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Post by blazer on Aug 13, 2017 15:19:50 GMT
isn't this build is the best considering we get decent damage, magic defence and mp pool after maxing agi and crt ofcourse.but i haven't seen anyone suggesting this build owo
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Post by pingrek on Aug 13, 2017 16:17:09 GMT
isn't this build is the best considering we get decent damage, magic defence and mp pool after maxing agi and crt ofcourse.but i haven't seen anyone suggesting this build owo The reason why I don't think people recommend it is that there's not quite enough possible stat points to pull it off and make it worth it, so it's better to just go for one or the other unless you go geo spam and cut agi out of the equation completely |
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Post by blazer on Aug 13, 2017 16:20:16 GMT
isn't this build is the best considering we get decent damage, magic defence and mp pool after maxing agi and crt ofcourse.but i haven't seen anyone suggesting this build owo The reason why I don't think people recommend it is that there's not quite enough possible stat points to pull it off and make it worth it, so it's better to just go for one or the other unless you go geo spam and cut agi out of the equation completely ofcourse maxing str give the highest damage where as people using int as their stat instead of maxing it fill both half . |
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Post by pingrek on Aug 13, 2017 16:31:10 GMT
The reason why I don't think people recommend it is that there's not quite enough possible stat points to pull it off and make it worth it, so it's better to just go for one or the other unless you go geo spam and cut agi out of the equation completely ofcourse maxing str give the highest damage where as people using int as their stat instead of maxing it fill both half . Actually most monk I've seen who use int max it and don't touch str unless they restat to see how they like it, the only time I've seen a combo of int and str is in geo spam build which doesn't have agi so they can focus on int crt and str as main stats since the most delay int give geo is -3 sec and 360 so some may only go up to that or some max it as well as str and crt |
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Post by rahovart on Aug 13, 2017 22:38:31 GMT
It's technically the hybrid build. My monk is kinda like this, int and str aren't equal but both up there.
My build
Str/agi full over cap
Int 240
Crt 260
Vit 40
It's a build that definitely requires capped off stats because you'll nfeed all the stat points you can get. However I can auto good and geo spam with this build so it's fun and flexible. I keep my str/agi topped off and the rest of my stat points get put into crt now.
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Post by blazer on Aug 13, 2017 23:55:32 GMT
It's technically the hybrid build. My monk is kinda like this, int and str aren't equal but both up there. My build Str/agi full over cap Int 240 Crt 260 Vit 40 It's a build that definitely requires capped off stats because you'll nfeed all the stat points you can get. However I can auto good and geo spam with this build so it's fun and flexible. I keep my str/agi topped off and the rest of my stat points get put into crt now. you can spam geo? |
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Post by 'AhSaN' on Aug 14, 2017 5:44:18 GMT
It's technically the hybrid build. My monk is kinda like this, int and str aren't equal but both up there. My build Str/agi full over cap Int 240 Crt 260 Vit 40 It's a build that definitely requires capped off stats because you'll nfeed all the stat points you can get. However I can auto good and geo spam with this build so it's fun and flexible. I keep my str/agi topped off and the rest of my stat points get put into crt now. you can spam geo? Spamming Geo needs a total of -8 second skill delay according to @ewpeople and i'm not counting any - Skill Delay. |
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Post by 'AhSaN' on Aug 14, 2017 5:51:01 GMT
A little opinion of mine about this topic, I don't think anybody will be able to make a AGI CRT STR=INT Monk. Even If that can be, you'll be lacking on most of the stuffs. Like you'll need atleast 350 AGI to be in the safe zone for not getting hit by most of the monsters. But if you do so, then you'll have problems distributing stat points on STR or INT. I don't know how many stat points will you get by Maxing all Apostolia Levels, but I don't think it's possible. I think you should focus on just one. I use : STR = 356 INT = 120 (Geo) AGI = 350+ CRT = 350+ With INT 120 I can just get a -1second skill delay for my Geo. I still need to manage -7second skill delay to spam geo. (Currently spamming Geo every 2second). So I think you should just focus on One. STR or INT. There are many people who can tell you about the merits and demerits of it. Maybe you can ask pingrek? |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2017 6:49:41 GMT
blazer At Lv296 with most apos levels at 115, I have 371 AGI, 371 CRT, 100 VIT, 280 INT. My plan is to get INT to 360, then continue with AGI CRT. Any excess goes to STR, tho I'll probably want to get tougher so I might add more VIT. My plan has always been to auto and spam. I'm more of an INT type, but might help since I also plan on adding STR o3o
Side note: 'AhSaN' you quit again o.o?
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Post by blazer on Aug 14, 2017 6:58:26 GMT
blazer At Lv296 with most apos levels at 115, I have 371 AGI, 371 CRT, 100 VIT, 280 INT. My plan is to get INT to 360, then continue with AGI CRT. Any excess goes to STR, tho I'll probably want to get tougher so I might add more VIT. My plan has always been to auto and spam. I'm more of an INT type, but might help since I also plan on adding STR o3o
Side note: 'AhSaN' you quit again o.o? so what are the advantages of int.does chakra boost increase that much atk?if it's for mp and mdef i think around 256 will be more than enough.and for atk won't str better than int so won't we adding str instead of int once our mp and mdef needs are satisfied.or is there any other advantages of adding int? |
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Post by 'AhSaN' on Aug 14, 2017 7:22:01 GMT
blazer At Lv296 with most apos levels at 115, I have 371 AGI, 371 CRT, 100 VIT, 280 INT. My plan is to get INT to 360, then continue with AGI CRT. Any excess goes to STR, tho I'll probably want to get tougher so I might add more VIT. My plan has always been to auto and spam. I'm more of an INT type, but might help since I also plan on adding STR o3o
Side note: 'AhSaN' you quit again o.o? Yeah xD. Uninstalled Iruna untill my Exam is over (Curse you exam! :/) Then I'll reinstall Iruna and delete the [Quit Iruna] name from my profile name xD Just added it so the people who messages me would not get worried/annoyed that why I do not reply to their message fast. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2017 7:24:21 GMT
blazer The main reason I added INT is to make a more flexible build. Adding INT, other than the stuff you mentioned, reduces Geo Breaker's skill delay by -1sec every 120 points. This caps at -3sec sd at 360 INT, which means that I only need -5sec sd more to spam Geo every second. This is very useful vs bosses that hate auto attack builds such as Kagan and Thothras.
Another reason for INT is the increased Heal. While it may not be as good as a Bishop's or a Servant's heal, if you're the only survivor after the boss you're fighting enters berserk mode, you might as well get a Heal set ready to get them (especially the tank) back on their feet ASAP. Higher heals also let you go all out on your damage set and just heal when necessary. It would be pretty hard to recover your HP via D.Claw/HCB if you're doing mediocre damage to certain bosses such as Raton (raid), so in cases like that, INT is useful.
As for damage, so far, INT is quite inferior to STR as a Claw Monk since STR adds 2 ATK per point, while INT only adds roughly 1.4 ATK per point with Chakra Lv4. I don't read JP blogs, so I don't know whether or not we're getting Chakra Lv5, but if we were, it should make for a good INT investment.
Then again, I might just want to try use magic autoskills on my Monk XD fun logic
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Post by blazer on Aug 14, 2017 7:31:48 GMT
blazer The main reason I added INT is to make a more flexible build. Adding INT, other than the stuff you mentioned, reduces Geo Breaker's skill delay by -1sec every 120 points. This caps at -3sec sd at 360 INT, which means that I only need -5sec sd more to spam Geo every second. This is very useful vs bosses that hate auto attack builds such as Kagan and Thothras.
Another reason for INT is the increased Heal. While it may not be as good as a Bishop's or a Servant's heal, if you're the only survivor after the boss you're fighting enters berserk mode, you might as well get a Heal set ready to get them (especially the tank) back on their feet ASAP. Higher heals also let you go all out on your damage set and just heal when necessary. It would be pretty hard to recover your HP via D.Claw/HCB if you're doing mediocre damage to certain bosses such as Raton (raid), so in cases like that, INT is useful.
As for damage, so far, INT is quite inferior to STR as a Claw Monk since STR adds 2 ATK per point, while INT only adds roughly 1.4 ATK per point with Chakra Lv4. I don't read JP blogs, so I don't know whether or not we're getting Chakra Lv5, but if we were, it should make for a good INT investment.
Then again, I might just want to try use magic autoskills on my Monk XD fun logic oh there is 1.4atk per int that's not bad then xx |
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Post by 'AhSaN' on Aug 14, 2017 7:40:13 GMT
Merits
INT
+ Lv.4 Chakra ATK increase 1.4 each INT
+ Better MDEF
+ Better Skill Delay on Geo
+ Bigger heal than Str builds (But not that good for me)
+ Can use Magic Autoskills for FUN.
+ Best One for soloing
+ Can be accepted in party if you have a Geo Set. But Geo Damage is very low and that might be a kick out from the "FAST-FAST-FAAST!! Parties"
STR
+ The Highest ATK increasing stat for Monk so far. Adds 2 ATK each STR. Meaning, the highest damage stat for a Claw Monk.
+ STR is mainly used for just damaging. In parties it is very helpful. Especially with STR you will deal good damage with Autoskill and thus more chance of being accepted in party and reaching goals faster
+ Does have a little increase in Melee Resistance (According to Spirit in Ameblo Blog)
+ Higher Damage with Physical Autoskills = Better accepted in Parties
Demerits :
INT
- The Heal is not enough for most people. It's because Throwing gives more Heal than Claw. So with claws you will never be able to do as heal as a throw user with same stats. But you can change to a heal set using Pharases.
STR
- Only Cannon. Means only be the best Attacker stat. So you are vulnerable to bosses that hits hard. (But can be avoided using LGE)
- Cannot spam Geo.
- Need to form parties by own because theres not enough Autoskill Str Monk users.
Conclusion : Pick whats the best for you.
But I wrote the post as a STR Monk. I do have a little experience as a INT monk but not enough. (So Correct me if i'm wrong please!)
Personally I like STR because it hits the most hard at higher levels and the Finishing Blow's damage is very high with it.
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Post by batuo on Sept 1, 2017 15:28:24 GMT
I have a pure auto atk monk and his stats are perfectly tuned for my playstyle
Lv.283
Str 224
Int 100
Vit 70
Agi 300
Crt 300
I use
Ceduro2+9 grapagos
Ira reup+8 iniliba
Barb reup+8 Raton
Ror ns
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