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Post by Prayerz on Aug 19, 2014 5:36:49 GMT
.-. Thanks for the guides on Nagas! My HP is now 7K .-. Divine bless gave 7.4k and HP sets gave 7.95K (imao) I am now 140 .-. I heal 5 k but no ppl want meh at megaroches (meh) so I did Naga again ? I have Hw partner .-. ? Should we do Naga or .. Hummers ? ( our matk is... Pretty low o.0 just 1.8k for me and her ) Anyone csan help ? (thanks for awesome guide .-. Checked it everyday XD) Glad to know it helped ^^ It's pretty tough getting a party for megaroche before 180, so if you have a high wiz partner, I'd suggest you both try neknotts. The exp is decent for how easy of a kill it is, and they mainly use matk, so magic users (us) excel here for grinding. You only need about 4-5k hp as well because their physical only hits around 2k max ^^
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Post by seymour on Aug 19, 2014 11:04:36 GMT
.-. Thanks for the guides on Nagas! My HP is now 7K .-. Divine bless gave 7.4k and HP sets gave 7.95K (imao) I am now 140 .-. I heal 5 k but no ppl want meh at megaroches (meh) so I did Naga again ? I have Hw partner .-. ? Should we do Naga or .. Hummers ? ( our matk is... Pretty low o.0 just 1.8k for me and her ) Anyone csan help ? (thanks for awesome guide .-. Checked it everyday XD) Glad to know it helped ^^ It's pretty tough getting a party for megaroche before 180, so if you have a high wiz partner, I'd suggest you both try neknotts. The exp is decent for how easy of a kill it is, and they mainly use matk, so magic users (us) excel here for grinding. You only need about 4-5k hp as well because their physical only hits around 2k max ^^ Ooh ... Ok .-. Can I ask 1 more thing ? When I solo what should I do ? Neeknots as well ? .-. XD sorry my 1st game
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Post by Prayerz on Aug 19, 2014 17:55:56 GMT
Glad to know it helped ^^ It's pretty tough getting a party for megaroche before 180, so if you have a high wiz partner, I'd suggest you both try neknotts. The exp is decent for how easy of a kill it is, and they mainly use matk, so magic users (us) excel here for grinding. You only need about 4-5k hp as well because their physical only hits around 2k max ^^ Ooh ... Ok .-. Can I ask 1 more thing ? When I solo what should I do ? Neeknots as well ? .-. XD sorry my 1st game Yeah that or nagas works ^^
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Post by seymour on Aug 20, 2014 10:50:23 GMT
Which is better ? Miv or Nagas ?
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Post by Prayerz on Aug 20, 2014 16:03:56 GMT
Which is better ? Miv or Nagas ? That's dependent on party set up on party set-up and kill speed. But, going off what you previously told me, Nagas would be better, due to them being dark element, and less kills/effort required to complete the quest. MiV would require high level aoe players to speed the kills up, and I am assuming you don't have that availble for help. But if you can find a party for this, then by all means, this is a better quest, giving around 600-700k more xp.
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Post by seymour on Aug 21, 2014 11:03:19 GMT
Which is better ? Miv or Nagas ? That's dependent on party set up on party set-up and kill speed. But, going off what you previously told me, Nagas would be better, due to them being dark element, and less kills/effort required to complete the quest. MiV would require high level aoe players to speed the kills up, and I am assuming you don't have that availble for help. But if you can find a party for this, then by all means, this is a better quest, giving around 600-700k more xp. Btw miv gave 940k .-. With the exp + event for quest .. Maybe 1m ? Still haven't try , but yeah agreed -_- I can barely kill em thankss ^.^ (143 now .-. Still far to nemesis)
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Post by Prayerz on Aug 21, 2014 15:42:46 GMT
That's dependent on party set up on party set-up and kill speed. But, going off what you previously told me, Nagas would be better, due to them being dark element, and less kills/effort required to complete the quest. MiV would require high level aoe players to speed the kills up, and I am assuming you don't have that availble for help. But if you can find a party for this, then by all means, this is a better quest, giving around 600-700k more xp. Btw miv gave 940k .-. With the exp + event for quest .. Maybe 1m ? Still haven't try , but yeah agreed -_- I can barely kill em thankss ^.^ (143 now .-. Still far to nemesis) FIGHT *^*)9 You'll get Nemesis soon, so don't give up ^^ And thanks for the info about the quest ^^
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Post by Jeancarlo on Aug 22, 2014 20:55:56 GMT
Was looking for Sanctuary description (debating on spending time to get or not lol) and noticed this, lol.
Can you expand on this? Assuming the original 3 mobs you hit didn't die, wouldn't your next casting hit the same 3 mobs? How can you pulling 4-5 when spamming? Maybe you mean pulling, as in getting aggro just due to distance without hitting the mob? Or does neme act totally differently than HW AoEs (which will hit the same mobs, and/or already active mobs against the pt)?
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Post by Lycca on Aug 22, 2014 21:10:13 GMT
ill hit 1st three mobs then target another 1 etc.. gettin good dps cuz viola has 10k+ additional magic dmg on def.
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Post by Jeancarlo on Aug 22, 2014 21:34:51 GMT
ill hit 1st three mobs then target another 1 etc.. gettin good dps cuz viola has 10k+ additional magic dmg on def. Ok, but you Have to Specifically Target the 4th mob, right? Other wise, Neme would hit those previous 3 mobs? GREAT point on Viola though, totally did not think about that and was only considering the MATK lol
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Post by Prayerz on Aug 22, 2014 22:32:18 GMT
Not necessarily. Lets say you're doing hit and run technique (casting, running a few steps away, and repeat) and you manage to stun one, so it stops moving, while the other two keep chasing you. Now, those two are the only close by hostile enemies, and a non hostile enemy decides to spawn next to other two just as you cast nemesis. Now, not only are the 3 enemies you previously had targeted hostile to you, but a fourth is as well, due to nemesis hitting only what's in range of it. But if you keep all 3 close to each other, then no worries, it'll target those 3 only. Example: Me and Almas were spamming nemesis at megas next to each other while partied, but going for separate targets (his 3, and my 3). They began running back and forth between us, and other spawning began to get hit as well. We eventually spawned and aggrod 10+ megas towards us, and.... died. Q.Q
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Post by Jeancarlo on Aug 22, 2014 22:37:03 GMT
Not necessarily. Lets say you're doing hit and run technique (casting, running a few steps away, and repeat) and you manage to stun one, so it stops moving, while the other two keep chasing you. Now, those two are the only close by hostile enemies, and a non hostile enemy decides to spawn next to other two just as you cast nemesis. Now, not only are the 3 enemies you previously had targeted hostile to you, but a fourth is as well, due to nemesis hitting only what's in range of it. But if you keep all 3 close to each other, then no worries, it'll target those 3 only. Example: Me and Almas were spamming nemesis at megas next to each other while partied, but going for separate targets (his 3, and my 3). They began running back and forth between us, and other spawning began to get hit as well. We eventually spawned and aggrod 10+ megas towards us, and.... died. Q.Q IC IC so Neme is different from HW AoE then, in that subsequent AoEs (EQ, Met, or Bliz) will only hit what's already active up to 3 targets. The only time these would hit a New mob would be if there's less than 3 active ones (unless your PT members actively activate more mobs) Thanks! Definitely good to know, lol. So this would mean I could in theory have a bish by Ents, and keep HW by Neks. Bish would limit dmg around ents, while HW will hit Bish target(s) plus his own up to max 3?
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Post by Prayerz on Aug 22, 2014 22:40:34 GMT
High wiz will hit 3 max (unless using blizzard, which hits 6 max), yes. So whatever the high wiz targets+whatever the bish has target+an extra if less than 3 targeted when using eq.
The bishop will only hit enemies in the vicinity.
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Post by Jeancarlo on Aug 22, 2014 22:54:13 GMT
Thanks! That's an interesting aspect to AoE lol
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Post by Almas on Aug 23, 2014 2:44:42 GMT
Meh, voila why are you so elusive? I still don't have one lol. Hope raid is here to stay. Or will they remove it? Lol Prayerz, you didn't have to say we died. Hahaha. Anyway, is it just me or does nemesis really sometimes spawn mobs? I happen to notice this cause back then when I farm mats for people. Bug? Oh guys, you should try Light Rod too. Since I can't get my hands on Princely 2S and I got Light Rod as gift, I tried to compare it with my Resty/Beelzetor 183. Light Rod 168 NS deals same damage as Resty Rod with Beelzetor. Lol. Awesome Rod, love it. XD Jeancarlo I level at High Ents, I usually invite HW to kill Neknott. Fast exp. Plus they help damage ents with their EQ. It's fast exp and good money. Ori, HP20,chance for DCS and trash drops.
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