Raikumi
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Post by Raikumi on Jan 3, 2015 12:36:56 GMT
Personally I prefer beelzetor because the delay from gerust kinda slows me down lol. But if you have delay gears to make up for gerust's +1 second skill delay use that. In terms of which is expensive Beelzetor is higher compared to Gerust. Only difference is that gerust has more matk (+20%) than beelzetor (+14%) I have Solve rod, Ultimi, Grecia Helm and Seahorse Bangle... Should i go for Gerust? If my memory serves me correctly,your Ultimi and Solve Rod has already cancelled the Gerust +1 second skill delay with their own -1.2 seconds skill delay.So it is better to go for Gerust rather than Beezletor,as nothing holds you back now. |
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CiwarR
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Post by CiwarR on Jan 3, 2015 12:44:21 GMT
Owh... Well ok then.. Thanks a lot.  |
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Post by Tilt*Madara on Jan 3, 2015 13:19:32 GMT
Personally I prefer beelzetor because the delay from gerust kinda slows me down lol. But if you have delay gears to make up for gerust's +1 second skill delay use that. In terms of which is expensive Beelzetor is higher compared to Gerust. Only difference is that gerust has more matk (+20%) than beelzetor (+14%) I have Solve rod, Ultimi, Grecia Helm and Seahorse Bangle... Should i go for Gerust? I replied to your other thread but ill reply again since i know your gear now. Choose beezleror. Hw needs skill delay. Dont wanna cancel the little skill delay you already have by using a gerust. Your pretty much keeping your damage the exact same dps wise. Use beezletor so you can have faster shots. 1sec delay is a lot to loose and a little to gain as a hwiz. Trash the ultime its holding you back x.x |
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Raikumi
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Post by Raikumi on Jan 3, 2015 13:25:46 GMT
I have Solve rod, Ultimi, Grecia Helm and Seahorse Bangle... Should i go for Gerust? I replied to your other thread but ill reply again since i know your gear now. Choose beezleror. Hw needs skill delay. Dont wanna cancel the little skill delay you already have by using a gerust. Your pretty much keeping your damage the exact same dps wise. Use beezletor so you can have faster shots. 1sec delay is a lot to loose and a little to gain as a hwiz. Trash the ultime its holding you back x.x But but....I believe it would contribute a major difference in term of damage with Imperial skill q.q. Note : It took me 30+ seconds to finally understand what you are trying to say XD |
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Post by Tilt*Madara on Jan 3, 2015 13:38:38 GMT
I replied to your other thread but ill reply again since i know your gear now. Choose beezleror. Hw needs skill delay. Dont wanna cancel the little skill delay you already have by using a gerust. Your pretty much keeping your damage the exact same dps wise. Use beezletor so you can have faster shots. 1sec delay is a lot to loose and a little to gain as a hwiz. Trash the ultime its holding you back x.x But but....I believe it would contribute a major difference in term of damage with Imperial skill q.q. Note : It took me 30+ seconds to finally understand what you are trying to say XD sorry about that lol. Ill be more clear. Using imperial with low skill delay is even worse actually since you have to chain offense together for imperial to hit at full force. Any great magic' cast time+normal delay speed+imperials cast time+imperials normal delay. once the combo is done the damage is higher. But think of the time where you have to spam the combo? take off 2 seconds to the great magic/imperial combo and you get slightly lower damage but you have the chance to use another skill or atleast get it started right after. And thats just in party play. The only way damage could be over speed in a good way is for one shot grinding purposes. And even then your still way slow. Even little things like drain have have a longer cooldown without skill delay. Think about who deals more damage over 10, 2p, 30 or even 40 seconds. The seconds of skill delay really add up. |
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Raikumi
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Post by Raikumi on Jan 3, 2015 13:50:49 GMT
But but....I believe it would contribute a major difference in term of damage with Imperial skill q.q. Note : It took me 30+ seconds to finally understand what you are trying to say XD sorry about that lol. Ill be more clear. Using imperial with low skill delay is even worse actually since you have to chain offense together for imperial to hit at full force. Any great magic' cast time+normal delay speed+imperials cast time+imperials normal delay. once the combo is done the damage is higher. But think of the time where you have to spam the combo? take off 2 seconds to the great magic/imperial combo and you get slightly lower damage but you have the chance to use another skill or atleast get it started right after. And thats just in party play. The only way damage could be over speed in a good way is for one shot grinding purposes. And even then your still way slow. Even little things like drain have have a longer cooldown without skill delay. Think about who deals more damage over 10, 2p, 30 or even 40 seconds. The seconds of skill delay really add up. Ah we need a mathematician expert for these kind of stuffs XD. But to be fair I will just say that every build and equip sets have their own disadvantage and advantage and none could overpower the others in term of all-round things. Since I do not know of the exact cast time and delay for each,I cannot actually simulate the damage in situation of which the damage that stacks after 40 seconds. o3o |
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Post by Tilt*Madara on Jan 3, 2015 14:11:02 GMT
sorry about that lol. Ill be more clear. Using imperial with low skill delay is even worse actually since you have to chain offense together for imperial to hit at full force. Any great magic' cast time+normal delay speed+imperials cast time+imperials normal delay. once the combo is done the damage is higher. But think of the time where you have to spam the combo? take off 2 seconds to the great magic/imperial combo and you get slightly lower damage but you have the chance to use another skill or atleast get it started right after. And thats just in party play. The only way damage could be over speed in a good way is for one shot grinding purposes. And even then your still way slow. Even little things like drain have have a longer cooldown without skill delay. Think about who deals more damage over 10, 2p, 30 or even 40 seconds. The seconds of skill delay really add up. Ah we need a mathematician expert for these kind of stuffs XD. But to be fair I will just say that every build and equip sets have their own disadvantage and advantage and none could overpower the others in term of all-round things. Since I do not know of the exact cast time and delay for each,I cannot actually simulate the damage in situation of which the damage that stacks after 40 seconds. o3o I based my answer off of my hwiz so ill tamper with the gear to make myself have no skill delay with a gerust. Its just my experience nothing tested for this specific topic but i can. Hooooooolllllldddddd ooonnnn EDIT: Nvm not interested in testing it x.x |
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CiwarR
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Post by CiwarR on Jan 4, 2015 1:58:19 GMT
Ah we need a mathematician expert for these kind of stuffs XD. But to be fair I will just say that every build and equip sets have their own disadvantage and advantage and none could overpower the others in term of all-round things. Since I do not know of the exact cast time and delay for each,I cannot actually simulate the damage in situation of which the damage that stacks after 40 seconds. o3o I based my answer off of my hwiz so ill tamper with the gear to make myself have no skill delay with a gerust. Its just my experience nothing tested for this specific topic but i can. Hooooooolllllldddddd ooonnnn EDIT: Nvm not interested in testing it x.x Its too late for Beelzetor now.. Aleady bought gerust e.e i think ill just Exelis to make-up for the skill delay of gerust and trash my Ultimi! Exelis up is so expensive tho. |
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