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Post by _Liu_ n Krogerk on Sept 27, 2020 16:43:47 GMT
And what changes would they make? I think there should be changes made on a few classes, like necromancer could use some new skills that rely on pt so they can be accepted more or summoner getting a rebuild or something. I wanna hear your thoughts
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Post by Undyne on Sept 27, 2020 17:19:34 GMT
Personally, Hw and Summoner are the only classes I see needing a change.
Hw just kinda sucks now, it needs better options for damage on Light/Dark/Neutral and higher dmg on 4 elements.
Summoner just needs to flat out be fixed. It literally cannot function as a dps class in a pt. Not being able to generate Leadership% when you/your pets aren't being targeted is a massive oversight on Asobimo's part. They would realistically be a top dps class otherwise.
Necro imo is fine as is really. I'd like a small Spellburst% Boost, but can't expect that really. Dead's Voice+Respectable dps and great aggro control imo is more than enough to justify a pt slot.
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Post by senoragi on Sept 27, 2020 17:49:40 GMT
And what changes would they make? I think there should be changes made on a few classes, like necromancer could use some new skills that rely on pt so they can be accepted more or summoner getting a rebuild or something. I wanna hear your thoughts Undyne already said, but the ''High'' Wizard definitely needs it. the class has a very outdated skill kit, the largest Recast debuff in the world of iruna (60sec Recast) which can make the whole PT hostage to this skill, high cast time, has no support buff or good survival as enchanter and necromancer, it is dependent on enemies with earth fire wind or water etc. the class is not good even to increase your own level, because the three best enemies are light neutral or dark. lmao. it's no surprise to see a hw lv 409 lvling on baum warrior. :v Playing as ''High'' wizard in 2020 should be considered a crime, Lmao. |
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Post by Done~with~forums on Sept 27, 2020 18:03:03 GMT
I would like servant aoe to have x7 matk and x5 atk so it could be more then just a tank in today's meta
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Post by Nobody (Retired for now) on Sept 27, 2020 18:37:01 GMT
I'd completely vote for Summoner.
As how it is now, with our lack of skills and questionable mechanics, is basically the worst Job for now.
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Post by ShaDH04 on Sept 27, 2020 19:37:39 GMT
Yes, Enchanter is too strong and Hw + Summoner are too weak. If I had to nerf Ench I'd either rework Stone Skin (make it based on INT instead of MaxHP or something) or make it so they get less Auto% from Draw and Qadal(?)(The other skill that gives them auto% boost), or have both changes implemented. High Wizard has a lot of issues but the main ones I would point out is low survivability (400+ VIT will barely get you at 30k+ HP, thats just unacceptable), Horrendous Cast Time, and Multicast (If you try to mitigate the horrendous Cast Time, your dps is lessen. They already have nothing going for them, why make it worse with this skill?). Summoner just needs its 300-340 skills already, Leadership needs to be reworked so that its easier to gain and keep %, and make their summons more tanky, because even Knight Colon goes down like a PIE. Personal changes I would want is to remove the MP drain from all Clones, and give Servant's Broom Sweep more dmg (At least make it so it can do 100k+ even against the same element.) Other than that I dont think there are any problems I have with the balance of Iruna.
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Post by J.D.X. on Sept 27, 2020 21:46:48 GMT
No more MP drain from cloness!!
I miss auto nins...
Would it be considered broken if phantom flame would be activated with desperate move?
PF cool time is too damn long...
Buff Holy Spike...for a 340 skill, it's really underwhelming...
Bigger area for Nemesis, pls?
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Post by Undyne on Sept 28, 2020 1:31:17 GMT
No more MP drain from cloness!! I miss auto nins... Would it be considered broken if phantom flame would be activated with desperate move? PF cool time is too damn long... Buff Holy Spike...for a 340 skill, it's really underwhelming... Bigger area for Nemesis, pls? Holy Spike is pretty high damage for what it is lol... also main function is the move speed reduction to enemies. I honestly wouldn't consider PF broken if clones didn't consume MP, I'd consider magic Ninja broken then lol... PF only has clones for a couple seconds at a time, Magic ninja has them 24/7. And the drain is based on MaxMp so Int vs no Int isnt much of a difference overall. |
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Dragsbro
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I'm kind of a necromancer, as in playing with SK is just toying with dead stuff at this point
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Post by Dragsbro on Sept 28, 2020 8:43:02 GMT
ShaDH04 J.D.X. Undyne On the other hand, we can just use a cracked mage ore by logging session and MP drain just dies ._. Though IMO i'd try to make the mp drain more impactful on Magic than Melee nins if we were to change it, like making it based on INT rather than MPs
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Post by J.D.X. on Sept 28, 2020 8:45:01 GMT
No more MP drain from cloness!! I miss auto nins... Would it be considered broken if phantom flame would be activated with desperate move? PF cool time is too damn long... Buff Holy Spike...for a 340 skill, it's really underwhelming... Bigger area for Nemesis, pls? Holy Spike is pretty high damage for what it is lol... also main function is the move speed reduction to enemies. I honestly wouldn't consider PF broken if clones didn't consume MP, I'd consider magic Ninja broken then lol... PF only has clones for a couple seconds at a time, Magic ninja has them 24/7. And the drain is based on MaxMp so Int vs no Int isnt much of a difference overall. It lowers speed? O.o I didn't even notice that... And I mean...it's still kinda meh for a 340 skill...should at least do more dmg then Nemesis... I don't mean broken with clones, I mean when using desperate move when under 10% HP... Would that be kinda broken? Since you could re use PF far faster. |
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Post by Pixie on Sept 28, 2020 9:19:41 GMT
i vote they make servant strongest class to shun the non believers \○□○'/
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Post by wafu on Sept 28, 2020 11:47:06 GMT
i want domination to be buffed and maybe earthshaker too I really want to use domination. Maybe they can make it spammable then make it just 1 clone instead of 3. a 500k domination not sb is enuf for me xD
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Post by ShaDH04 on Sept 28, 2020 13:49:04 GMT
No more MP drain from cloness!! I miss auto nins... Would it be considered broken if phantom flame would be activated with desperate move? PF cool time is too damn long... Buff Holy Spike...for a 340 skill, it's really underwhelming... Bigger area for Nemesis, pls? I dont think PF activating with desperate move would be broken, but I don't think it's a necessary change. I think PF sd gets lowered by DEX (correct me if I'm wrong), so Magic Ninjas dont have a problem casting PF |
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Dragsbro
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I'm kind of a necromancer, as in playing with SK is just toying with dead stuff at this point
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Post by Dragsbro on Sept 28, 2020 15:43:14 GMT
No more MP drain from cloness!! I miss auto nins... Would it be considered broken if phantom flame would be activated with desperate move? PF cool time is too damn long... Buff Holy Spike...for a 340 skill, it's really underwhelming... Bigger area for Nemesis, pls? I dont think PF activating with desperate move would be broken, but I don't think it's a necessary change. I think PF sd gets lowered by DEX (correct me if I'm wrong), so Magic Ninjas dont have a problem casting PF i thought it was INT? Anyway it's 3 seconds fixed :/ |
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Post by J.D.X. on Sept 28, 2020 22:06:04 GMT
No more MP drain from cloness!! I miss auto nins... Would it be considered broken if phantom flame would be activated with desperate move? PF cool time is too damn long... Buff Holy Spike...for a 340 skill, it's really underwhelming... Bigger area for Nemesis, pls? I dont think PF activating with desperate move would be broken, but I don't think it's a necessary change. I think PF sd gets lowered by DEX (correct me if I'm wrong), so Magic Ninjas dont have a problem casting PF The thing is, with +hp and -hp, it's really easy to spam Desperate. You could easy maintain clones while spamming PF... Plus with the mp reg from it...things would be way more easier. |
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