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Post by cerulain on Sept 14, 2017 12:44:11 GMT
So, I returned a couple of months ago and heard about the 3 months of 1000% exp over the Christmas just gone, seperated into 3 events of 3 weeks long and it made me question.. why? Why was this suggested and how was it a good idea? Just my personal view.. I understand the addition of border raids, that's good - it gets new players to a respectable level and they can learn whilst gaining decent levels weekly for that. However, these exp events are rediculous.. there's so many people begging for levels, players 200+ with almost no gear. Why and how is/was this a good idea? I understand old players enjoying it with their alts, but if it was a way to bring new players in and keep people interested, I believe it's done the opposite. The community, i feel, is getting worse with all these insane ways of gaining exp. even 300+ doesn't seem like a challenge with mq doing 80% of it for you.
But that's just my opinion, feel free to share yours.
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Eaysley
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Post by Eaysley on Sept 14, 2017 14:19:41 GMT
Retention
Older players make and explore new classes
Casual players spend more time using the app
It's an awesome idea. Lots of newbies reach high level fast and they get to build characters easier compared to eons ago.
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Post by cerulain on Sept 14, 2017 14:52:49 GMT
Retention Older players make and explore new classes Casual players spend more time using the app It's an awesome idea. Lots of newbies reach high level fast and they get to build characters easier compared to eons ago. But it ruins the experience for new players, no? I'm sure most would prefer to learn about the game rather than fly their way up to 260, find the game too easy and quit. Or if they stay, they damage the experience for older players looking for pt's because they have awful gear. But I see your reasoning. I may be the only one who believes it's damaging to Iruna, but eh. |
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Makina Yuki
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Post by Makina Yuki on Sept 14, 2017 15:48:30 GMT
Grinding takes a lot of time even with 1000% exp (assuming you are not boosted). Iruna has enermous content and if new player still grind exp without this event like old iruna they will not able catch up lastest content so I think this event isnt bad as long not they not distrub your grinding time ._.
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Fatima
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Post by Fatima on Sept 14, 2017 16:43:54 GMT
I kinda share cerulain thoughts about this kind of events. For old players like me at first seems unfair because on my day I had to grind all the way up with no exp bonuses at all, so I think all my hard grinding goes to waste in some way, nevertheless, one thing that new players won't get as easily as level exp is gaming experience. This is the part where my time spent grinding is rewarded, so I'm ok with the event.
Also, I take advantage of these events as follows:
Since players are so desperately trying to gain lv, they all will tend to concentrate in specific, mainstream maps in order to do so. So this is a good chance to grind or farm in other spots to your heart's content because these spots will likely be empty, you know, less competition less hackers around disturbing your happy grinding.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2017 16:59:34 GMT
Its a shortcut for dumbness for new players.
On the other hand, its the shortcut for older players to experience classes that they know already but do not have the actual class yet.
Whether there's an event or not, Being noob is a choice.
(To elaborate this thing I've mentioned above, with or without +1000% exp. The usage of word "Plss" reamains the same. As if it is an SEO.)
It is hard to level? Yes ofcourse it is, what do players expect? reach 355 in a week? Better play Barbie dress up then.
I only began using tickets when I capped my gladiator @310 before without tickets. Whats the secret? Free books, 5 star, patience, and your time bonus if you use tickets.
I'm the player who grasp the things around me first once I got it I'll rush through greatness and go back to things that I left during early times.
Now, for the most common cancer players right now is they will rush things and once they reach the pinnacle theres no other way for them to go back anymore.
As they think that they've got everything already where in fact they know nothing at all.
As an example, alot of people keep asking questions worst is it id repeatedly, where in their current progress I believe that they supposed to know it already.
Not saying they have to be know it all brat and actually asking question is another smart way to learn. Yes, somewhat contradicts each statement.
But, atleast they should know these things already, and not keep asking repeatedly.
Unless they have problems in familiarizing things then thats a consideration.
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Post by Owe on Sept 14, 2017 19:00:09 GMT
I might be kind of an anomaly but I make a different character and build almost every other month lol and the #1 most tiring thing about it isn't farming or buying new equips (but it can be lel), but instead leveling and especially doing the mq because it's the same thing over and over and over again (I've had to have gone through chapter 3 about 40 times now)
That being said I love the 1000% exp event for the fact that now Alts are "easy" to make at lv 300 which would've taken forever and a day to do without it lol but trust me it's still a grind either way just the 1000% expedites the process
As for newbs... well you can get to 260 with the mq anyways so to me that's not an issue but I'd rather someone get to 260 by mob fighting and learning party play than by them following like 2 d**kheads who just want to level their guild...
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Shiruyui
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Post by Shiruyui on Sept 14, 2017 19:11:52 GMT
I kinda agree with the post creator.
I was on my bishop in forgotten cave map, spamming nemesis & often rebuff (living statue farm).
A lvl 260 came and asked me if I was a bishop.
Dude, it's nemesis. Big white flash. I'm using a cane.
This should be obvious/general basic knowledge.
That's one downside. However, as the previous members mentionned, there's good sides such as creating alts easily. There's good ans bad sides, just gotta hope there's more good effects than bad ones.
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Yazmat
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Post by Yazmat on Sept 14, 2017 19:40:51 GMT
Ok guys... just think of it as Lv261 = Lv1 and Lv355 = Lv95. And whatever is lower than 261 is in tutorial mode...
YAY am Lv90!
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Post by Famine on Sept 14, 2017 20:23:52 GMT
Ok guys... just think of it as Lv261 = Lv1 and Lv355 = Lv95. And whatever is lower than 261 is in tutorial mode... YAY am Lv90! This is exactly why I laughed when people criticized Eaysley 's guide for spina for low lvls. "This isn't for low lvls" Yes, yes it absolutely is, It says under 260, that is low lvl. |
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Post by cerulain on Sept 14, 2017 20:40:35 GMT
Ok guys... just think of it as Lv261 = Lv1 and Lv355 = Lv95. And whatever is lower than 261 is in tutorial mode... YAY am Lv90! This is exactly why I laughed when people criticized Eaysley 's guide for spina for low lvls. "This isn't for low lvls" Yes, yes it absolutely is, It says under 260, that is low lvl. People now consider 260 low lvl? Really goes to show how damaging Iruna is when the cap is only 95/100 levels higher than that, and I've seen people grind 260-355, or whatever the cap is, pretty quick. People shouldn't consider 260 as a "low level" purely because of exp events and mq. By that point, you should know most things about Iruna because of the significance of being that high up, especially before the events themselves. |
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Post by Famine on Sept 14, 2017 20:53:23 GMT
This is exactly why I laughed when people criticized Eaysley 's guide for spina for low lvls. "This isn't for low lvls" Yes, yes it absolutely is, It says under 260, that is low lvl. People now consider 260 low lvl? Really goes to show how damaging Iruna is when the cap is only 95/100 levels higher than that, and I've seen people grind 260-355, or whatever the cap is, pretty quick. People shouldn't consider 260 as a "low level" purely because of exp events and mq. By that point, you should know most things about Iruna because of the significance of being that high up, especially before the events themselves. I have for the entire life of this game considered low lvl to be where mq stops. I've been here since Windhole was newest dungeon and mq didn't do anything. |
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♪Sumire
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Post by ♪Sumire on Sept 14, 2017 20:59:41 GMT
yeah the downside is that we have too many new players hitting 260 with no mq - but no idea how the class they pick works , worse they don't even know this forum exists xD
(but mostly its just me being sour cause I spent 2 yrs to make my samu main reach 300 and I just saw ppl reaching the same lvl in just a week like seriously @_@ --- well look at the good side at least I managed to make 2 high lvl acc in 2 weeks too , 2nd/3rd exp 1k event , since I don't like begging I just made 1 alt each every exp 1k event and just grind the hell out --there's alot of mobs aside the exp mobs that gives decent exp and u can kill in a few hits no competition xD)
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Yazmat
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Post by Yazmat on Sept 14, 2017 21:16:12 GMT
People now consider 260 low lvl? Really goes to show how damaging Iruna is when the cap is only 95/100 levels higher than that, and I've seen people grind 260-355, or whatever the cap is, pretty quick. People shouldn't consider 260 as a "low level" purely because of exp events and mq. By that point, you should know most things about Iruna because of the significance of being that high up, especially before the events themselves. I have for the entire life of this game considered low lvl to be where mq stops. I've been here since Windhole was newest dungeon and mq didn't do anything. Means Lv300 now is low level yay! |
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Krisu
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Post by Krisu on Sept 14, 2017 21:20:08 GMT
Let's be honest here... Who in the world would boost a newb(as in completely new, no high Lvl friends and such) to 260 for free? Most people go to 1-120 or maybe 140 and that's it. The hardcore begging begins and people start asking to mp heal at all sorts of levels. If you don't got mp heal, the next best thing is 5m/stk at 3i, which a Newb should not be able to afford(unless his begging has paid off), and I started a magic ninja and paid roughly 40m for 120-199. That's pretty good considering people were selling 1-261 for 300m. My magic ninja doesn't have that good gear(eventail no up, boo ns, taenia, and spec slot mezza), but with clones I'm able to solo mq(just 3 works) and hopefully get to 300 which is not likely I assume?
But the point is most newbs don't get to 260. Of course it starts tumors everywhere but it's not your responsibility to help them, if they are begging you don't need to help. Also people can lack knowledge of classes if they don't go for it. I don't know servant, ministrel, samurai, and some bishop and sniper skills because I never went for them or got far enough. It's gonna be really hard to educate all the people of iruna so let the dumb stay dumb.
Also I'd say the problem isn't the new players, it's the beggars teaching the new players to beg for stuff.
I guess I just wanted to write something lol
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