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Post by arslan on Jul 16, 2018 13:08:40 GMT
Yin and Yang only activates PF once you have the skill Same goes for astrological technique passive PF is passive now? and activated by Yin/Yang is that right? Also does it erase clones when you PF DOC? Like the former PF? still active. you can use it like before (but delay sucks) or activate with yin yang. and no it doesn't erase clones.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2018 14:02:13 GMT
PF is passive now? and activated by Yin/Yang is that right? Also does it erase clones when you PF DOC? Like the former PF? still active. you can use it like before (but delay sucks) or activate with yin yang. and no it doesn't erase clones. Thank you very much for that info ^^
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2018 14:40:16 GMT
such informative guide really tempts me to try ninja, especially now it seems like a new class in the game lol. when u say level as knight.. do u mean beast knight? is vampire blow a knight's skill? is it viable to solo mq until lv140 as a knight/beast knight? what is ur recommended budget gear-set for newb ninja? thx Glad you found it informative! Guide is still undergoing changes in hopes of providing readers with more info with easier explanations. Check back once in a while I mean as a knight xD literally, just a knight, although going app bk is better once you hit 120. Beast slash does better damage and has less mpc compared to hard hit, but really, your lifeline here is vampire blow — xtal or pet skill. It does a bit lower damage than hard hit 3, but heals you for 1/3 the damage — offense and defense in one. The mpc costs twice as much as beast slash tho, so you'd need quite a lot of mp pots. Unfortunately, I started my ninja journey already equipped to spam 6 clones. I won't be able to recommend anything to real newbies based on experience, but if you still want my recommendation anyway, going for a full damage set is the way to go — along with a -100% cast time set (with some sd; still confirming how much exactly) for raiton. Once you get doc, you'd kill mq bosses in just a few hits (more or less 20 docs) until you unlock apos. I'll put more effort on this topic once my irl schedule is a bit more relaxed. If you could, please share your experiences and I'll make sure to credit you for any useful contribution .
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2018 22:14:55 GMT
Updated. Edited some item comments, and added libersona and some minor melee +% to element xtals.
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Post by imtisan on Jul 18, 2018 3:51:38 GMT
Guys leaving aside spec claw as the highest possible DMG..I was wondering if throw with could surpass normal bow since throw gets atk from passive awell as int-str-dex?
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Post by wonderer on Jul 18, 2018 7:14:38 GMT
Since CRT is main stats for DoC, Str int dex build won't be good. And 90 atk from throw mastery lvl 2 passive skill is too low to go against special claw.
Against normal bow, with build str int crt throwing weapon would do same damage. But normal bow has better specs like AAS and better add gear too like monty beret. So normal bow would do more damage than throwing weapon.
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Post by lopa on Jul 18, 2018 16:48:59 GMT
Cant it be possible to make it STR = CRT > 256 AGI > DEX > 100 RD 100 GR ? i think that could work just fine and its what im going with Mephisto <>Ganei Ultimi reup <>Magonza (dorry pricey af) Barbarotita <>Vida (maybe change to monty later) Killer seed ns I didnt finish making it but i think it will work just fine with enough eva to survive a few hits and really good damage Just a suggestion
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Post by NightBreeze on Jul 18, 2018 17:12:33 GMT
Cant it be possible to make it STR = CRT > 256 AGI > DEX > 100 RD 100 GR ? i think that could work just fine and its what im going with Mephisto <>Ganei Ultimi reup <>Magonza (dorry pricey af) Barbarotita <>Vida (maybe change to monty later) Killer seed ns I didnt finish making it but i think it will work just fine with enough eva to survive a few hits and really good damage Just a suggestion With just 256 AGI you'll get hit all the time. And I don't know what you need DEX for. I'd max STR, CRT and AGI and the rest in Green and Red.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2018 18:08:16 GMT
Cant it be possible to make it STR = CRT > 256 AGI > DEX > 100 RD 100 GR ? i think that could work just fine and its what im going with Mephisto <>Ganei Ultimi reup <>Magonza (dorry pricey af) Barbarotita <>Vida (maybe change to monty later) Killer seed ns I didnt finish making it but i think it will work just fine with enough eva to survive a few hits and really good damage Just a suggestion As stated in the guide, stopping at 256 agi is only for raising the evasion rate cap to 95% (and getting 255 more eva, obviously). Like NightBreeze said, it is not enough, and you still need to supplement it with eva+% gears and items if you want to reach good (1k+) eva, tho it is preferred to get a safe amount of 1.2k. When using a spec claw such as mephisto, dex, by itself, only provides -sd (except doc), cspd and some matk. Spec claws gain atk from str mostly (4) and crt (1). The reason for my inclusion of a dex build is if you want to make use of monty, which should provide higher damage if your dex is high enough. That said, if you were to go on with your plan, at lv370 with apos lv172, you can get 428 str, 428 crt, 100 gr, 100 rd, and 147 dex. That, sadly, isn't enough for monty to be useful, and even if it is, you'd only deal a little bit higher than no-dex builds.
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Post by Nobody (Retired for now) on Jul 19, 2018 1:30:43 GMT
What about Str-Int-Crt using Throwing? It would get a bonus from Shuriken Mastery
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Post by wonderer on Jul 19, 2018 2:07:59 GMT
Cant it be possible to make it STR = CRT > 256 AGI > DEX > 100 RD 100 GR ? i think that could work just fine and its what im going with Mephisto <>Ganei Ultimi reup <>Magonza (dorry pricey af) Barbarotita <>Vida (maybe change to monty later) Killer seed ns I didnt finish making it but i think it will work just fine with enough eva to survive a few hits and really good damage Just a suggestion As stated in the guide, stopping at 256 agi is only for raising the evasion rate cap to 95% (and getting 255 more eva, obviously). Like NightBreeze said, it is not enough, and you still need to supplement it with eva+% gears and items if you want to reach good (1k+) eva, tho it is preferred to get a safe amount of 1.2k. When using a spec claw such as mephisto, dex, by itself, only provides -sd (except doc), cspd and some matk. Spec claws gain atk from str mostly (4) and crt (1). The reason for my inclusion of a dex build is if you want to make use of monty, which should provide higher damage if your dex is high enough. That said, if you were to go on with your plan, at lv370 with apos lv172, you can get 428 str, 428 crt, 100 gr, 100 rd, and 147 dex. That, sadly, isn't enough for monty to be useful, and even if it is, you'd only deal a little bit higher than no-dex builds. With such low dex ogre shield will completely out damage monty beret.
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Post by wonderer on Jul 19, 2018 2:10:33 GMT
What about Str-Int-Crt using Throwing? It would get a bonus from Shuriken Mastery +90 atk bonus but yet normal bow will out damage it. But if you yet want to use throwing weapon then there is no problem at all, damage will be good enough but not so high.
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Dragsbro
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Post by Dragsbro on Jul 19, 2018 6:52:12 GMT
What about Str-Int-Crt using Throwing? It would get a bonus from Shuriken Mastery +90 atk bonus but yet normal bow will out damage it. But if you yet want to use throwing weapon then there is no problem at all, damage will be good enough but not so high. It can still be pretty high, i mean it would be a minimal atk difference compared to normal bow
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Post by Done~with~forums on Jul 30, 2018 2:55:45 GMT
+90 atk bonus but yet normal bow will out damage it. But if you yet want to use throwing weapon then there is no problem at all, damage will be good enough but not so high. It can still be pretty high, i mean it would be a minimal atk difference compared to normal bow my doc throw ninja is useing kage is there a better atk% one? Idc for elemental i have wild ring
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Post by Pixie on Jul 30, 2018 3:44:51 GMT
It can still be pretty high, i mean it would be a minimal atk difference compared to normal bow my doc throw ninja is useing kage is there a better atk% one? Idc for elemental i have wild ring Wouldnt the mirror series throws outdamage it cuz you dont get the 17% crit dmg right? but mirror weps have elementals also ?
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