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Post by blazer on Aug 18, 2017 4:22:25 GMT
Does adding wyn on weopen, armour,add and spec procure 4 additional damage or does it increase the chance of procuring 1 additional damage
Also if we use wyn and wol does there will be 2 additional damages?
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Post by Done~with~forums on Aug 18, 2017 4:50:13 GMT
If u use 4 wyn it will proc all 4 if u use 3 wyn 1 wol it will proc 3 wyn auto 1 wol auto
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Post by nic123 on Aug 18, 2017 4:53:24 GMT
Had the same question, so wyn is like veleno? And it will look like 15k dmg 14.7k additional physical 14.7k additional physical 14.7k additional physical If u use 3 wyn? I only have 1 wyn and 1 wol was gonna change dajar in ira for wyn but didnt know it it stacked
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Post by Makina Yuki on Aug 18, 2017 4:57:11 GMT
I think wyn crysta mechanic almost same with any magic atk chance xtal. If you had 4 (in Weapon, armor, add gear, and spec), you can procs all 4 wyn in one atk.
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Post by pingrek on Aug 18, 2017 5:02:56 GMT
Yes if you have a wyn in each piece of equipment there is a chance of all four proc at same time so your battle log could look like 12k damage 10k additional 10k additional 10k additional 10k additional
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Post by nic123 on Aug 18, 2017 11:36:37 GMT
Ok lovely, i can replace iras dajarte with a wyn^^
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Post by blazer on Aug 18, 2017 14:53:42 GMT
i have 2 wyn and 1 wol at the moment..but the maximum additional damage am getting is only 2.does wols additional damage wont work with wyn since it's description is twice attack chance.so when wyn do the second attack wol won't procure?i don't know just wondering.
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Post by 🔷Raichant🔷 on Aug 18, 2017 15:35:00 GMT
i have 2 wyn and 1 wol at the moment..but the maximum additional damage am getting is only 2.does wols additional damage wont work with wyn since it's description is twice attack chance.so when wyn do the second attack wol won't procure?i don't know just wondering. If u have poor autoskill% on your equipment,the change you will see all your wyn and wol proc together is like 1/100 change by atk <_<
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2017 17:16:18 GMT
Aside from poor autoskill%. I assume poor HIT or accuracy% also might affect additional damage if you are no dex build. I did an experiment using spec Ring of rush wyn vs Atleta ring wyn. Using both under same autoskill% set. It seem when using atleta ring wyn(my HIT around 300+) I can see more additional damage proc (correction: more additional hits land )compare to using Ring of Rush wyn (HIT around 70). But if you are dex build then you just need to improve autoskill
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Post by blazer on Aug 18, 2017 17:59:06 GMT
i have used add barbarotita it has accuracy-15% does it the reason for not procuring wyn in the add owo
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Post by asteg on Aug 18, 2017 19:26:45 GMT
Once upon a time there was a man who created the nipple build, using 3 gears that have triple attack chance he hoped to one day....yeah it didn't work out, but long story short every auto atk xtal/ stat has thr same chance to proc on a single attack, be it 3 wys 1 raguel, 1 gewalt,1efnar,1 levy, 1 veleno.. although every xtal has it's own proc rate so seeing all 2,3, or 4 autos proc at once is kinda low, which is why the nipple build didn't work...half a nipple doesn't do any good and a full nipple is hard to get
Also accuracy - won't effect ur autoskill rate, autoskills (by atk) only proc when ur hit lands, lower hit rate means u won't hit as often so ur window of being able to proc stuff gets lower... The life hack for that is crt rate is you chance to land a crit hit and is NOT influenced by ur hit stat, so if u have enough crt you'll land a crt hit 100% of the time...and since autoskilld proc on both ur Norm white atks and ur crt orange attacks.... Boiled down that means u can have 1 hit rate and 100 crt rate and you'll always hit crt atk
Just throwing it out there in case new ppls read 0.0)7 also do raids
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2017 1:49:04 GMT
i have used add barbarotita it has accuracy-15% does it the reason for not procuring wyn in the add owo As much as I understand to procure add damage require certain amount of autoskill%. The higher the autoskill% the better the proc rate. While in my earlier post I did mention that I assume -accuracy%/HIT might affect or slightly affect additional damage landing hit. I also mention that in my early post that I did experiment on 0 DEX build and that was my minstrel. However I did an experiment too on my other character with DEX build which as Samurai as a comparison. So I like to elaborate more why I assume -accuracy/HIT might/slightly affect additional damage if you are no DEX build So this are the stats and equipment that i use for experiment Class.Lv | Minstrel Lv.350 | Samurai Lv.280 | Stats | Str=Agi=Crit400/Vit100 | Str=Agi=Dex340 | Equipments | Ceduro Wyn Ira Re Up Wyn Huge Cherry Blossom Raton Autoskill 5 | Legacy of Will II Wyn Ira Re Up Wyn Huge Cherry Blossom Raton Autoskill 5
| Al | 6 Purple 2 Red Vatendeth Halios Cheltil Sauro II Cordal | 6 Purple 2 Red Maelriel Halios Cheltil Sauro II Cordal | Accuracy | Without Spec: 359 With Atleta Ring Wyn: 252 With Ring of Rush Wyn: 78 | Without Spec:724 With Atleta Ring Wyn: 536 With Ring of Rush Wyn: 239
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Clearly my minstrel had better autoskill% due to Ceduro 10% autoskill while my samurai had better accuracy% due to DEX stat and Legacy of Will II 15% accuracy. However after many run on Baum Warrior, my minstrel fail to at least constantly land 3 additional damage hits when using RoRs Wyn but that not the case for my Samurai who less 10% autoskill than my minstrel. While when my minstrel on Atleta Ring Wyn i can see more successfull land 3 additional damage hits. The experiment I did not only limited to autoskill% accuracy% but also crit rate% to see if accuracy%/HIT does affect additional hit success Samurai without absolute clarity still can land 3 additional hits despite RoR horrible DEX&accuracy decrease while my minstrel with daiginjo and RoR( to further reduce crit rate) don't even manage to do the same thing despite white/normal damage often hits. So that all from my experiment. I might be wrong all a long. just want to share my experience on such things. You might need at least 300+ hit and higher autoskill to see more additional damage land properly.
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Post by asteg on Aug 19, 2017 5:00:20 GMT
Did you use dual blow at all? It seems to make autoskill proc sorta wonky
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Post by ♪Sumire on Aug 19, 2017 8:48:08 GMT
hmm as a samurai I also use wyn(regret buying this xtal but oh well) my source of auto skill% is IRA reup and all purple Apos with cordal All
with my test gears masamune shin IRA reup wol nasturtium ns and showy bangle ns
I can hit 4 additional autos for around 3 of 5 hits or if in 10 hits 5-7 out of 10 (really unstable) wyns auto rate sometimes is low compared to the other auto dmg (nasturtium and showy procs 4 of 5 hits together)
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Post by asteg on Aug 19, 2017 23:43:16 GMT
I did aroundight,Nast, and showy all ns and I don't think I ever got 3 to proc on one hit
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