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Post by Tilt*Madara on May 12, 2015 17:13:04 GMT
Just throwing this out there
Dinat Imo is still the best grinding staff for bishops mostly because of the already high matk and the mp cost reductiom (cost reduction helps your bless keep you full of MP)
Resty as said above is better for boss soloing or when your fighting and will be getting hit
As for Megustis and f.book, I have not tested them BUT I can say that Meg is overall better for bishop. F.book is mostly matk and does not support healing well, which is a big part of being a bishop.
Also if anyone has actually tested or found a reliable source of info for the amount of matk added by Dinat with Vit and F.book with dex please let me know and post some sort of proof if possible. There are wayyy to many diff answers for these lol
Also Ill be getting more info on the new rod
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Post by Tilt*Madara on May 12, 2015 17:14:19 GMT
hey Tilt*Madara, for ambition i would put in ** or () watch out for the auto skill because it overrides bless, i know you put hp regen by def, but i think its worth emphasizing so people don't end up being pissy when their bless disappears ways to overcome this would be helpful Thanks for catching that. Ill fix it once I get home.
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Post by Niu on May 12, 2015 17:26:01 GMT
Isn't resty still better than dinat for normal grinding? (Unless your vit is infinite...) I don't know machtrario stats and I hope resty isn't outdated yet. resty is A very slow and B better suited for boss grinds instead of mob grinds, dinat has better matk and the matk by bit is constant unlike the matk rise for 10 secs by resty, its better if you're farming mobs that don't die in one hit, or bosses, machtrario is matk13% absolute eva 2% hate rise-25%? or something like that someone will have to post all stats I'm not able to access jp atm I think I found Machtrario stats ATK: 224-234-239 MATK + 12% heal recovery + 3% absolute avoidance + 3% hate increase -15% magic power increases obtained in response to Lv Okay, it seems pretty good.
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Post by _ on May 12, 2015 17:28:40 GMT
resty is A very slow and B better suited for boss grinds instead of mob grinds, dinat has better matk and the matk by bit is constant unlike the matk rise for 10 secs by resty, its better if you're farming mobs that don't die in one hit, or bosses, machtrario is matk13% absolute eva 2% hate rise-25%? or something like that someone will have to post all stats I'm not able to access jp atm I think I found Machtrario stats ATK: 224-234-239 MATK + 12% heal recovery + 3% absolute avoidance + 3% hate increase -15% magic power increases obtained in response to Lv Okay, it seems pretty good. seems about right, i had one and sold it within minutes so i never got a chance to look at stats, but yeah, its decent but dinat is still better if you the more your Vit is
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Post by Jeancarlo on May 12, 2015 17:43:59 GMT
Just throwing this out there Dinat Imo is still the best grinding staff for bishops mostly because of the already high matk and the mp cost reductiom (cost reduction helps your bless keep you full of MP) Resty as said above is better for boss soloing or when your fighting and will be getting hit I'm very much a supporter of Resty, but it is indeed situational. If you're farming 1-hit mobs (and are not aggroing you otherwise), resty is not even in the top 5. But anything that does survive your 1-hit and has friends (more mobs to hit you), and resty is still the best out there IMO. The buff, while only 10 seconds long, kicks in pretty frequently (even with the slow moving nommars) that you're buffed more than half the time.
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Post by saanda on May 12, 2015 18:34:51 GMT
Just throwing this out there Dinat Imo is still the best grinding staff for bishops mostly because of the already high matk and the mp cost reductiom (cost reduction helps your bless keep you full of MP) As for Megustis and f.book, I have not tested them BUT I can say that Meg is overall better for bishop. F.book is mostly matk and does not support healing well, which is a big part of being a bishop. Also if anyone has actually tested or found a reliable source of info for the amount of matk added by Dinat with Vit and F.book with dex please let me know and post some sort of proof if possible. There are wayyy to many diff answers for these lol Is dinat's -mp cost that major? (not being sarcastic) As for F.book, it works well, again, for solo grinding. Serves its purpose for me, until I can get my hands on a Megistus. If I were doing the bishop thing, I would use heal staff, for its -skill delay.
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Post by Famine on May 12, 2015 18:40:33 GMT
Just throwing this out there Dinat Imo is still the best grinding staff for bishops mostly because of the already high matk and the mp cost reductiom (cost reduction helps your bless keep you full of MP) As for Megustis and f.book, I have not tested them BUT I can say that Meg is overall better for bishop. F.book is mostly matk and does not support healing well, which is a big part of being a bishop. Also if anyone has actually tested or found a reliable source of info for the amount of matk added by Dinat with Vit and F.book with dex please let me know and post some sort of proof if possible. There are wayyy to many diff answers for these lol Is dinat's -mp cost that major? (not being sarcastic) As for F.book, it works well, again, for solo grinding. Serves its purpose for me, until I can get my hands on a Megistus. If I were doing the bishop thing, I would use heal staff, for its -skill delay. I wouldn't say its a major thing, but having -mp cost certainly does help. After you stack enough -mp cost and mp recovery+, spellboost crystal becomes totally viable for Bish, so I am a big fan of it
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Post by _ on May 12, 2015 18:41:33 GMT
Just throwing this out there Dinat Imo is still the best grinding staff for bishops mostly because of the already high matk and the mp cost reductiom (cost reduction helps your bless keep you full of MP) As for Megustis and f.book, I have not tested them BUT I can say that Meg is overall better for bishop. F.book is mostly matk and does not support healing well, which is a big part of being a bishop. Also if anyone has actually tested or found a reliable source of info for the amount of matk added by Dinat with Vit and F.book with dex please let me know and post some sort of proof if possible. There are wayyy to many diff answers for these lol Is dinat's -mp cost that major? (not being sarcastic) As for F.book, it works well, again, for solo grinding. Serves its purpose for me, until I can get my hands on a Megistus. If I were doing the bishop thing, I would use heal staff, for its -skill delay. heal staff/branch has a 50% penalty to dmg of all types of magic,
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Post by saanda on May 12, 2015 18:44:38 GMT
Is dinat's -mp cost that major? (not being sarcastic) As for F.book, it works well, again, for solo grinding. Serves its purpose for me, until I can get my hands on a Megistus. If I were doing the bishop thing, I would use heal staff, for its -skill delay. heal staff/branch has a 50% penalty to dmg of all types of magic, Like I said, 'bishop thing'. Which, imo, is healing/buffing.
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Post by saanda on May 12, 2015 18:47:14 GMT
I wouldn't say its a major thing, but having -mp cost certainly does help. After you stack enough -mp cost and mp recovery+, spellboost crystal becomes totally viable for Bish, so I am a big fan of it Whoa, there's a project lol. Nice!
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Post by Jeancarlo on May 12, 2015 20:15:14 GMT
I wouldn't say its a major thing, but having -mp cost certainly does help. After you stack enough -mp cost and mp recovery+, spellboost crystal becomes totally viable for Bish, so I am a big fan of it Whoa, there's a project lol. Nice! If you're really going to look into that, make sure to add using CMO to your set. It's inexpesive/easy to farm, lasts 30 minutes, and adds 1% of your MP per tick (going by memory) Edit: I may have over estimated the 5% lol; probably 1-1.5% only
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Post by _ on May 12, 2015 20:38:59 GMT
Whoa, there's a project lol. Nice! If you're really going to look into that, make sure to add using CMO to your set. It's inexpesive/easy to farm, lasts 30 minutes, and adds 1% of your MP per tick (going by memory) Edit: I may have over estimated the 5% lol; probably 1-1.5% only heya heres jp information on the formula Cracked magic stone was Effect: about 30 minutes MP recovery every 10 seconds (1% + 10 of the recovery amount MaxMP) Available: Rokochiro Lv178 , frappe Lv225 , Sutokki Lv278-279-280 , Pureza Lv293-295-298 , Morufi Lv319 · 322 Sale price: 275
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Post by Jeancarlo on May 12, 2015 20:44:28 GMT
If you're really going to look into that, make sure to add using CMO to your set. It's inexpesive/easy to farm, lasts 30 minutes, and adds 1% of your MP per tick (going by memory) Edit: I may have over estimated the 5% lol; probably 1-1.5% only heya heres jp information on the formula Cracked magic stone was Effect: about 30 minutes MP recovery every 10 seconds (1% + 10 of the recovery amount MaxMP) Available: Rokochiro Lv178 , frappe Lv225 , Sutokki Lv278-279-280 , Pureza Lv293-295-298 , Morufi Lv319 · 322 Sale price: 275 Thanks! That makes sense; i recall my nin getting ~35/tick but he only had ~2500 MP (so would be 25+10) so was thinking more than 1% Bish with 12-14K MP would get 130-150/tick. That's half a salt per tick lol
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reb13
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Post by reb13 on May 14, 2015 12:40:24 GMT
Shuld create a lvling section:3 just a thought xP
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Post by Tilt*Madara on May 14, 2015 13:40:53 GMT
Shuld create a lvling section:3 just a thought xP Ive been working on it for a while lol. It's just a little annoying to make especially before level 180. I will put it up eventually. Just want to fine tune some things first
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