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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2015 2:38:29 GMT
Which one is better for tanking? not looking at damage.
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Post by Roxzen on Feb 24, 2015 2:39:07 GMT
Vit, hands down full vit.
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Post by Tilt*Madara on Feb 24, 2015 3:43:46 GMT
You can tank with both the same. Just that VIT gives you the HP which helps when tanking. So VIT hands down as said above.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2015 4:41:33 GMT
Thanks. Was just curious cuz I'm thinking of which to put. Agi would give me nice evade but low hp so basically dead when I do get hit. vit increases hp by approximately how much at 256? Any ideas?
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Post by ManaKhe on Feb 24, 2015 4:53:28 GMT
Bishops with Limit Break and 256 VIT have a little over 20k HP.
VIT is indeed the better choice hands down. At the moment there is currently only 1 class that can purely rely on AGI and that is Ninja. Monk can rely mostly on AGI but needs VIT to take a hit if they are a Claw build. Enchanter can also use AGI to help with tanking as an autoskill build however they still need VIT for tanking.
Also 256 AGI doesn't actually give you enough evasion to dodge most late game stuff, especially not as a Bishop.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2015 5:19:23 GMT
Ty for your explanation.
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Post by Jeancarlo on Feb 24, 2015 16:47:46 GMT
Bishops with Limit Break and 256 VIT have a little over 20k HP. VIT is indeed the better choice hands down. At the moment there is currently only 1 class that can purely rely on AGI and that is Ninja. Monk can rely mostly on AGI but needs VIT to take a hit if they are a Claw build. Enchanter can also use AGI to help with tanking as an autoskill build however they still need VIT for tanking. Also 256 AGI doesn't actually give you enough evasion to dodge most late game stuff, especially not as a Bishop. Add to this: AGI affects PHYSICAL EVA. It does nothing against magic/spells. VIT on the other hand, which provides HP, DEF, and MDEF, not only covers your defense but gives you a fairly massive HP that allows you take on any hit. Not sure how much a 1 VIT capped Bish has, HP wise but probably less than 10k? @ 241 w 1 20%HP xtal, with buffs including Limit, I run around with 23K HP. Can't recall what my Vit is but less than 200 I Think. |
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Post by Mahouko on Feb 24, 2015 19:24:34 GMT
Bishops with Limit Break and 256 VIT have a little over 20k HP. VIT is indeed the better choice hands down. At the moment there is currently only 1 class that can purely rely on AGI and that is Ninja. Monk can rely mostly on AGI but needs VIT to take a hit if they are a Claw build. Enchanter can also use AGI to help with tanking as an autoskill build however they still need VIT for tanking. Also 256 AGI doesn't actually give you enough evasion to dodge most late game stuff, especially not as a Bishop. Add to this: AGI affects PHYSICAL EVA. It does nothing against magic/spells. VIT on the other hand, which provides HP, DEF, and MDEF, not only covers your defense but gives you a fairly massive HP that allows you take on any hit. Not sure how much a 1 VIT capped Bish has, HP wise but probably less than 10k? @ 241 w 1 20%HP xtal, with buffs including Limit, I run around with 23K HP. Can't recall what my Vit is but less than 200 I Think. My non Vit Bish (Int/Agi/Dex) has ~5k base hp unbuffed @266, so less than 10k like you said. Also, most Vit Bishops I know who are capped, say no more than 200 Vit is needed or even wanted. I believe they're maxing Int & Dex instead. |
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Post by Pixie on Apr 15, 2015 6:15:13 GMT
Bishops with Limit Break and 256 VIT have a little over 20k HP. VIT is indeed the better choice hands down. At the moment there is currently only 1 class that can purely rely on AGI and that is Ninja. Monk can rely mostly on AGI but needs VIT to take a hit if they are a Claw build. Enchanter can also use AGI to help with tanking as an autoskill build however they still need VIT for tanking. Also 256 AGI doesn't actually give you enough evasion to dodge most late game stuff, especially not as a Bishop. Add to this: AGI affects PHYSICAL EVA. It does nothing against magic/spells. VIT on the other hand, which provides HP, DEF, and MDEF, not only covers your defense but gives you a fairly massive HP that allows you take on any hit. Not sure how much a 1 VIT capped Bish has, HP wise but probably less than 10k? @ 241 w 1 20%HP xtal, with buffs including Limit, I run around with 23K HP. Can't recall what my Vit is but less than 200 I Think. slight correction vit is physical defense and int in mdef |
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Post by ☪Ⓛⓐⓩⓘ on Apr 15, 2015 8:59:01 GMT
slight correction vit is physical defense and int in mdef Adding stat points to vit also increases mdef |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2015 9:09:43 GMT
slight correction vit is physical defense and int in mdef Adding stat points to vit also increases mdef True, I get slight mdef when adding a vit. And regarding with OP question, I go for Vit, all the answer was stated correctly. Vit gives you HP pool, and damage reduction. As for Agi yes you have good evaasion, but since your HP is too low you might die quick if a mob or boss break through you agility. Also I've noticed these new mobs that currently present has an high accuracy rate. |
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Post by Jeancarlo on Apr 15, 2015 12:50:42 GMT
Add to this: AGI affects PHYSICAL EVA. It does nothing against magic/spells. VIT on the other hand, which provides HP, DEF, and MDEF, not only covers your defense but gives you a fairly massive HP that allows you take on any hit. Not sure how much a 1 VIT capped Bish has, HP wise but probably less than 10k? @ 241 w 1 20%HP xtal, with buffs including Limit, I run around with 23K HP. Can't recall what my Vit is but less than 200 I Think. slight correction vit is physical defense and int in mdef *yawn* sorry too early for me, but please be 100% sure when trying to correct a two month old thread, lol |
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Post by jaffet03 on Jul 26, 2015 14:12:38 GMT
ye agi only evade normal atacks bt cant evade magic and crtical atcks i dunno about special atcks . crt atk on the othe hand is evaded by absolute eva which is not scope of agi agi onl adds what i said normal atck evade
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Post by bikini on Jul 26, 2015 21:45:16 GMT
u can use, altan ai, or hp abi and red line apostolia for increase hp and use agi on stat.
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Post by ricmoon on Jul 28, 2015 0:26:53 GMT
I saw a 7k matk with max agi stat and with the spec that has agi:matk slotted(forgot the name).. but dunno about his survivability..
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