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Post by MiLiGRiTo on Feb 3, 2015 15:46:54 GMT
The way that I seem to spend the least spina/time is this, just my opinion though. +1-Hematite +2-Hematite +3-Hematite +4-Hematite/D Steel(If frustrated) +5-D Steel +6-Mythril +7-Mythril +8-Orichalcum +9-Orichalcum I usually just start with D Steel mostly coz I have lugging Hema around TBH, I have yet to get a +9 Note: Refining gets harder the "better" your gear is From easiest to hardest NS > S No up > UP > RE-UP So you want to refine before you Up any thing. I never knew it was harder to refine upgraded stuff. I usually +9 my stuff as soon as I get one (except when I am lazy) What I do know for sure is that 2slots are harder to refine because they can get -3 penalty. It makes refining 1slot a piece of cake.
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Post by Jeancarlo on Feb 3, 2015 16:51:36 GMT
I usually just start with D Steel mostly coz I have lugging Hema around TBH, I have yet to get a +9 Note: Refining gets harder the "better" your gear is From easiest to hardest NS > S No up > UP > RE-UP So you want to refine before you Up any thing. I never knew it was harder to refine upgraded stuff. I usually +9 my stuff as soon as I get one (except when I am lazy) What I do know for sure is that 2slots are harder to refine because they can get -3 penalty. It makes refining 1slot a piece of cake. Sorry, I believe the 2S should be in that line actually (between S No UP and UP) since 2S is harder than 1S. -3 penalty can occur on ANY items though. I've experienced it on 1S, Up, and even Re-up (never tried to + a 2s lol, just sold it )
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Post by MiLiGRiTo on Feb 3, 2015 23:24:03 GMT
I never knew it was harder to refine upgraded stuff. I usually +9 my stuff as soon as I get one (except when I am lazy) What I do know for sure is that 2slots are harder to refine because they can get -3 penalty. It makes refining 1slot a piece of cake. Sorry, I believe the 2S should be in that line actually (between S No UP and UP) since 2S is harder than 1S. -3 penalty can occur on ANY items though. I've experienced it on 1S, Up, and even Re-up (never tried to + a 2s lol, just sold it ) the -3 must be rare to happen In 1s because I never get It. While In 2s It happens so frequent that It Is frustrating.
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Post by Jeancarlo on Feb 3, 2015 23:31:34 GMT
Sorry, I believe the 2S should be in that line actually (between S No UP and UP) since 2S is harder than 1S. -3 penalty can occur on ANY items though. I've experienced it on 1S, Up, and even Re-up (never tried to + a 2s lol, just sold it ) the -3 must be rare to happen In 1s because I never get It. While In 2s It happens so frequent that It Is frustrating. Maybe luck (says the guy who's yet to refine to +9!)? In fact I just saw this again on a Wound xfer two weekends ago. Got it to 7 then boom back to 4. Finally got it to "final" +8 and done.
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Post by Ryukengan on Feb 4, 2015 1:17:25 GMT
What I found for myself to be the most efficient way: - +0-3 Hematite
- 3-5 Damascus Steel (always depends on the base item you're upgrading, generally
- 5-8 Mythril (only if it's a very low base item I'd try for +8)
- 7-9 Orichalcum
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Post by Jeancarlo on Feb 4, 2015 1:38:09 GMT
What I found for myself to be the most efficient way: - +0-3 Hematite
- 3-5 Damascus Steel (always depends on the base item you're upgrading, generally
- 5-8 Mythril (only if it's a very low base item I'd try for +8)
- 7-9 Orichalcum
What is "very low base item"? like NS? I'd love to get to 8 with Mythril, lol but honestly end up using Ori just to get to 7 sometimes
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Post by quitted on Feb 4, 2015 1:58:31 GMT
my tips: if you working on smithing production and get the lv52 wrought iron recipe, you can skip alot ot time on farming hematite because wrought iron makes refining instantly become +5. lv52 wrought iron recipe only need 1 zolban's loot broken blade. i barely need hematite since i got the lv52 wrought iron recipe.
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Post by Ryukengan on Feb 4, 2015 2:20:10 GMT
What I found for myself to be the most efficient way: - +0-3 Hematite
- 3-5 Damascus Steel (always depends on the base item you're upgrading, generally
- 5-8 Mythril (only if it's a very low base item I'd try for +8)
- 7-9 Orichalcum
What is "very low base item"? like NS? I'd love to get to 8 with Mythril, lol but honestly end up using Ori just to get to 7 sometimes If you pay attention it depends on the item you are refining, how much the refinement costs, if the refinement is very cheap you can just use Mythril, if it costs above 2/3.5k I just use Ori instead.
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Post by Jeancarlo on Feb 4, 2015 16:43:46 GMT
What is "very low base item"? like NS? I'd love to get to 8 with Mythril, lol but honestly end up using Ori just to get to 7 sometimes If you pay attention it depends on the item you are refining, how much the refinement costs, if the refinement is very cheap you can just use Mythril, if it costs above 2/3.5k I just use Ori instead. O.O I never knew!!! Thanks! I'll have to pay more attention to the cost. I Thought they were static!
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Post by GaucheXI on Feb 4, 2015 16:45:25 GMT
I'm really pissed that iruna removed the 360 coin box from free box per day. Id rather get a hammer to make my cheap ns items to slot then get wigs and face jobs XD refine it and then slot it O^0)/
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Post by Jeancarlo on Feb 4, 2015 16:54:21 GMT
I'm really pissed that iruna removed the 360 coin box from free box per day. Id rather get a hammer to make my cheap ns items to slot then get wigs and face jobs XD refine it and then slot it O^0)/ Huh? The Free Coin box was the 180 coin box, not 360? They're bought still available for Purchase.
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Post by super n00b on Feb 4, 2015 17:11:54 GMT
my tips: if you working on smithing production and get the lv52 wrought iron recipe, you can skip alot ot time on farming hematite because wrought iron makes refining instantly become +5. lv52 wrought iron recipe only need 1 zolban's loot broken blade. i barely need hematite since i got the lv52 wrought iron recipe. You could simply get wrought iron (+5) by farming...
- Hard Colon, Draghit, Hogume, Vogen, Paco
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Post by quitted on Feb 4, 2015 19:20:46 GMT
my tips: if you working on smithing production and get the lv52 wrought iron recipe, you can skip alot ot time on farming hematite because wrought iron makes refining instantly become +5. lv52 wrought iron recipe only need 1 zolban's loot broken blade. i barely need hematite since i got the lv52 wrought iron recipe. You could simply get wrought iron (+5) by farming...
- Hard Colon, Draghit, Hogume, Vogen, Paco
yup i know there are monsters drop smelt ores, but their drop speed is very slow. i can 1 stack of wrought iron in less than 1 hour.....1 zolban kill =1 wrought iron, very easy . believe me smithing production is worthy to do if you refine equipments a lot.
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Post by GaucheXI on Feb 4, 2015 20:01:00 GMT
I'm really pissed that iruna removed the 360 coin box from free box per day. Id rather get a hammer to make my cheap ns items to slot then get wigs and face jobs XD refine it and then slot it O^0)/ Huh? The Free Coin box was the 180 coin box, not 360? They're bought still available for Purchase. Nope, you know free boxes day? Where you could get free avatar boxes. People complained that they opened the 180 tool box so they removed they removed the free 360 tool box from free avatar days. The 360 tool box has tools that make ns items into slot T~T I remember when I used to spend my free avatar days opening the better tool box :/
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Post by Jeancarlo on Feb 4, 2015 20:02:30 GMT
Huh? The Free Coin box was the 180 coin box, not 360? They're bought still available for Purchase. Nope, you know free boxes day? Where you could get free avatar boxes. People complained that they opened the 180 tool box so they removed they removed the free 360 tool box from free avatar days. The 360 tool box has tools that make ns items into slot T~T I remember when I used to spend my free avatar days opening the better tool box :/ Oh! Nvm then. Are there free boxes Now? Logged in this morning and NO boxes were free
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