment and like in anniversary raid lv200: those attacks/map effects which ignore clones. The real delusion is that ninja is a solo class, sure you can solo the mq(→→→with pet #nottruesolo←←←) but when it comes to farming high Lvl boss/raids ninja need a bishop just as much as a paladin. *triggered* |
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Post by lacs on Apr 22, 2016 21:32:42 GMT
Pets should still count as solo, there are some hits and random effects that causes a 1 hit kill, and without pet, no one should be able to "solo" that specific boss (paladin and niapa) pets should count like any equipment
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Post by Crysta| on Apr 22, 2016 21:38:00 GMT
Definition of solo, according to Google search engine:
noun
a thing done by one person unaccompanied, in particular.
a card game in which one player plays against the others in an attempt to win a specified number of tricks.
adjective & adverb
for or done by one person alone; unaccompanied.
verb
perform something unaccompanied, in particular.
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eiric
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Post by eiric on Apr 22, 2016 23:06:42 GMT
Pets should still count as solo, there are some hits and random effects that causes a 1 hit kill, and without pet, no one should be able to "solo" that specific boss (paladin and niapa) pets should count like any equipment well my pet is useless... gets knocked out before I need healing and only heals 648 hp... x.x |
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eiric
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Post by eiric on Apr 22, 2016 23:09:57 GMT
Definition of solo, according to Google search engine: noun a thing done by one person unaccompanied, in particular. a card game in which one player plays against the others in an attempt to win a specified number of tricks. adjective & adverb for or done by one person alone; unaccompanied. verb perform something unaccompanied, in particular. so if the pet doesn't do anything [Relax] then does it still count as solo if I manage to kill the boss? cuz I gave up on my pet when fighting raton and ended using more of my revitas then relying on that useless sack of @#$%!! that died with every other hit... (Raton: 3 |Eiric: 1) q.q |
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Post by Crysta| on Apr 22, 2016 23:17:59 GMT
Definition of solo, according to Google search engine: noun a thing done by one person unaccompanied, in particular. a card game in which one player plays against the others in an attempt to win a specified number of tricks. adjective & adverb for or done by one person alone; unaccompanied. verb perform something unaccompanied, in particular. so if the pet doesn't do anything [Relax] then does it still count as solo if I manage to kill the boss? cuz I gave up on my pet when fighting raton and ended using more of my revitas then relying on that useless sack of @#$%!! that died with every other hit... (Raton: 3 |Eiric: 1) q.q in that scenario having pet summoned is like having a safety net. You're not going to give it your all if you know there's something there to catch you if you fail. |
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eiric
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Post by eiric on Apr 23, 2016 0:10:42 GMT
so if the pet doesn't do anything [Relax] then does it still count as solo if I manage to kill the boss? cuz I gave up on my pet when fighting raton and ended using more of my revitas then relying on that useless sack of @#$%!! that died with every other hit... (Raton: 3 |Eiric: 1) q.q in that scenario having pet summoned is like having a safety net. You're not going to give it your all if you know there's something there to catch you if you fail. ehh.. well besides the ur all part my pet is somewhat of a safety net cuz there will be times when my stoneskin fails or whatnot and I die.. can't be helped but yeah I do try and give it my all geez... |
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DaddyDickems
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I'm just a simple fugly muffin, please be gentle
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Post by DaddyDickems on Apr 23, 2016 0:48:48 GMT
In my honest opinion my pet is a meat-shield I could care less if it starves, as long as it heals I'm good.
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Post by tsappira on Apr 23, 2016 1:41:40 GMT
It makes me sad when I see a low lv join guild, and two weeks later he goes nin... why? god why? I asked him if he is at least a magic nin... y'all know that answer. Nin is fun and all, but after awhile it gets boring, real boring, especially if a nail nin I have a nubby nail ninja just for exploring i.e. running around lv300+ maps because I like to see the new content :3 'cause without a bunch of gilgobble's books my squishy main burns through stacks of pots and spends more time waiting for pet heals than running people: ew ninja is boring/gah so many lazy noobs ruin the class me: ok sure just let me pose with enina *strikes a draw-me-like-one-of-your-sofya-hoes pose* |
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Dragsbro
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I'm kind of a necromancer, as in playing with SK is just toying with dead stuff at this point
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Post by Dragsbro on Apr 23, 2016 9:15:47 GMT
iruna have problem, the problem of delusion/overestimate of 9 clone build ninja, very big delusion. i simply dont understand how come people think 9 build ninja is good if their life very vulnerable to some ailment like stun. sure you can say ninja have no problem mob have no ailment like megaroche, but limiting yourself to non-ailment-afflicting mob only sounds like big false pride to me. or maybe i should say most lowbie ninja not professional to manage themselves? 9 clone build ninja is hard to manage,have many flaws particularly about their relationship between current hp% and ability to make 9 clones.the equipment needed to fully reduce hp% are expensive. even if you can fully reduce hp%, 9 clone build ninja could die easily from stun. i think 9 clone build ninja is suitable only for an alt who rich enough able to afford equipment needed to fully reduce hp%..dont play as ninja if you are total newbie who cant afford proper equipment, or if dont know which skill from other jobs might inflate your hp%. i think iruna community need to promote magic ninja build. im tired of incompetent/unprofessional 9 clone build ninja Even if people use the magic ninja build, commonly 3 clones, they are still vulnerable to aliment and like in anniversary raid lv200: those attacks/map effects which ignore clones. The real delusion is that ninja is a solo class, sure you can solo the mq(with pet #nottruesolo) but when it comes to farming high Lvl boss/raids ninja need a bishop just as much as a paladin. I think that magic ninjas would even more SH than nail or bow ninjs... last time i was helping a magic ninja to bergen after i just recorded it, then i realized he was sh... i was just like "oh sh*t that was the last class i didn't see sh" and if magic ninja continue to grow as its growing, those who SHed with nail will even more sh then... |
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Post by quitted on Apr 23, 2016 13:24:05 GMT
Even if people use the magic ninja build, commonly 3 clones, they are still vulnerable to aliment and like in anniversary raid lv200: those attacks/map effects which ignore clones. The real delusion is that ninja is a solo class, sure you can solo the mq(with pet #nottruesolo) but when it comes to farming high Lvl boss/raids ninja need a bishop just as much as a paladin. I think that magic ninjas would even more SH than nail or bow ninjs... last time i was helping a magic ninja to bergen after i just recorded it, then i realized he was sh... i was just like "oh sh*t that was the last class i didn't see sh" and if magic ninja continue to grow as its growing, those who SHed with nail will even more sh then... its not about sh,sh is another problem. the problem we talking tight now is overestimate and overpopulation of incompetent 9 clone build ninja. so many 9 clone build ninja fail to fully reduce their MaxHP percentage and they dont know buff from other class like warcry can inflate maxhp percentage. worse case scenario is like for example (also a real story from me) a total newbie like 1 month old newcomers wanna be ninja and begging higher lv players to help them farming ganei xtal. they just sit down in party watching other people work for them like a slave. stop treating higher lv players like your slave. if you just sit down watch others do something for you, thats has no brain/mental effort at all.even 6 years old kindergarten kid can do that. go find yourself farm party members or collect your own spina for ganei xtal. |
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asteg
Dank Meme Lord
yar yar...wind at ye backs me fellows.
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Post by asteg on Apr 23, 2016 15:16:48 GMT
Pets arnt people
So if pet is on relax/dont heal master and i dont die its not a solo
But if some a** hat assassin goes and makes a solo vid without pet but uses light green egg no one bats an eye
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eiric
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Post by eiric on Apr 23, 2016 15:54:18 GMT
Pets arnt people So if pet is on relax/dont heal master and i dont die its not a solo But if some a** hat assassin goes and makes a solo vid without pet but uses light green egg no one bats an eye I still consider having a pet on relax as a solo cuz I'd rather not have to town and run through 3 or 4 maps to get to the boss |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2016 19:29:07 GMT
I had this kind of arguement before with ingame friend. Soloing with or without pet. It is annoying tho, but I let him win since I can't stand with his ego characteristic. But in the end pet is another feature that asobimo release to help player to solo boss. You need to wait for many days to tame it as pet. Feed it everyday till u get desired skills to enchances soloing capability. Even if u not summoning it, if it got passive skill it will help u indirectly. Iirc there is pet crysta or even gear that support pet usage.
Think of it, if someone set that "true soloer" like not having any external support.
1. Don't be in guild since guild got some bonuses that affect your character.
2. Don't use pet. Since it can heal u/ revive u if die.
Then u will be true soloer just like Kirito (why am I mentioning him)
But I doubt many class really do that. So just love your pet like how Silica do. Summon them and let the adventure begin!
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