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Post by Done~with~forums on Aug 14, 2020 11:48:34 GMT
Why does % to all include neutral but All elements dose not include neutral
Sauroll/lll =3% neutral
Wild ring = 10% neutral
Yggdrasil = 0% neutral
Mystic arrow = 0% neutral
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Post by °Malice° on Aug 14, 2020 12:36:02 GMT
I think neutral in iruna considered as non-elemental which mean they not belong to elemental type so thats y when it says "all elements" neutral is not included.
From what i've experienced, any boss with "none" element treated as neutral.
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Post by Done~with~forums on Aug 14, 2020 13:03:41 GMT
For some reason I can't upload an img but
Area rain
12377 to hound
15709 to poke
15728 to baum
I used
Yggdrasil and Mystic arrow im confused
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Post by sstraycat on Aug 14, 2020 14:14:25 GMT
Mystic Arrow gives no bonus if the target is neutral. You're better off with AA or thimble in that case.
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Post by Done~with~forums on Aug 14, 2020 14:20:11 GMT
Mystic Arrow gives no bonus if the target is neutral. You're better off with AA or thimble in that case. cough |
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Post by Owe on Aug 14, 2020 14:44:10 GMT
So the devils in the details with this one. Wild ring and Sauro say melee to all elements +% whereas ygg and mystic arrow add all elements. There is no neutral element in game like there is fire, water, earth, wind etc.
look up eventail vs mirror weapon to see what I mean.
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Post by Done~with~forums on Aug 14, 2020 15:03:58 GMT
When I use sharp eye on a neutral element it says blank is neutral element not this doesn't not have a element i wana know the logic behind this
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Post by Done~with~forums on Aug 14, 2020 15:06:29 GMT
Also if you look at towers in library it shows 7
◇The emptiness of forgetfulness
If Neutral is not an element why is it included in in % to all element
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Post by Done~with~forums on Aug 14, 2020 15:15:16 GMT
The only difference is that neutral has no weakness other then itself but if its nothing then why can nothing do dmg to nothing
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Post by Owe on Aug 14, 2020 15:22:26 GMT
So neutral is an element that a mob can be, just like if it were light, dark or anything else.
The reason you’re experiencing a dmg drop is because an equip can’t be a neutral element (no explanation as to why, it’s just not in the game mechanics) therefore “all element” on an equip can’t include neutral element and dmg will not increase
The reason that you’re experiencing an increase in damage with an equip like wild ring, is because it isn’t the element mechanic, it is another form of dmg multiplier. Remember the element mechanic is strong against one element, weak against another (i.e. a fire element does more dmg against earth and less against another).
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Post by Done~with~forums on Aug 14, 2020 15:30:01 GMT
So neutral is an element that a mob can be, just like if it were light, dark or anything else. The reason you’re experiencing a dmg drop is because an equip can’t be a neutral element (no explanation as to why, it’s just not in the game mechanics) therefore “all element” on an equip can’t include neutral element and dmg will not increase The reason that you’re experiencing an increase in damage with an equip like wild ring, is because it isn’t the element mechanic, it is another form of dmg multiplier. Remember the element mechanic is strong against one element, weak against another (i.e. a fire element does more dmg against earth and less against another). basically this is a "yes but actually no" and could be considered a bug |
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Post by Owe on Aug 14, 2020 15:35:46 GMT
basically this is a "yes but actually no" and could be considered a bug basically. I agree that something like Yggdrasil bow should definitely include a neutral element multiplier, because all elements doesn’t have the drawbacks of a single element equip and I hope the devs fix it. |
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Post by konbanwa on Aug 14, 2020 22:25:54 GMT
Also if you look at towers in library it shows 7 ◇The emptiness of forgetfulness If Neutral is not an element why is it included in in % to all element is the 7th door is behind the guy? xp |
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Post by konbanwa on Aug 14, 2020 22:42:13 GMT
i feel this is how the devs maybe balance stuff. not all "all elements" lack neutral, and those that have neutral% inlcuded has pretty big negatives. so this might be equip specific or devs choices, deff not a bug.
also sau2/3 only gives 3% which is not alot and maybe thats why they added it.
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Post by Done~with~forums on Aug 15, 2020 0:32:15 GMT
i feel this is how the devs maybe balance stuff. not all "all elements" lack neutral, and those that have neutral% inlcuded has pretty big negatives. so this might be equip specific or devs choices, deff not a bug. also sau2/3 only gives 3% which is not alot and maybe thats why they added it. Wild ring Tells Butterfly fan Skr Etc etc they have high amounts of element dmg |
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