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Post by Kyndig on Jul 9, 2018 18:10:25 GMT
im 365 str 401 agi 352 crit claw pf doc ninja though i have sk as well, my max with sk on last clone is 110-120k. my al is rufaty, cerbera, gatekeeper, shelk, zazel
what do i do now? do i reset with free reset event to throwing weapon and sk doc amd pf, what stuff will i need to be more effective on upcoming bosses? Im at grapagos fight in mq ep 4 so anything past that ill need advice on.
Tbh i dont know how to outfit a ninja for throwing and stuff let alone know which stats and guide to follow for it, so any advice would be helpful.
p.s. Regarding my al setup is ouvel still good with balance patch with its minus hp and mp? What should i replace with it if anything?
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Post by NightBreeze on Jul 9, 2018 18:29:25 GMT
If you enjoy your current playstyle, you can remain a claw doc spam type. If you got good evasion 3 clones should still provide good defense. Just use desperate move every 10 sec and MP shouldn't be a problem either. Ouvel is still an awesome AL crysta.
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Post by Kyndig on Jul 9, 2018 18:39:56 GMT
Nightbreeze thanks , regarding ouvel and my current al setup what is best to replace with ouvel?
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Post by Dragsbro on Jul 9, 2018 18:49:21 GMT
Nightbreeze thanks , regarding ouvel and my current al setup what is best to replace with ouvel? definitely rufaty i'd say? also, yin gives 10% avd so if you already have a good evasion, you're going to have an even better one
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Post by Kyndig on Jul 9, 2018 19:01:46 GMT
Hmm i got rufaty to increase def and item recovery and ailment stuff, ill give it a shot though.
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Dragsbro
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Post by Dragsbro on Jul 9, 2018 19:17:11 GMT
Hmm i got rufaty to increase def and item recovery and ailment stuff, ill give it a shot though. increasing def as ninja is like...useless... especially since it's def and not resistance x.x
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Post by Makina Yuki on Jul 9, 2018 20:00:43 GMT
So far in my experience in test server, nail ninja build is not dead at all. I can do 500k doc damage without pf as nail ninja build in test server, probably little bit lower with 1s equip. But hey, they still beat sk in term of dps o3o
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Dragsbro
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Post by Dragsbro on Jul 9, 2018 20:15:49 GMT
So far in my experience in test server, nail ninja build is not dead at all. I can do 500k doc damage without pf as nail ninja build in test server, probably little bit lower with 1s equip. But hey, they still beat sk in term of dps o3o Tbh i think all ninja type have similar or comparable dps Claw: 500k sec Magic: 1m/2sec = 500k sec Sk: 350+700+1000k per 4 sec = 500k/sec
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Post by Kyndig on Jul 9, 2018 21:26:47 GMT
Dragsbro, i think i got rufaty back when some people in balance patch thread said ninjas will need vit or def since evasion and clones were not reliable and someone said that they think asobimo as making ninjas more vulnerable to status ailments or debuffs. I might put some vit in my ninja and go ouvel though. Just hope the crit damage nerf doesnt hurt my 3 characters too much else ill have to figure out how to get even more damage with crit damage nerf Makina yuki 500k doc without pf? Nice, think my max doc with claws was 250 k though i hit 380k doc damage without pf one time when in a party with an assassin i think they had given me darkness and agility buffs and doc went critical
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Post by Maxwello on Jul 9, 2018 21:31:56 GMT
Regarding ninja dps.. Wasn't claw ninja like 3 times slower than others in that hp tank luna kill? And wasn't that when WITH interfike?
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Post by Dragsbro on Jul 9, 2018 21:35:11 GMT
Kyndig VIT for claw ninja is unnecessary ._. and with bosses coming, just a little AL won't protect your from anything, you'd just rather use vaccines >.< Maxwello since you don't need much delay to spam doc claw ninj can do a decent job at it, and 500k/sec is far from bad xD
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Post by Makina Yuki on Jul 9, 2018 21:50:41 GMT
Regarding ninja dps.. Wasn't claw ninja like 3 times slower than others in that hp tank luna kill? And wasn't that when WITH interfike? If you auto attack, yea their dps are low. But if you do doc spam, claw ninja dps are awesome xD. Even AGI CRT ninja can do high dps via doc spam without pf.
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Post by Makina Yuki on Jul 9, 2018 21:53:09 GMT
Kyndig now desperate move will heal mp for 10 sec plus clone will not drain mp during this buff, so I dont think clone will be not realible since they still negate damage NOT by chance.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2018 21:54:27 GMT
If you have a tank (or are confident with your eva), yin → yin → doc → repeat or pf → doc → repeat does 733k dps or 2.2m/3sec, provided your doc damage is 550k (was able to achieve this in the test server).
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Post by Maxwello on Jul 9, 2018 22:00:31 GMT
Regarding ninja dps.. Wasn't claw ninja like 3 times slower than others in that hp tank luna kill? And wasn't that when WITH interfike? If you auto attack, yea their dps are low. But if you do doc spam, claw ninja dps are awesome xD. Even AGI CRT ninja can do high dps via doc spam without pf. Ah OK well that's cool then. Yeh with 9 clone doc every 6 secs or so the auto atk (with 2 additional atk on average) it was kinda meh as to whether to bother but ye with 3 clone and much higher multiplier it must be cool. Thanks
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