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Post by Hells Gate on Aug 30, 2014 23:48:08 GMT
Sorry, but yhat makes no sense. It's based on current MP not max mp. It uses current MP and determines the damage. It isn't matk based either. So Yin garb would make no sense.
Readon i said i could be a type of magic attack is because it definitely isnt a physical atk see as to how it didn't do less then 600 damage but hit full force on vida also when i said current mp i meant current mp when u activate it.
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Post by Prayerz on Aug 30, 2014 23:53:59 GMT
Sorry, but yhat makes no sense. It's based on current MP not max mp. It uses current MP and determines the damage. It isn't matk based either. So Yin garb would make no sense. Readon i said i could be a type of magic attack is because it definitely isnt a physical atk see as to how it didn't do less then 600 damage but hit full force on vida also when i said current mp i meant current mp when u activate it. If it hit full force, then it would fall under the classification of 'Melee' attack. Which we all know ignores defenses.
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Post by godofafro on Aug 31, 2014 1:42:24 GMT
I dont think db is a physical nor melee type, someone mentioned in this thread that high wiz dealt halved damage to it (using magic spells) , its more of pure dmg? But still...if i remember, doesnt have any effect on purple barrier bosses like azimov or magonza. About that idea of a db assassin, is interesting idea, 45k seems very op for it.
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Post by Prayerz on Aug 31, 2014 2:23:40 GMT
I dont think db is a physical nor melee type, someone mentioned in this thread that high wiz dealt halved damage to it (using magic spells) , its more of pure dmg? But still...if i remember, doesnt have any effect on purple barrier bosses like azimov or magonza. About that idea of a db assassin, is interesting idea, 45k seems very op for it. The person with asian name is my friend's deathblow assassin.
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Post by godofafro on Aug 31, 2014 3:01:23 GMT
Further tested deathblow damage with 2808 max mp per test:
(Test subject- witch woods kijimu)
with no skills buffed: 35k roughly with vida xtal (+12%atk) taken off and NO skill buff: 34k roughly with vida xtal ON, buffed with hawkeye (+15% crit dmg) and execute (+17% crit dmg): roughly 39k
Used pudding (+600mp) and mp abi L2, max mp rose to 3478
with no skills buffed: 40335 with hawkeye and execute buff ON: 44509
changed weapon to fragarache throwing knife (it passively +12% max mp) slotted piton (+10% max mp) Note: unrefined at all my max mp rose to 4243 without any other buffs than pudding.
with no skills buffed: 40336 with hawkeye and execute buff ON: 42077
tested with weapon refine+9, crit dmg% up, atk% up- those indeed increase death blow overall damage, but the increment does not stand out. I can estimate that, deathblow damage formulae is something like...
deathblow damage= [(atk + crit dmg + weapon refine) x level ]+ mp amount used x 0.5
Something like that...
Anyway, your mp factor in most of the damage dealt. (About 85% of dmg)
Even with this data, deathblow still isnt effective unless ... (1) your facing a boss that have ridiculous base defense and your backstab is unable to pierce it, (which is very unlikely); (2) the boss constantly drops your attack power, elemental damage, drains mp to zero very often etcra. Negation of attack power is simple with potions, but elemental damage would be hard without a ench in pt
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Post by Prayerz on Aug 31, 2014 3:50:22 GMT
Further tested deathblow damage with 2808 max mp per test: (Test subject- witch woods kijimu) with no skills buffed: 35k roughly with vida xtal (+12%atk) taken off and NO skill buff: 34k roughly with vida xtal ON, buffed with hawkeye (+15% crit dmg) and execute (+17% crit dmg): roughly 39k Used pudding (+600mp) and mp abi L2, max mp rose to 3478 with no skills buffed: 40335 with hawkeye and execute buff ON: 44509 changed weapon to fragarache throwing knife (it passively +12% max mp) slotted piton (+10% max mp) Note: unrefined at all my max mp rose to 4243 without any other buffs than pudding. with no skills buffed: 40336 with hawkeye and execute buff ON: 42077 Will test with +9 frag later... lol this theorizes that to improve db dmg significantly, you need max mp up told you this bro xD
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Post by Hells Gate on Aug 31, 2014 13:56:32 GMT
With this deathblow can be simple put on one of the most costly and powerful moves learned at lvl160 wouldn't recomend it for training (unless you grind with a High wizard or have a crap ton of money to buy Mp regaining stuff) the skill can still be tested and with future updates and new equipment to boost Maxmp deathblow could soon reach damage as high as 100k pure damage hit on any mob or boss.
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Post by godofafro on Sept 1, 2014 8:01:42 GMT
So far, i can say that deathblow works wonder on boss that have high natural defense- only if your unable to pierce thru it through backstab, which is unlikely. Only scenario where my deathblow wins backstab damage is at specia boss, where it constantly drops your elemental attack damage greatly.
Also for above post that deathblow can hit 100k, yes its possible. Seen pictures of 13k mp users dealing that aggregate amount of damage, but how many hwiz or enchant can actually heal mp to that amount consistently for spam? 2-3 backstabs can overpower that damage... (in roughly same skill cast time too since 1 db around 3s)
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Post by aroxis on Sept 1, 2014 15:16:06 GMT
So far, i can say that deathblow works wonder on boss that have high natural defense- only if your unable to pierce thru it through backstab, which is unlikely. Only scenario where my deathblow wins backstab damage is at specia boss, where it constantly drops your elemental attack damage greatly. Also for above post that deathblow can hit 100k, yes its possible. Seen pictures of 13k mp users dealing that aggregate amount of damage, but how many hwiz or enchant can actually heal mp to that amount consistently for spam? 2-3 backstabs can overpower that damage... (in roughly same skill cast time too since 1 db around 3s) You shud test with bish revalation\prierie buffs o.o
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Post by ryuudeathbreaker on Sept 2, 2014 21:25:03 GMT
No, deathblow isn't a magic skill.
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Post by potato on Sept 4, 2014 3:38:36 GMT
maybe deathblow usefull at veltria? trade hp to mp xD
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Post by godofafro on Sept 4, 2014 13:04:00 GMT
maybe deathblow usefull at veltria? trade hp to mp xD i recall veltria debuffing all your skills along with it too...sooo ...
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Post by elk on Sept 14, 2014 6:24:07 GMT
I use death blow for leveling assassin all the time, 1 shot neknotts as agi/crit or on ents, I also use special bow for now. I party with a bishop for bless or mage ores for 30 min mp rec. It's honestly made leveling a lot simpler and I don't gotta deal with the waiting around for a pt -.- or a mega -.- forever hate mega
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Post by Umaru-chan on Sept 15, 2014 0:00:48 GMT
Why Yin Garb? ^_^
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Post by Hells Gate on Sept 16, 2014 17:54:38 GMT
I would say that deathblow isn't highly recomended for training... though i still consider solo bossing assassin's fastest way to lvl... now lvl 165 i solo bosses like rossam who drops 130k exp per kill with only 2-3 deaths minimal. I'm int agi crt and i use the backstab trick that i advice all agi crt solo builds to use.
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