Blerfy
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Post by Blerfy on Mar 27, 2018 0:15:33 GMT
thats what the atk/matk buff I mentioned was
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Jophes
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Post by Jophes on Mar 27, 2018 0:17:26 GMT
I'm not exactly sure how much SD and CSPD increases by, but with equips nowadays, isn't it easy enough to counter that if you're playing support? With a tank like paladin, you won't have to worry too much about AOE damage thanks to devotion so survival is covered for support. You get a MATK boost which means more heals. Plus if you wanna do some damage, you could always opt not to use Soul Connect so you could survive better. Right? im sorry have u played servant? Im a 340+ servant been maining servants since the 1st day it came out .-. All I'm trying to say is that if you have a proper tank in your pt doing its job correctly, you won't have to worry so much about the downsides that come with Soul Connect. For example, from what I understand, Paladins at level 340 will get a skill that give pt members a sort of "safe zone" where dmg taken in that area will be reduced (correct me if I'm wrong those of you who've used this skill in JP servers). Hence, worrying about survival shouldn't be such a big fuss as we make anymore since this rebalancing will hopefully allow ACTUAL TANKS to TANK the bosses instead of a class that isn't suited to tank.
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Post by Blerfy on Mar 27, 2018 0:19:09 GMT
im sorry have u played servant? Im a 340+ servant been maining servants since the 1st day it came out .-. All I'm trying to say is that if you have a proper tank in your pt doing its job correctly, you won't have to worry so much about the downsides that come with Soul Connect. For example, from what I understand, Paladins at level 340 will get a skill that give pt members a sort of "safe zone" where dmg taken in that area will be reduced (correct me if I'm wrong those of you who've used this skill in JP servers). Hence, worrying about survival shouldn't be such a big fuss as we make anymore since this rebalancing will hopefully allow ACTUAL TANKS to TANK the bosses instead of a class that isn't suited to tank. That is correct, in that zone the paladin takes any damage that said pt member would have taken in their place
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Post by blazer on Mar 27, 2018 5:16:34 GMT
All I'm trying to say is that if you have a proper tank in your pt doing its job correctly, you won't have to worry so much about the downsides that come with Soul Connect. For example, from what I understand, Paladins at level 340 will get a skill that give pt members a sort of "safe zone" where dmg taken in that area will be reduced (correct me if I'm wrong those of you who've used this skill in JP servers). Hence, worrying about survival shouldn't be such a big fuss as we make anymore since this rebalancing will hopefully allow ACTUAL TANKS to TANK the bosses instead of a class that isn't suited to tank. That is correct, in that zone the paladin takes any damage that said pt member would have taken in their place He is kinda slow, last time he challenged my paladin saying servant is the best tank and i had to show what paladin is capable x
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Post by yungelita on Mar 27, 2018 5:23:58 GMT
Done~with~forums I think high hp still useful against newest boss. For best example, look cecilia, her deathclaw will dealt instant 30k damage even with resist set, clones, and stone skin active .-. Another example is ignatz. He can hit you frequently, so you will need high hp, resist set, and eva to conter it.
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Post by Makina Yuki on Mar 27, 2018 6:26:38 GMT
yungelita Sorry I dont understand what are you try to say. Did you mean that ench hard to get party? Did you mean that other class better or what? I never say that ench better in all aspect compared to other class. As for party farm, I fine doing party farm even if only my ench role is damager + tank at same time, and I almost never lose hate except from sh. I not only solo play as ench, in fact I have a lot of exeperience doing party farm with my ench. For now, I focused at my ench because I want try gear variation which I can found many for my ench. Next goal is making throat knife magic ninja & unlimited spawn set for my samu. So what your main point says that? Please dont make something that can lock this thread because this is useful thread. Edit: Please see my other thread about samu & magic ninja. I not only play as ench. I have many portion at my ench because she is my highest char now and I cant play iruna too much due to irl reason Pm me for more chat, because this is out of topic
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Post by Done~with~forums on Mar 27, 2018 6:30:30 GMT
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Post by Makina Yuki on Mar 27, 2018 6:31:56 GMT
yungelita I dont play iruna to become best damager or most op char ever. I just play because iruna has many things to explore. So why we only limited only to best gear etc. In fact, I found gram & faw hidden because my research in game.
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Post by Makina Yuki on Mar 27, 2018 6:45:17 GMT
yungelita Yep, If I cant farm something with my ench I use my other char. Sorry for my missunderstand. I usually party farm with my sk too and also my mins which died long time ago qwq Anyway, I still on way to make guide about enchanter cheap gear with reasonable damage. Also my main reason to make video is to help other ench to leveling & choosing their gear. If you want more chat, we can continue this in personal massage because I think our conversation is out of topic from this thread.
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Jophes
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Post by Jophes on Mar 27, 2018 7:17:39 GMT
blazer Yikes... but I'm glad ya did what ya did for the Paladins o.o/ Done~with~forums I mean it's fine..., I guess if it works..., if people want to play as an acting tank when playing with friends and such. But in threads like this where Asobimo is clearly making changes so that jobs have a general set role as to how he designed certain jobs to play in parties, it would only be fitting for everyone to start imagining new party setups with actual tanks, actual dps, actual support within this setup. Like it's cool that your servant can resist dmg and all but I feel like that could be better suited when you help a lowbie with mq or something. Servants I'm sure have a great deal more potential to farming than being a tank and that's the main purpose of this thread I think.
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Post by Done~with~forums on Mar 27, 2018 7:21:21 GMT
blazer Yikes... but I'm glad ya did what ya did for the Paladins o.o/ Done~with~forums I mean it's fine..., I guess if it works..., if people want to play as an acting tank when playing with friends and such. But in threads like this where Asobimo is clearly making changes so that jobs have a general set role as to how he designed certain jobs to play in parties, it would only be fitting for everyone to start imagining new party setups with actual tanks, actual dps, actual support within this setup. Like it's cool that your servant can resist dmg and all but I feel like that could be better suited when you help a lowbie with mq or something. Servants I'm sure have a great deal more potential to farming than being a tank and that's the main purpose of this thread I think. servant as is support i know that and as for me tanking i have been doing it even in new mq and when farming .-. When i can get a pt that is i 100% know pally is tank servant is support but i dobt like limits other players put on me
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Post by blazer on Mar 27, 2018 12:01:19 GMT
Wanna try again not as a challenge it's been a while i played my paladin i will only use skills upto 260 for the balance x
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Post by Ryukengan on Mar 27, 2018 13:50:12 GMT
Take your virtual measuring contest to private messages before I start handing out warnings, thank you Done~with~forums blazer Edit: Added 18th class balance post, they said they would buff Soul Connect but it's not mentioned in the notes. So either they forgot to put it in the notes, they will buff it at a later point, or I translated this part of the notes wrong.
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Post by juice on Mar 29, 2018 5:48:56 GMT
Anyone has been able to test the new adjustments?
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Post by NightBreeze on Mar 29, 2018 8:34:33 GMT
Anyone has been able to test the new adjustments? Servant's Calm Tea Party now gives +15% MATK, Mad Tea Party idk, I assume also +15% ATK. Regarding gladiator, RaffTheDuck posted some test results before in this thread, maybe he could test again to judge the improvements.
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