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Post by frums2929 on Jun 21, 2020 11:43:50 GMT
95% abs/magic evasion is achieveable in the future by using this set
acrobat ring abs/magic evasion +30%
blancheur last up abs/magic evasion +15%
shelk abs/magic evasion +5%
cerbera abs/magic evasion +5%
the downside of this build is it have -40% melee/magic resistance from acrobat ring and less skill delay because it can't get any benefit by investing at dex stat
the stat will be str agi crt vit (normal claw) or str crt vit special claw
but i dont know if blancheur last up will be avaiable in english version or only exclusive for japan version
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Post by Aza on Jun 21, 2020 12:44:24 GMT
95% abs/magic evasion is achieveable in the future by using this set acrobat ring abs/magic evasion +30% blancheur last up abs/magic evasion +15% shelk abs/magic evasion +5% cerbera abs/magic evasion +5% the downside of this build is it have -40% melee/magic resistance from acrobat ring and less skill delay because it can't get any benefit by investing at dex stat the stat will be str agi crt vit (normal claw) or str crt vit special claw but i dont know if blancheur last up will be avaiable in english version or only exclusive for japan version Even without Acrobat Ring and Blancheur, we already capable of reaching 95% Abs./Magic evasion, but yea blancheur and acrobat ring is a nice addition to the game. Skill delay issue is fixed by using Union Sam. Tyrant delay be gone. Instead of Acrobat Ring, I'm thinking of using Mirror Claw AG series or Mirror Mail AG, Spikeleon Al, 8 Green line with 100 Glb and Evasion 2-5 abi. With this the spec can be a Sbs. The downside is limited claw/arm choice, but if I use Riddle Hatter xtal the claw/arm will be more flexible. Either way, the damage will be bad. Well I'm tanking anyway. The other al/relic/eq will be hate rise+%, skill/item delay. |
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Post by ≧▽≦Pipopapo on Jun 21, 2020 14:38:16 GMT
I heared 1 Union Sam is 60 Sauro II
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Post by Aza on Jun 21, 2020 16:46:12 GMT
I heared 1 Union Sam is 60 Sauro II Yes let's wait for next year event o.o |
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Post by Owe on Jun 21, 2020 20:40:12 GMT
In my opinion a mix of evasion and resistance is better than either alone especially with the buffs we have. The reason why is 2 fold:
1) you can use better equips overall rather than a select few to achieve a specific goal. For example imo breezy>Blancheur because of the raw atk you gain from breezy in addition to the defensive stats.
2) the way that evasion and res compounds on one another.
Let’s do a thought experiment. Imagine we have 3 sets; a evasion set with 95% absolute eva, a res set with 95% res, and a hybrid set with 60% res and 60% abs eva. Each set has enough stat and equip DEF where you would take 1,000 damage if hit. Out of 100 hits this is how each set would perform.
The evasion set would be hit 5 times (hopefully) for 1000 damage resulting in 5000 damage taken
The res set would be hit 100 times for 50 damage resulting in 5000 damage taken
The hybrid set would be hit 40 times for 600 damage resulting in 24000 damage.
Now I know it seems weird to put these numbers up because it makes the hybrid set seem worst than the other sets, but the hybrid set is MUCH more achievable. BOO(Iniliba) with vatendeth, shelk and cerbera and max green lines will get you to the hybrid set. I know acrobat ring helps out in this regard, but it also really hurts if you are hit.
Let’s another experiment. Same rules as before but this time let’s fill out the equips a bit with mirror claws, boo(Iniliba), breezy scarf, irai, vatendeth, shelk and cerbera als with max green lines. so that’s 70% eva and 80% res.
This set would be hit 30 times for 200 damage resulting in 6000 damage.
Yes it’s higher damage taken, but it’s a better rounded set with open slots for abilities like eva (Lv 1-5 on equip would increase eva% to 85% and lower total damage out of 100 hits to 3000 total damage). Also there’s open crysta slots for more attack power (a tank that can’t keep hate is pretty useless) as well as an al slot to finish up your skill delay requirements.
I don’t think that this set is “optimal”, but both 80% res and eva is likely the best combination to become a “god tier” evasion class.
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Post by frums2929 on Jun 21, 2020 22:00:30 GMT
95% abs/magic evasion is achieveable in the future by using this set acrobat ring abs/magic evasion +30% blancheur last up abs/magic evasion +15% shelk abs/magic evasion +5% cerbera abs/magic evasion +5% the downside of this build is it have -40% melee/magic resistance from acrobat ring and less skill delay because it can't get any benefit by investing at dex stat the stat will be str agi crt vit (normal claw) or str crt vit special claw but i dont know if blancheur last up will be avaiable in english version or only exclusive for japan version Even without Acrobat Ring and Blancheur, we already capable of reaching 95% Abs./Magic evasion, but yea blancheur and acrobat ring is a nice addition to the game. Skill delay issue is fixed by using Union Sam. Tyrant delay be gone. Instead of Acrobat Ring, I'm thinking of using Mirror Claw AG series or Mirror Mail AG, Spikeleon Al, 8 Green line with 100 Glb and Evasion 2-5 abi. With this the spec can be a Sbs. The downside is limited claw/arm choice, but if I use Riddle Hatter xtal the claw/arm will be more flexible. Either way, the damage will be bad. Well I'm tanking anyway. The other al/relic/eq will be hate rise+%, skill/item delay. never think about it, ill try this first |
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Post by frums2929 on Jun 21, 2020 22:18:46 GMT
In my opinion a mix of evasion and resistance is better than either alone especially with the buffs we have. The reason why is 2 fold: 1) you can use better equips overall rather than a select few to achieve a specific goal. For example imo breezy>Blancheur because of the raw atk you gain from breezy in addition to the defensive stats. 2) the way that evasion and res compounds on one another. Let’s do a thought experiment. Imagine we have 3 sets; a evasion set with 95% absolute eva, a res set with 95% res, and a hybrid set with 60% res and 60% abs eva. Each set has enough stat and equip DEF where you would take 1,000 damage if hit. Out of 100 hits this is how each set would perform. The evasion set would be hit 5 times (hopefully) for 1000 damage resulting in 5000 damage taken The res set would be hit 100 times for 50 damage resulting in 5000 damage taken The hybrid set would be hit 40 times for 600 damage resulting in 24000 damage. Now I know it seems weird to put these numbers up because it makes the hybrid set seem worst than the other sets, but the hybrid set is MUCH more achievable. BOO(Iniliba) with vatendeth, shelk and cerbera and max green lines will get you to the hybrid set. I know acrobat ring helps out in this regard, but it also really hurts if you are hit. Let’s another experiment. Same rules as before but this time let’s fill out the equips a bit with mirror claws, boo(Iniliba), breezy scarf, irai, vatendeth, shelk and cerbera als with max green lines. so that’s 70% eva and 80% res. This set would be hit 30 times for 200 damage resulting in 6000 damage. Yes it’s higher damage taken, but it’s a better rounded set with open slots for abilities like eva (Lv 1-5 on equip would increase eva% to 85% and lower total damage out of 100 hits to 3000 total damage). Also there’s open crysta slots for more attack power (a tank that can’t keep hate is pretty useless) as well as an al slot to finish up your skill delay requirements. I don’t think that this set is “optimal”, but both 80% res and eva is likely the best combination to become a “god tier” evasion class. lets breakdown this example Let’s another experiment. Same rules as before but this time let’s fill out the equips a bit with mirror claws, boo(Iniliba), breezy scarf, irai, vatendeth, shelk and cerbera als with max green lines. so that’s 70% eva and 80% res. This set would be hit 30 times for 200 damage resulting in 6000 damage. mirror claw (i dont know which version of mirror claw) boo iniliba (23% melee and magic resist) breezy scarf (5% melee and magic resist) shelk 5% abs/magic eva cerbera 5% abs/magic eva vatendet 10% melee and magic resist irai 10% melee resist leviam 10% magic resist total resistance is 48%, and total of abs and magic evasion is 50%, thats not 80% resist and 70% magic/abs eva, 35% resistance from the passive only when use a sword, and 40% abs/magic evasion only when use a claw, if we get both eva and resist when equipping a claw then bk is too broken as a tank class correct me if i wrong, thanks |
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Post by callmebob on Jun 21, 2020 23:29:16 GMT
If you don't care about your damage at all:
Mirror Claw SR <>Wizard
Licht lu <>Iniliba
Blancheur lu <>Riddle Hatter
SBS <>Wizard <>Wizard
Shelk g
Vatendeth g
Cerbera g
Adventurer g
Spikeleon g
100gr
Eva 2-5 abi
Qc abi
Guard skill
Total
Mel res = 74% (sr optional)
Mag res = 98% (95%)
Abs eva = 95%
Mag eva = 95%
Rc = 10%
Sd = - 1.8
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Post by frums2929 on Jun 22, 2020 0:47:28 GMT
If you don't care about your damage at all: Mirror Claw SR <>Wizard Licht lu <>Iniliba Blancheur lu <>Riddle Hatter SBS <>Wizard <>Wizard Shelk g Vatendeth g Cerbera g Adventurer g Spikeleon g 100gr Eva 2-5 abi Qc abi Guard skill Total Mel res = 74% (sr optional) Mag res = 98% (95%) Abs eva = 95% Mag eva = 95% Rc = 10% Sd = - 1.8 uwu, thanks xD, yes i dont care about damage, i need to tank |
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Post by callmebob on Jun 22, 2020 2:42:22 GMT
If you don't care about your damage at all: Mirror Claw SR <>Wizard Licht lu <>Iniliba Blancheur lu <>Riddle Hatter SBS <>Wizard <>Wizard Shelk g Vatendeth g Cerbera g Adventurer g Spikeleon g 100gr Eva 2-5 abi Qc abi Guard skill Total Mel res = 74% (sr optional) Mag res = 98% (95%) Abs eva = 95% Mag eva = 95% Rc = 10% Sd = - 1.8 uwu, thanks xD, yes i dont care about damage, i need to tank If Blancheur lu isn't out yet, Snowflower Ribbons is good too. I wish I could sell mine, but it's trade x |
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Post by Owe on Jun 22, 2020 3:09:38 GMT
lets breakdown this example Let’s another experiment. Same rules as before but this time let’s fill out the equips a bit with mirror claws, boo(Iniliba), breezy scarf, irai, vatendeth, shelk and cerbera als with max green lines. so that’s 70% eva and 80% res. This set would be hit 30 times for 200 damage resulting in 6000 damage. mirror claw (i dont know which version of mirror claw) boo iniliba (23% melee and magic resist) breezy scarf (5% melee and magic resist) shelk 5% abs/magic eva cerbera 5% abs/magic eva vatendet 10% melee and magic resist irai 10% melee resist leviam 10% magic resist total resistance is 48%, and total of abs and magic evasion is 50%, thats not 80% resist and 70% magic/abs eva, 35% resistance from the passive only when use a sword, and 40% abs/magic evasion only when use a claw, if we get both eva and resist when equipping a claw then bk is too broken as a tank class correct me if i wrong, thanks yes I did a bit of rounding, but 100 GR with 8 green lines will give you 300 raw eva and 10% abs/magic eva. Mirror claw ()AG gives another 10% which brings the total from 50% to 70%. And bk is a knight after all  with guard 2 you get 30% melee res. The main thing you’re “scared” about is magic dmg with a good set up (actually, with this set if you add wizard, you do reach cap magic res...) P.S. remember too your normal eva is a thing. So you’re actually going to have a higher evasion rate for normal attacks than whatever your absolute evasion is. Just a thought. |
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Post by chya on Jan 4, 2021 10:27:24 GMT
wouldn't you guys to think to using body such as ira and ultimi? it's really worth to use. ira is really good at boss with huge magic damage (veleno, roy) since ira has auto+12% (for more magic parry proc). so magic damage input will almost no effect like 8k since my hp is 70k.
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Post by ≧▽≦Pipopapo on Jan 4, 2021 17:27:16 GMT
wouldn't you guys to think to using body such as ira and ultimi? it's really worth to use. ira is really good at boss with huge magic damage (veleno, roy) since ira has auto+12% (for more magic parry proc). so magic damage input will almost no effect like 8k since my hp is 70k. Magic Parry Has Been Nerf > 5 Sec Cooldown , Ira got -Melee Res Just Mx Sr It And GitGud |
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Post by chya on Jan 5, 2021 3:20:06 GMT
wouldn't you guys to think to using body such as ira and ultimi? it's really worth to use. ira is really good at boss with huge magic damage (veleno, roy) since ira has auto+12% (for more magic parry proc). so magic damage input will almost no effect like 8k since my hp is 70k. Magic Parry Has Been Nerf > 5 Sec Cooldown , Ira got -Melee Res Just Mx Sr It And GitGud yes, magic parry has cooldown but still has chance to trigger. i'm saying ira good bcuz mine has max sr lol xD |
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with guard 2 you get 30% melee res. The main thing you’re “scared” about is magic dmg with a good set up (actually, with this set if you add wizard, you do reach cap magic res...)