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Post by AnTz on Mar 28, 2015 16:17:14 GMT
Hi, Im in progress making an auto enchanter now (revive my previous dead enchanter exactly XD). I wan to know if my prepared gears set already good enough or not XD
Here is my set (dps): Dialan scythe 2s (fiona+gerust), DPR up (moldus), Snow earmuff (dunkelis), Guard ring (mezza) & ability: auto lv5+4 on add
Question:
1. Any suggestion for better dps set?
2. Should I change dunkelis with pole for more auto rate?
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Post by bob on Mar 28, 2015 16:43:01 GMT
Your set seems complete imo o-o especially dialan 2s *-* Henreich mail moldus would've been better than dpr as you already have auto abis. I would've recommend magia hood dunk instead of s earmuff. —my opinion—
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Post by Kirin。 on Mar 29, 2015 1:18:45 GMT
Pretty solid especially the dialan haha you could probably replace snow earmuff with magia hood or g. Cape but g cape needs lvl200 ithink for the autoskill+5% hehe dpr up is still the king body imo and autoskill is life haha itll never hurt to raise it to a very high degree  and since i absolutely think you can afford a slotted spec equip, i would like to recommend getting a slotted reduce bangle or boost ring |
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Post by AnTz on Mar 29, 2015 2:55:11 GMT
wow.. haha.. slotted boost ring *.* its my dream xD
so u think pole fits better than dunkelis?
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Post by MiLiGRiTo on Mar 29, 2015 5:37:58 GMT
My understanding of ench auto dps is
Autoskill #1 dmg x autoskill proc rate x hit rate
Autoskill #2 dmg x autoskill proc rate x hit rate
Etc.
Max of 4 autoskill, you add them all up and you can estimate how fast you can kill a mob in average.
You could either up your autoskill dmg (via matk or better auto skill) or your proc rate or add more autoskill to increase dps.
I am leaning to having more auto an proc rate for optimum dps and consistency although most would increase dmg because they feel more dmg = more dps which doesnt always seem to be the case especially for enchanters because they are all about chances. Simply put, high auto dmg is useless if it doesnt proc.
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Post by Kirin。 on Mar 30, 2015 0:08:20 GMT
wow.. haha.. slotted boost ring *.* its my dream xD so u think pole fits better than dunkelis? Idk stats of pole so im not sure what to recommend but dunkelis is always good |
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Post by AnTz on Mar 30, 2015 6:51:38 GMT
My understanding of ench auto dps is Autoskill #1 dmg x autoskill proc rate x hit rate Autoskill #2 dmg x autoskill proc rate x hit rate Etc. Max of 4 autoskill, you add them all up and you can estimate how fast you can kill a mob in average. You could either up your autoskill dmg (via matk or better auto skill) or your proc rate or add more autoskill to increase dps. I am leaning to having more auto an proc rate for optimum dps and consistency although most would increase dmg because they feel more dmg = more dps which doesnt always seem to be the case especially for enchanters because they are all about chances. Simply put, high auto dmg is useless if it doesnt proc. With current set, max auto rate I can get is: base auto rate (5%) + draw lv2 (10%) + DPR up (4%) + ability auto lv5&4 (9%) + altan (1%) + bonus from apostolia 6 purple lines (?%) = 29%++ I wonder its enough for stable dps. Thats why I think to use pole (int+5, auto+5%, spellburst+10%) to substitute dunkelis. Actually i also think to use witch eyepatch up coz it hav own autoskill & auto+6%, but its autoskill dmg is weak compared to s.earmuff autoskill @@ |
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Post by Capicuo on Mar 30, 2015 8:17:19 GMT
My understanding of ench auto dps is Autoskill #1 dmg x autoskill proc rate x hit rate Autoskill #2 dmg x autoskill proc rate x hit rate Etc. Max of 4 autoskill, you add them all up and you can estimate how fast you can kill a mob in average. You could either up your autoskill dmg (via matk or better auto skill) or your proc rate or add more autoskill to increase dps. I am leaning to having more auto an proc rate for optimum dps and consistency although most would increase dmg because they feel more dmg = more dps which doesnt always seem to be the case especially for enchanters because they are all about chances. Simply put, high auto dmg is useless if it doesnt proc. With current set, max auto rate I can get is: base auto rate (5%) + draw lv2 (10%) + DPR up (4%) + ability auto lv5&4 (9%) + altan (1%) + bonus from apostolia 6 purple lines (?%) = 29%++ I wonder its enough for stable dps. Thats why I think to use pole (int+5, auto+5%, spellburst+10%) to substitute dunkelis. Actually i also think to use witch eyepatch up coz it hav own autoskill & auto+6%, but its autoskill dmg is weak compared to s.earmuff autoskill @@ Slap an ifrit or another autoskill xta in it then. U will notice an increass in spellburst rate from autoskill rate too, so ur dmg shud b pretty high (if every auto proc). Another great add for us now is the new Daiginjo [Holyday] from raid tix lv 3 (upgraded version) wich i love so much *.* Accuracy-30%, Hate raise+30%, crt rate-70%, crt damage+22%, autoskill+12%. Yea ur reading ryt, 12% raw autoskill rate. Even with the accuracy & crt rate decrease i keep landing every hit bcuz of max DEX and purple lines from apostolia. Another good weapon from event is Indigo Beraker Bow (Upgraded version) Atk -35%, Evasion-30%, Matk+15%, Magic bow. Put another autoskill xta on it and ur done. Its matk boost is like ◆Gerust but without the skill delay penalty. Btw, how r u liking the Guard ring? I got many while farmming those fire kijimus from Epicenter. Is it worth the def boost from guard autoskill? |
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Post by MiLiGRiTo on Mar 30, 2015 8:43:33 GMT
My understanding of ench auto dps is Autoskill #1 dmg x autoskill proc rate x hit rate Autoskill #2 dmg x autoskill proc rate x hit rate Etc. Max of 4 autoskill, you add them all up and you can estimate how fast you can kill a mob in average. You could either up your autoskill dmg (via matk or better auto skill) or your proc rate or add more autoskill to increase dps. I am leaning to having more auto an proc rate for optimum dps and consistency although most would increase dmg because they feel more dmg = more dps which doesnt always seem to be the case especially for enchanters because they are all about chances. Simply put, high auto dmg is useless if it doesnt proc. With current set, max auto rate I can get is: base auto rate (5%) + draw lv2 (10%) + DPR up (4%) + ability auto lv5&4 (9%) + altan (1%) + bonus from apostolia 6 purple lines (?%) = 29%++ I wonder its enough for stable dps. Thats why I think to use pole (int+5, auto+5%, spellburst+10%) to substitute dunkelis. Actually i also think to use witch eyepatch up coz it hav own autoskill & auto+6%, but its autoskill dmg is weak compared to s.earmuff autoskill @@ I would say that your gear is out of focus. It consists of: 2 offensive autos (Dalian + your enchant) - you control this via ASPD and hit rate 2 counter autos (DPR + snow earmuff/witch eyepatch) - you control this via multi mob, and evasion doesn't blend well with this. It will also depend on how fast the mob/boss attacks. 1 def auto (guard ring) - adds no DPS If you want to be offensive, do 4 offensive autos. If defensive, do 4 counter autos. This is how you maximize your DPS. BTW, I don't think Guard Lv1 is impressive enough to compete with the benefits of a lotus seed or a reduce bangle. |
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Post by AnTz on Mar 30, 2015 8:56:50 GMT
With current set, max auto rate I can get is: base auto rate (5%) + draw lv2 (10%) + DPR up (4%) + ability auto lv5&4 (9%) + altan (1%) + bonus from apostolia 6 purple lines (?%) = 29%++ I wonder its enough for stable dps. Thats why I think to use pole (int+5, auto+5%, spellburst+10%) to substitute dunkelis. Actually i also think to use witch eyepatch up coz it hav own autoskill & auto+6%, but its autoskill dmg is weak compared to s.earmuff autoskill @@ I would say that your gear is out of focus. It consists of: 2 offensive autos (Dalian + your enchant) - you control this via ASPD and hit rate 2 counter autos (DPR + snow earmuff/witch eyepatch) - you control this via multi mob, and evasion doesn't blend well with this. It will also depend on how fast the mob/boss attacks. 1 def auto (guard ring) - adds no DPS If you want to be offensive, do 4 offensive autos. If defensive, do 4 counter autos. This is how you maximize your DPS. BTW, I don't think Guard Lv1 is impressive enough to compete with the benefits of a lotus seed or a reduce bangle. haha.. yeah..I get ur point. Till now I just concern bout gears with autoskill xD. n yeah i tend to be defensive actually, but i dun wan to dump dialan 2s unused. I think I can make separate set, offensive set for grind mob n easy boss, defensive set for vs hard boss |
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Post by MiLiGRiTo on Mar 30, 2015 9:06:04 GMT
haha.. yeah..I get ur point. Till now I just concern bout gears with autoskill xD. n yeah i tend to be defensive actually, but i dun wan to dump dialan 2s unused. I think I can make separate set, offensive set for grind mob n easy boss, defensive set for vs hard boss You might find counter set more effective in mobs (since you can tank many) while offensive set on bosses (since it is single target and you don't have AoE. Dalian 2s is useful as an offensive autoskiller and will still be useful once you become mblade spammer so you can't go wrong with it. |
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JunJunPow
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Post by JunJunPow on Mar 31, 2015 2:38:34 GMT
Hi, Im in progress making an auto enchanter now (revive my previous dead enchanter exactly XD). I wan to know if my prepared gears set already good enough or not XD Here is my set (dps): Dialan scythe 2s (fiona+gerust), DPR up (moldus), Snow earmuff (dunkelis), Guard ring (mezza) & ability: auto lv5+4 on add Question: 1. Any suggestion for better dps set? 2. Should I change dunkelis with pole for more auto rate? There are tons of equipment to choose from nowadays but normally there are 3 main things to be considered when choosing what equip to wear: autoskill type, MATK and autoskill boost bonus. If you can get two out of those three in one gear then IMO it should be worth getting. It's actually more complicated than it looks because of the diversity of gears (we're not even counting in attack interval and spellburst gears). Dialan 2s is a no-brainer, 2x Gerust for 40% MATK or 2x Fiona for a bit of delay and magic pierce, anything is fine really. Daiginjo Holiday upgrade from anniversary event actually looks promising, 12% autoskill almost equals autoskill boost from all of the available gears today(?) that you can wear on body, spec and weapon altogether but the downside is the hit rate. With Dialan though, you may want to overcap dex because magic sword also gains attack from DEX as well as a bit of MATK and hit rate. Of course there are other additionals such as Magia Hood, Glory Cape or Mage Fighter Cloak. For armor, there is still Altoshear, DPR and Gold Armor. You may want to swap out Moldus for an Ifrit for full offensive auto. As for spec, anything with Ifrit should be fine too, if you can get a Lotus seed slot or Reduce bangle slot then better. Overall your primary focus should be to boost autoskill proc rate without losing too much MATK while having autoskills on all four gears, autoskill rate being more important because no matter how high your autoskill damage is, if you can't get it to proc it's like having none at all. Rough calculation of the highest proc rate you can get with current gear available excluding crystals (somebody correct me if i'm wrong) is: Daiginjo Holiday up - 12% DPR up/Gold Armor - 4% Lotus Seeds - 5% Draw level 2 - 10% 6 Purple Lines from Apostolia (assuming it's 1% per line) 6% Autoskill lvl 5 & 4 - 9% Total - 46%That's almost 1 in 2 chance that a skill fires off, so imagine if you're guaranteed 2 or 3 autoskills per hit with 5 autos (including Enchant Weapon), moreso if you get all 5 to proc in one swing. Then again, this is a rough draft of where to go as an auto chanter and equipment should be entirely your decision. IDK how far we are from Leviathan boss but with Dialan 2s and all Levs (Ice Spear auto) + water origin you would be pretty OP. |
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Aroxis
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I get broads in atlanta tho :v
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Post by Aroxis on Apr 2, 2015 3:49:01 GMT
Get 2 matk xtals
Get 2 ifrit xtal problem solved
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Post by Kirin。 on Apr 2, 2015 14:20:41 GMT
Hi, Im in progress making an auto enchanter now (revive my previous dead enchanter exactly XD). I wan to know if my prepared gears set already good enough or not XD Here is my set (dps): Dialan scythe 2s (fiona+gerust), DPR up (moldus), Snow earmuff (dunkelis), Guard ring (mezza) & ability: auto lv5+4 on add Question: 1. Any suggestion for better dps set? 2. Should I change dunkelis with pole for more auto rate? There are tons of equipment to choose from nowadays but normally there are 3 main things to be considered when choosing what equip to wear: autoskill type, MATK and autoskill boost bonus. If you can get two out of those three in one gear then IMO it should be worth getting. It's actually more complicated than it looks because of the diversity of gears (we're not even counting in attack interval and spellburst gears). Dialan 2s is a no-brainer, 2x Gerust for 40% MATK or 2x Fiona for a bit of delay and magic pierce, anything is fine really. Daiginjo Holiday upgrade from anniversary event actually looks promising, 12% autoskill almost equals autoskill boost from all of the available gears today(?) that you can wear on body, spec and weapon altogether but the downside is the hit rate. With Dialan though, you may want to overcap dex because magic sword also gains attack from DEX as well as a bit of MATK and hit rate. Of course there are other additionals such as Magia Hood, Glory Cape or Mage Fighter Cloak. For armor, there is still Altoshear, DPR and Gold Armor. You may want to swap out Moldus for an Ifrit for full offensive auto. As for spec, anything with Ifrit should be fine too, if you can get a Lotus seed slot or Reduce bangle slot then better. Overall your primary focus should be to boost autoskill proc rate without losing too much MATK while having autoskills on all four gears, autoskill rate being more important because no matter how high your autoskill damage is, if you can't get it to proc it's like having none at all. Rough calculation of the highest proc rate you can get with current gear available excluding crystals (somebody correct me if i'm wrong) is: Daiginjo Holiday up - 12% DPR up/Gold Armor - 4% Lotus Seeds - 5% Draw level 2 - 10% 6 Purple Lines from Apostolia (assuming it's 1% per line) 6% Autoskill lvl 5 & 4 - 9% Total - 46%That's almost 1 in 2 chance that a skill fires off, so imagine if you're guaranteed 2 or 3 autoskills per hit with 5 autos (including Enchant Weapon), moreso if you get all 5 to proc in one swing. Then again, this is a rough draft of where to go as an auto chanter and equipment should be entirely your decision. IDK how far we are from Leviathan boss but with Dialan 2s and all Levs (Ice Spear auto) + water origin you would be pretty OP. Ill still go for dpr up gold armor has -%melee resist |
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and since i absolutely think you can afford a slotted spec equip, i would like to recommend getting a slotted reduce bangle or boost ring 
