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Post by 7crimsonblades on Apr 18, 2015 4:52:16 GMT
I just hit lv200 and got illniss hit I was wondering if there is a high xp mob that does a status aliment for it often enough for me to grid and lv faster then I would at megas or ent warriors
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Post by bob on Apr 18, 2015 5:21:26 GMT
I just hit lv200 and got illniss hit I was wondering if there is a high xp mob that does a status aliment for it often enough for me to grid and lv faster then I would at megas or ent warriors I would say High ents cuz they poison often and don't have as much hp as mega/balors so you should be fine there  |
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Post by Rascally on Apr 18, 2015 16:15:06 GMT
High ents are very good for Enchanters to grind, use fire origin.
Eventually (if not now) baum warriors will be a good spot as they're pretty much a beefed up High Ent.
Ahh, the lonely grind till 220. We've all been there T.T
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Post by 7crimsonblades on Apr 18, 2015 17:40:03 GMT
Well high Ents is actually a lot slower and I kill most of them before they can poison me although ent warriors seem to take longer for near the same xp as megas solo
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Post by Rascally on Apr 18, 2015 17:58:06 GMT
Yes, you should be killing the majority of ents before they can poison you but illness hit is there if you need it. It's a good skill to have but is by no means an enchanter's main means of damage.
Didn't realise you were looking for something to grind solely with illness hit.
...why?
Ah my confusion, I'm guessing by ent warriors you meant High Ents?
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Aroxis
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Post by Aroxis on Apr 18, 2015 18:31:18 GMT
I think he means baum warriors when he says ent warriors.
IMO the best place to grind atm is baum warriors solo or in party. Make sure you have at least 2 ifrit xtals and a pramia.
Once you got those baum warriors are a breeze. I agree high ent was really slow for me and while they were easy to kill it took 3-4 high ents to see my exp bar move once.
Don't be fooled into thinking that enchanter is a solo only class, on my ench I almost never level solo because it simply twice as slow.
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Post by 7crimsonblades on Apr 18, 2015 20:10:51 GMT
Yes, you should be killing the majority of ents before they can poison you but illness hit is there if you need it. It's a good skill to have but is by no means an enchanter's main means of damage. Didn't realise you were looking for something to grind solely with illness hit. ...why? Ah my confusion, I'm guessing by ent warriors you meant High Ents? The reason why is it does 25k dmg when I'm poisoned compared to the low dmg it does without any aliment, and I'm a sword chanty for now pramia doesn't do near the dmg my Dia does my auto skills do 1-3k less dmg then with my Dia my earth gaiser almost beats pramia in dmg which is sad with the extra 5%+matk on pramia, also I'm to poor for great xtals I just have shojo and gurst, although pramia for Baum warriors is better then the earth gaiser, and yes I meant Baum warriors lol Also one last note my ability to get a party is roughly 10% most people want any class other then enchanter, assassin, and sniper despite their major abilities to do dmg |
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Post by Rascally on Apr 18, 2015 21:12:34 GMT
Ok I really would recommend you leave off the idea of grinding with illness hit as your main means of damage. It's not used at all without ailment and mobs don't inflict ailment often enough for it to be reliable. There have been threads about trying to rely on items to inflict ailment but most people agree that this simply isn't ideal or sustainable and does not improve dps.
High ent is good for an enchanter that's geared ok, the poison offers a nice amount of damage to be dealt from time to time but that's about it.
In that case, your problem is your gear. You do need better gear to be able to grind more effectively, that's a fact.
Do do you have a reduce bangle? That would help your damage output by allowing you to hit more often.
Is your Gerust in your Dia Espada? That would be why you're hitting more by autoskills with Dia Espada than with the pramia.
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Post by elias on Apr 19, 2015 5:57:41 GMT
Lv216 counter enchanter here. I agree with Rascally about using illness hit as main damage. The only reason u need is that after the aliment transfer, you get a 30sec resistance. That makes it un-spammable. Baum warriors proved to be a paradise for enchanters, specially for int/vit counter enchanters, just because these mobs hit a lot faster than Megaroches, and that makes us trigger our magic counters at full speed, killing 3 or more in just 2-3 minutes and with full hp (if you correctly keep your hp up with drain/stone skin). |
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Post by 7crimsonblades on Apr 19, 2015 22:17:12 GMT
Ok I really would recommend you leave off the idea of grinding with illness hit as your main means of damage. It's not used at all without ailment and mobs don't inflict ailment often enough for it to be reliable. There have been threads about trying to rely on items to inflict ailment but most people agree that this simply isn't ideal or sustainable and does not improve dps. High ent is good for an enchanter that's geared ok, the poison offers a nice amount of damage to be dealt from time to time but that's about it. In that case, your problem is your gear. You do need better gear to be able to grind more effectively, that's a fact. Do do you have a reduce bangle? That would help your damage output by allowing you to hit more often. Is your Gerust in your Dia Espada? That would be why you're hitting more by autoskills with Dia Espada than with the pramia. Yeah its in my Dia but, earth gaiser alone does more around the sane dmg as pramia like I said before the only real difference is that the atk dmg is higher with earth gaiser then pramias and that ones fire and ones earth, also gear wise I usually use Dia Espada+ gurst Dpr+ shojo Magia hood HP+20% (not sure on xtal) Reduce bangle n's I also usually switch out my Dia for fuma+ to buff and or drain |
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Post by anakbaru on Apr 20, 2015 6:41:15 GMT
we have baum warriors already ?
what map plz
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Post by meizi on Apr 21, 2015 1:50:59 GMT
Ok I really would recommend you leave off the idea of grinding with illness hit as your main means of damage. It's not used at all without ailment and mobs don't inflict ailment often enough for it to be reliable. There have been threads about trying to rely on items to inflict ailment but most people agree that this simply isn't ideal or sustainable and does not improve dps. High ent is good for an enchanter that's geared ok, the poison offers a nice amount of damage to be dealt from time to time but that's about it. In that case, your problem is your gear. You do need better gear to be able to grind more effectively, that's a fact. Do do you have a reduce bangle? That would help your damage output by allowing you to hit more often. Is your Gerust in your Dia Espada? That would be why you're hitting more by autoskills with Dia Espada than with the pramia. Yeah its in my Dia but, earth gaiser alone does more around the sane dmg as pramia like I said before the only real difference is that the atk dmg is higher with earth gaiser then pramias and that ones fire and ones earth, also gear wise I usually use Dia Espada+ gurst Dpr+ shojo Magia hood HP+20% (not sure on xtal) Reduce bangle n's I also usually switch out my Dia for fuma+ to buff and or drain Hi... Shojo work for enchanter? |
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Post by Aroxis on Apr 21, 2015 3:09:14 GMT
Yes, you should be killing the majority of ents before they can poison you but illness hit is there if you need it. It's a good skill to have but is by no means an enchanter's main means of damage. Didn't realise you were looking for something to grind solely with illness hit. ...why? Ah my confusion, I'm guessing by ent warriors you meant High Ents? The reason why is it does 25k dmg when I'm poisoned compared to the low dmg it does without any aliment, and I'm a sword chanty for now pramia doesn't do near the dmg my Dia does my auto skills do 1-3k less dmg then with my Dia my earth gaiser almost beats pramia in dmg which is sad with the extra 5%+matk on pramia, also I'm to poor for great xtals I just have shojo and gurst, although pramia for Baum warriors is better then the earth gaiser, and yes I meant Baum warriors lol Also one last note my ability to get a party is roughly 10% most people want any class other then enchanter, assassin, and sniper despite their major abilities to do dmg You are doing something wrong. I am a lvl 238 enchanter and I have grinded as a autoskill enchanter for almost 2 years. And I also know for a fact that no other gear even comes close to pramia on enchanter grind. People might say otherwise but I have tried almost all the weapons and I know for a fact that Dia does not do shizz on mobs. As a level 210 enchanter I could kill High ents in 7-10 seconds with pramia while with dia it took 15 seconds or so. Both had gerust. Also on Megas I killed them in usually 25 sec (19 sec being my fastest time) while with dia it usually took 30-40 seconds. Dia autoskill is weak. It casts mana wave which is a Uber noob skill, it does not do anything on bosses because it has no magic penetration. Pramia on the other hand has a much stronger autoskill and can pierce bosses way better. Heck at level 210 I was doing more dps on moldus than a assasin of the equivalent level. Pallys even had a hard time holding aggro bc i was casting too many autoskills. The other reason why pramia is better is because the attack animation of a claw is much faster that the attack animation of a sword. So basically you are getting more hits in with a claw than you are with a sword. Your last problem is that you have too many matk xtals. As a enchanter you generally want 1 magic attack xtal and 2 ifrit. Or if you using magia hood you want 2 matk xtal and 1 ifrit. Trust me if you want to grind easily with true DPS then using dia is definitly not the way to go. |
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Post by itoffee on Apr 21, 2015 4:37:56 GMT
I agree baum warriors are awesome. for counter enchys who like pt i recmmend u drain 4 baums amd lead them away from the pt. If you have HW or bishop it will still hit them with the AoE skills but theyre too far away to walk to them to take aggro.
New magic sword lumikening is sold for ridiculous amount. i dunno about the damage cuz it doesnt register to my battle log when someone tested it. It has an autoskill of blizzard.
No idea about attack animation, they same it just the same with sword but meh. try magia/ pole. it does higher dps due to the spellburst(compensated by +5% auto) that compared to mir/ifrit. Anyone tried using daiginjo tho? that 12% auto is awesome.
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Post by anakbaru on Apr 22, 2015 1:00:47 GMT
I agree baum warriors are awesome. for counter enchys who like pt i recmmend u drain 4 baums amd lead them away from the pt. If you have HW or bishop it will still hit them with the AoE skills but theyre too far away to walk to them to take aggro. New magic sword lumikening is sold for ridiculous amount. i dunno about the damage cuz it doesnt register to my battle log when someone tested it. It has an autoskill of blizzard. No idea about attack animation, they same it just the same with sword but meh. try magia/ pole. it does higher dps due to the spellburst(compensated by +5% auto) that compared to mir/ifrit. Anyone tried using daiginjo tho? that 12% auto is awesome. im using daiginjo, lv 191 now and counter proc rate like 80-90% now w/o lotus seed |
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