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Post by NeedStuffForProd!! on Nov 15, 2014 14:36:21 GMT
Hero fellow sins I would like some help. I'm planning on making a Backstab spam sin and I'm thinking max Dex/Int and str if flaws in that pls enlighten me. Also what gear would benefit such build
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Post by Flarius on Nov 15, 2014 15:45:18 GMT
Hero fellow sins I would like some help. I'm planning on making a Backstab spam sin and I'm thinking max Dex/Int and str if flaws in that pls enlighten me. Also what gear would benefit such build Ive tried that build recently,and guess what, a dps spammer without crt,get a huge reduction in dmg. The benefit of this build,with sicarius skill on, u get max stun time, but still,not considered long enough to finish boss before it counterattacks, ended up dead. 2nd benefit is,u can pass through many hi def bosses,because of ur super high base atk, but, take note,ur dmg cant go far beyond the limit, because over 15-20 backstab, only one bs chance to trigger double bs,so in total, medium rate of crt+str is much more better than full str. The damage reduction is occuring because of the nature of assassin itself, without crt, u have wasted crt buff such as hawkeye thus makin the buff unable to be used fully. As i tested by resetting 5-6 times for that build, in my opinion,i think the best bs spammer need to use int,dex,crt and str as stats.the result is much better than just focussing on 3 stats only, As for gear, better ask godofafro,dps bs spammer is his nature so he knows better xD
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Post by sorpig on Nov 15, 2014 16:26:13 GMT
hey Flarius...for ur solo sin build is it useful to add STR for Sicarius...would that be splitting the stats too thin?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2014 19:48:54 GMT
I agree with flarius INT/DEX/CRT/STR would be better (str is for if you wanna make use of sicarus) 75 would be the minimum
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Post by NeedStuffForProd!! on Nov 15, 2014 20:11:30 GMT
Hero fellow sins I would like some help. I'm planning on making a Backstab spam sin and I'm thinking max Dex/Int and str if flaws in that pls enlighten me. Also what gear would benefit such build Ive tried that build recently,and guess what, a dps spammer without crt,get a huge reduction in dmg. The benefit of this build,with sicarius skill on, u get max stun time, but still,not considered long enough to finish boss before it counterattacks, ended up dead. 2nd benefit is,u can pass through many hi def bosses,because of ur super high base atk, but, take note,ur dmg cant go far beyond the limit, because over 15-20 backstab, only one bs chance to trigger double bs,so in total, medium rate of crt+str is much more better than full str. The damage reduction is occuring because of the nature of assassin itself, without crt, u have wasted crt buff such as hawkeye thus makin the buff unable to be used fully. As i tested by resetting 5-6 times for that build, in my opinion,i think the best bs spammer need to use int,dex,crt and str as stats.the result is much better than just focussing on 3 stats only, As for gear, better ask godofafro,dps bs spammer is his nature so he knows better xD Thanks Flarius and Achilles but question would it be OK if I max into then max Dex then 75str rest crt? BTW what is skill delay? I've been told it'll help me save some points in dex also from Hawkeye? Ty in advance
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Post by funspeed on Nov 16, 2014 5:38:53 GMT
cast speed and skill delay are a bit different aren't they? it's like how long it takes to cast a spell and the cool down before using it again. -not 100% someone correct that if I'm wrong. the assassin in my guild is struggling. at 165~ I think they treat today but even after reading this forum over and over again I don't get any real sense of an established build/established role in parties. also the skill distribution doesn't seem to work out until you can max about three stats, maxing int, then doing 120 agi, more crit or dex... I guess because it's such a small population there really are just a lot of the players who could put the money and the effort into being an assassin doing their own thing? and resetting stats along the way once the new skills arrive and change the capabilities and what to prioritize. I can't wrap my head around this class but I'm trying
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Post by Flarius on Nov 16, 2014 6:11:44 GMT
hey Flarius...for ur solo sin build is it useful to add STR for Sicarius...would that be splitting the stats too thin? Yep,tested it already, not enough stats x.x, by sacrificing 75 stats to str,we get a minimal amount of stunt,but its just not enough, since solo build have casting delay,the stun is wasted e.e , better stick to no str for solo build
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Post by Flarius on Nov 16, 2014 6:31:22 GMT
Ive tried that build recently,and guess what, a dps spammer without crt,get a huge reduction in dmg. The benefit of this build,with sicarius skill on, u get max stun time, but still,not considered long enough to finish boss before it counterattacks, ended up dead. 2nd benefit is,u can pass through many hi def bosses,because of ur super high base atk, but, take note,ur dmg cant go far beyond the limit, because over 15-20 backstab, only one bs chance to trigger double bs,so in total, medium rate of crt+str is much more better than full str. The damage reduction is occuring because of the nature of assassin itself, without crt, u have wasted crt buff such as hawkeye thus makin the buff unable to be used fully. As i tested by resetting 5-6 times for that build, in my opinion,i think the best bs spammer need to use int,dex,crt and str as stats.the result is much better than just focussing on 3 stats only, As for gear, better ask godofafro,dps bs spammer is his nature so he knows better xD Thanks Flarius and Achilles but question would it be OK if I max into then max Dex then 75str rest crt? BTW what is skill delay? I've been told it'll help me save some points in dex also from Hawkeye? Ty in advance Every 20 dex ,u get -0.5 sec of backstab skill delay, so with hawkeye buff, u just need 245 dex to get shortest bs skill delay
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Post by NeedStuffForProd!! on Nov 16, 2014 6:43:50 GMT
Hmm so I guess I'll do 245dex full Int then 75str then rest crt
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Post by Flarius on Nov 16, 2014 6:47:14 GMT
cast speed and skill delay are a bit different aren't they? it's like how long it takes to cast a spell and the cool down before using it again. -not 100% someone correct that if I'm wrong. the assassin in my guild is struggling. at 165~ I think they treat today but even after reading this forum over and over again I don't get any real sense of an established build/established role in parties. also the skill distribution doesn't seem to work out until you can max about three stats, maxing int, then doing 120 agi, more crit or dex... I guess because it's such a small population there really are just a lot of the players who could put the money and the effort into being an assassin doing their own thing? and resetting stats along the way once the new skills arrive and change the capabilities and what to prioritize. I can't wrap my head around this class but I'm trying Ur right about cast time and cast delay, cast time is the bar from left to right, cast delay is right to left, btw i c that ur havin difficulties in buildin ur stats, here is some tips, 1) never build single stats alone while buildin ur char, build 2 stats at the phase of 2-1,example 2 int 1 crt 2) dps,need speed and damage, do focus on dex for speed cast or str for damage,no need agi of u wannabe true dps 3) try not to spend on more than 4 stats,a good of everything is a master of nothin 4) in terms of equipment, u need some support while developing ur char, some less in dmg,some slow in casting, so get a gear set that can support what u lack in the early stage. 5) as for me,dps? Max int,120-150 crt, 245 dex, 75 str if u want stun at lvl 240, after that,its easy to know,which stats i wanna focus on
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Post by funspeed on Nov 16, 2014 6:56:51 GMT
thanks for the clarification on that and the stat recommendations I'll pass that info along to the assassin she had like 8 steflys books and so she's trying things out. she uses a flabellum, weiss, and been trying different additional equips out and wears s seahorse bangle... she basically wants to be some kind of tank....I don't really get the reasoning for her first character to try to be a tanking assassin but she didn't know she was gonna get so into iruna when she started and was a bow hunter. Tried to get her to go samurai but she doesn't want to use swords so anyways I'll try to explain this info.
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Post by Flarius on Nov 16, 2014 7:01:57 GMT
thanks for the clarification on that and the stat recommendations I'll pass that info along to the assassin she had like 8 steflys books and so she's trying things out. she uses a flabellum, weiss, and been trying different additional equips out and wears s seahorse bangle... she basically wants to be some kind of tank....I don't really get the reasoning for her first character to try to be a tanking assassin but she didn't know she was gonna get so into iruna when she started and was a bow hunter. Tried to get her to go samurai but she doesn't want to use swords so anyways I'll try to explain this info. Try suggest her of reading my lone wolf solo assassin build, its tanky yet good dmg,and show some of my youtube vids,who knows xD
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Post by funspeed on Nov 16, 2014 7:05:23 GMT
I actually did show her your videos back when she decided against sniper as third tier lol I think you inspired her
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Post by funspeed on Nov 16, 2014 7:05:32 GMT
thanks again flarius
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Post by godofafro on Nov 16, 2014 10:30:40 GMT
its not a compulsary thing to get the short 5s stun by adding 75 str, in most scenarios this is useless.
a better use is to ultilize 75 points into somewhere else, if you needed survivability, vit or more agi, for example
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